Protein powders

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Sad but true. Amazing how they get

away with hiding all that stuff. No wonder we have problems with our

health.

Allyn

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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:24

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Protein

powders

Does it list the spices or does it just say

" spices " . If the ingredients say " spices " it is often

contaminated with MSG.

Irene

At 12:10 AM 7/6/2006, you wrote:

> If one can afford

organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food

> without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat

expensive.

>

> I don't know about protein powders because they are not the whole food,

and

> whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole food one

can

> get, I suspect the better off one is.

>

> Skipper

>

A really cheap source of sausage is, surprisingly, *Penzy's*.

For not very much, you can buy their " sausage seasoning " , which comes

in

several different flavors. I get Italian. Add 1T to 1lb of hamburger, mix

it up, form into some shape or another, and bake. Voila! Italian sausage.

(if you stuff it into a skin, it looks more " sausagelike " , but my

family actually prefers meatballs and when I DID used to buy Italian

sausage, I had to take it out of the skin before baking it).

The Penzy's only has salt and spices in it. No MSG or nitrates.

It tastes wonderful.

As for " real beef " ... it doesn't have to be all that expensive

either. Mine is very cheap. It mainly is an issue of buying in bulk,

which takes planning and likely a freezer. But even if you just

buy Costco hamburger, you are still better off than most

of the junk food out there.

-- Heidi

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My info agrees with Skipper. I had metabolic typing done through a

consultant associated with the Wolcott and Fahey book (The Metabolic

Typing Diet). I was told eggs are ok for protein types to eat but

not a substitute for high purine meats that a protein type should

include in every meal (since eggs are low purine).

Sharon

>

> Hi Skipper,

>

> According to Dr. Mercola's book, TOTAL HEALTH COOKBOOK &

PRGORAM, eggs are highly recommended for Protein Types.

>

> What is your source for your information?

>

> Love,

> Pamela

>

> Skipper Beers <lsb149@...>

wrote:

> I've tried raw eggs. I don't know how familiar you are with

Mercola's

> website, but he talks about the right type of diet for your

body. (Protein

> type, carb type, or mixed.) Anyways, on the questionare I came

out as a

> protein type, and supposedly we don't do as well on eggs, and I

always

> wondered why I didn't like them better. Also explained why I

like the dark

> meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is

from iron.)

> MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of

flavor and

> quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full.

>

> Skipper

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Also, even if MSG isn't added, it still be in processed foods as it

is created by processing techniques. Don't have a reference for this

but learned at the latest WAP conference. I would be suspicious of

any protein powders, but particularly those that use any heat in

processing.

Sharon

>

> Does it list the spices or does it just say " spices " . If the

ingredients

> say " spices " it is often contaminated with MSG.

> Irene

>

>

> At 12:10 AM 7/6/2006, you wrote:

>

>

> > > If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source?

Real food

> > > without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be

somewhat

> > expensive.

> > >

> > > I don't know about protein powders because they are not the

whole food,

> > and

> > > whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole

food one

> > can

> > > get, I suspect the better off one is.

> > >

> > > Skipper

> > >

> >A really cheap source of sausage is, surprisingly, *Penzy's*.

> >

> >For not very much, you can buy their " sausage seasoning " , which

comes in

> >several different flavors. I get Italian. Add 1T to 1lb of

hamburger, mix

> >it up, form into some shape or another, and bake. Voila! Italian

sausage.

> >(if you stuff it into a skin, it looks more " sausagelike " , but my

> >family actually prefers meatballs and when I DID used to buy

Italian

> >sausage, I had to take it out of the skin before baking it).

> >

> >The Penzy's only has salt and spices in it. No MSG or nitrates.

> >It tastes wonderful.

> >

> >As for " real beef " ... it doesn't have to be all that expensive

> >either. Mine is very cheap. It mainly is an issue of buying in

bulk,

> >which takes planning and likely a freezer. But even if you just

> >buy Costco hamburger, you are still better off than most

> >of the junk food out there.

> >

> >-- Heidi

> >

> >

>

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>From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>Reply-iodine

><iodine >

>Subject: Re: Re: Protein powders

>Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:19:48 -0600

>

>Skipper,

>On the link you provided me earlier,

>http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/MetabolicTyping.html, it says that

>a

>high purine diet is recommended for fast oxidizers, and low purine for slow

>oxidizers.

>Could you be confusing high protein type with fast oxidizer type as far as

>the egg recommendation?

I don't think so. The protein type is the fast oxidizer. I need protein,

or I'm always hungry. My wife can eat a candy bar and have energy for hours

and hours. She only needs to eat a small amount at meals. She's a slow

oxidizer and a carb type. Which kind of means she can get energy for quite

a long time from a little food. (This also means more trouble losing weight

unless watching foods real carefully.)

Whereas some protein types might like eggs, they are low in purines, so

they're not our best food. We need some purines with every meal to be

happy, and eggs don't do it. The Metabolic Type Diet isn't gospel. It's

an interesting concept, and it helped me understand a few things.

Skipper

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>From: Linn <linnmiller@...>

> I avoid sugar due to hypoglycemia.

Which many people believe is caused by low adrenals. Which also causes

people problems when starting thyroid meds. (Cortisol keeps blood sugar

from falling rapidly.)

> What's weird about the new cereals is that

>they are still the same amount of carbs or close to it, so where's

>the benefit?

They can write " Reduced Sugar " on the box, which makes parents happy. Also,

the fiber content didn't change much when they went to " whole grain " , wonder

how they accomplished that.

Skipper

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>From: Pamela <calblonde1@...>

>

>Hi Skipper,

>

> Just because a food doesn't have purines doesn't mean it's not a good

>protein source for protein types.

>

> I just think it is very odd that Dr. Mercola would have eggs in his

> " most highly recommended protein " section for Protein Types in his book if

>they weren't.

Mercola is rather fond of raw eggs, I know.

Eggs do have protein as well as some important nutrients, including iodine

and B12. I'm thinking the point is that the protein types feel best when

they get adequate amounts of purines. Eggs alone will not satisfy the

purine requirement. Maybe why many people eat them with bacon or sausage.

Also, the goal of the book is to allow you to figure out what foods make you

feel best. All protein types are not going to have exactly the same

nutritional requirements.

Skipper

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>From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...>

>My info agrees with Skipper. I had metabolic typing done through a

>consultant associated with the Wolcott and Fahey book (The Metabolic

>Typing Diet). I was told eggs are ok for protein types to eat but

>not a substitute for high purine meats that a protein type should

>include in every meal (since eggs are low purine).

Yes. One may need the IODINE or the B12, or the phosphatidylserine (which

helps lower cortisol for those who are low) or the sulpher in the eggs. So,

even if the diet says they're not the best source, they may still be helpful

But, at least this protein type, isn't real satisfied when eating eggs

without what I consider " real " protein. (Maybe that's a bad choice of

words, but I think of them as neutral, but something good to add ham,

cheese, and peppers too when cooking.)

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Hi all, hope everyone is well and best wishes for a Happy New Year! I want to

thank you all for the support I have found on this forum. I have found it

invaluable on my journey for the past 3 yrs (wow can't believe its been that

long) and I'm sure going forward!

My question today is if anyone has any opinions on the best type of protein to

add to shakes. Every once in a while I still have an off day here and there and

I end up throwing up because of a particularly tight band day or just some food

that didn't agree with me. After that, I try to stick to liquids for a couple of

days. When I do, I want to add some protein to my liquids and wasn't sure which

is the best (both in taste and in quality). Any ideas?

Thanks, gail

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Happy New Year to you and everyone! Hope it's great for all of you!

Re protein powders - we are really ok without a lot of protein for a few days -

or weeks, even. The 50 -60 gm a day is a guideline,(some docs want 90-100 gm a

day, even for women) and does not have to be met every single day - average over

a week or so.

Our bodies store protein just fine and there is a good stored supply for the

days or couple weeks (like right after surgery) when we may not be able to get a

lot in.

Having said that, it's always good to TRY to meet a good day's intake, if

possible.

What we DON'T want, though, is one with more than about 30-40 gm of protein -

dumping that in all at once is very hard on the kidneys, especially for those

with diabetes. Thosde people almost always have some degree of kidney disease,

even if it does not show up on the basic kidney yests that general docs do. It

takes the more siphisticated kidney function tests to reveal this damage.

Some of the protein powders are also high in sugar and therefore high in

calories. That's a problem, when we are trying to lose weight.

For these reasons, I personally keep a few " high protein " Slim-Fasts around.

They have 15 gm of protein per can. 3-4 of these on a day you're on liquids will

meet the daily protein guideline fine.

But, really,almost ANY protein drink that tastes good is ok, imo, on these rare

days.

Sandy

>

> Hi all, hope everyone is well and best wishes for a Happy New Year! I want to

thank you all for the support I have found on this forum. I have found it

invaluable on my journey for the past 3 yrs (wow can't believe its been that

long) and I'm sure going forward!

>

> My question today is if anyone has any opinions on the best type of protein to

add to shakes. Every once in a while I still have an off day here and there and

I end up throwing up because of a particularly tight band day or just some food

that didn't agree with me. After that, I try to stick to liquids for a couple of

days. When I do, I want to add some protein to my liquids and wasn't sure which

is the best (both in taste and in quality). Any ideas?

>

> Thanks, gail

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

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//My question today is if anyone has any opinions on the best type of protein to

add to shakes. //

I'm not sure what you mean by " add to shakes " , but here goes:

I like the Syntrax Nectars. You used to be able to get a sample pack of all

their different flavors from the company for about a 1.00/packet. Their website

is www.si03.com. I don't remember their email addie, find it somewhere on the

site and inquire about samples.

The nectar USUALLY runs about 90 calories, 0 carbs, 0 sugars and 23 grams of

protein.

I don't think the flavor is strong enough for 8oz of water, so I use some kind

of extra flavor to mix with it. Crystal lite, instant coffee, powerade zero..

whatever seems appropriate.

in the RTD (ready to drink) I like Muscle Milk Light (vanilla creme or srawberry

creme.. the chocolate has an artificial taste to me). 100 calories, 5 carbs, 15

gram protein.

another RTD, EAS Carbadvantage (or maybe it's called carbcontrol..lol..if I get

up from the computer to go check the name, my kid will grab the chair) about 110

calories, 6 carbs, 15 protein. These don't taste as good as the Muscle Milk,

but are cheaper. I pour them into a glass and add a shot of sugar-free DaVinci

or Torani Syrup.

These are just the ones I've run across that I can tolerate. Like you, I don't

use them as a meal replacement unless I'm having issues with real food (rare) or

got out of bed too late to be able to take my time to eat breakfast.

I am trying an experiment right now of drinking some protein within the first 30

minutes to an hour after a workout. This is something I've read about over and

over again on sites about getting physically fit. I've also had a trainer

recommend the practice. It's supposed to help gain muscle or help muscle repair

itself, I'm not clear on the rationale. I don't know if it's working or not,

but have only been doing it about 10 days. Keep in mind, I exercise pretty

vigorously 5 days a week.. a minimum of 90 minutes and most days 2 or 3 hours.

I've been using the syntrax for this.

Hope this helps,

banded 03/09/09