Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Skipper, Nothing special, other than it's the way I take my flaxseed & coconut oil. I use a little bit of cottage cheese, yogurt (both organic), wheat germ, a few strawberries, half a banana, the flaxseed oil and some flax seeds thrown in along with the protein powder blended with ice. If I don't add the protein powder it's not enough protein compared to the carbs for me. I used to always eat eggs in the morning, but started using the protein shake a few months ago for breakfast. If I don't use it for breakfast, I usually have one for an afternoon snack with smaller amounts. Plus I'm not able to get to our Whole Foods store that often, so my choices of organic protein are limited to cheeses available at our local store. I was using Myloplex low carb protein shakes but then found out those aren't all they are cracked up to be either. I don't eat processed sugar at all and the Myloplex shakes were the only ones I could find that didn't have lots of sugar. LinnOn Jul 4, 2006, at 3:59 PM, lsb149 wrote:>> I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most > every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have > been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein > isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG. > Does anybody have any other recommendations?Since protein isn't particularly hard to get, is there a specialreason for wanting protein shakes?Skipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I am looking for it for breakfast, for myself and my daughter. My daughter is 9 and hypothyroid and I suspect adrenal fatigue, as she does NOT do well without protein. She won't eat eggs for breakfast..... so what else is there? She loves smoothies, so I'm looking for a protein powder to add to her smoothie to boost her protein for her, without soy, and she didn't like the why one that I like, that kills my bowels. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: Protein powders > > > > > I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most > > every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have > > been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein > > isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG. > > Does anybody have any other recommendations? > > Since protein isn't particularly hard to get, is there a special > reason for wanting protein shakes? > > Skipper > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 If you make a smoothie with milk or kefir and add a couple raw eggs ( you do not know they are in there, believe) you are getting plenty of protein and good protein. Allyn PRIORITY INVESTMENTS N' KOLLATERAL,INC. ALLYN FERRIS PRESIDENT AFERRIS@... 4548A WEST VILLAGE DR. TAMPA, FL 33624 tel: 813-961-1500 fax: 813-996-9571 mobile: 813-391-7965 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Ives Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:27 PM iodine Subject: Re: Re: Protein powders I am looking for it for breakfast, for myself and my daughter. My daughter is 9 and hypothyroid and I suspect adrenal fatigue, as she does NOT do well without protein. She won't eat eggs for breakfast..... so what else is there? She loves smoothies, so I'm looking for a protein powder to add to her smoothie to boost her protein for her, without soy, and she didn't like the why one that I like, that kills my bowels. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: Protein powders > > > > > I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most > > every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have > > been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein > > isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG. > > Does anybody have any other recommendations? > > Since protein isn't particularly hard to get, is there a special > reason for wanting protein shakes? > > Skipper > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Allyn, You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't the taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella. LinnOn Jul 4, 2006, at 6:52 PM, ALLYN FERRIS wrote:If you make a smoothie with milk or kefir and add a couple raw eggs ( you do not know they are in there, believe) you are getting plenty of protein and good protein.Allyn <image001.jpg>PRIORITY INVESTMENTS N' KOLLATERAL,INC.ALLYN FERRISPRESIDENTAFERRIS@...4548A WEST VILLAGE DR.TAMPA, FL 33624tel: 813-961-1500fax: 813-996-9571mobile: 813-391-7965 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 See if you can find some farm fresh eggs near you from cage-free hens. Chickens that are allowed to roam around, get fresh air, sunshine, fresh water, and not be crowded and cramped in cages or a barn, are not prone to salmonella infections. They have an immune system. Also, eggs that are washed are more prone to salmonella. When a chicken lays an egg, there is a natural coating on the egg that allows air into the egg (reason being so that the incubating chick can breathe, provided that there is a chick developing), but it keeps bacteria OUT of the porous shell. Once the egg is washed and scrubbed "clean", the pores of the egg shell allow bacteria to enter. THAT is when you get salmonella. Best, <--- who raises chickens and organic eggs in her wee little backyard)Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~ Allyn, You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't the taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella. Linn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 No, the research shows the chances of that are so slim that I don’t worry about it. I do get my eggs directly from two different farmers so I know they are really fresh and haven’t been sitting around some warehouse for a month. A lot of people who eat along the Weston Price way and the paleo diet eat quite a few raw eggs. They are actually better for you than cooked, not that I don’t eat cooked eggs as well. Allyn PRIORITY INVESTMENTS N' KOLLATERAL,INC. ALLYN FERRIS PRESIDENT AFERRIS@... 4548A WEST VILLAGE DR. TAMPA, FL 33624 tel: 813-961-1500 fax: 813-996-9571 mobile: 813-391-7965 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Linn Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:02 PM iodine Subject: Re: Re: Protein powders Allyn, You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't the taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella. Linn On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:52 PM, ALLYN FERRIS wrote: If you make a smoothie with milk or kefir and add a couple raw eggs ( you do not know they are in there, believe) you are getting plenty of protein and good protein. Allyn <image001.jpg> PRIORITY INVESTMENTS N' KOLLATERAL,INC. ALLYN FERRIS PRESIDENT AFERRIS@... 4548A WEST VILLAGE DR. TAMPA, FL 33624 tel: 813-961-1500 fax: 813-996-9571 mobile: 813-391-7965 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 yes, but you can get them without all that junk in a good health food store. Allyn Re: Re: Protein powders Bacon, sausage and cheese are LOADED with MSG, nitrites, nitrates, and allsorts of other nasties. We only eat them once in a blue moon, likeChristmas morning and that's it. She did have some organic uncured ham thismorning.Best,Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...thenyou probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~> Drink milk, you have protein. Then there's bacon, sausage cheese, andlots> of other choices. If she likes egg McMuffins, that's just a bun with egg,> sausage, and cheese. Kids seem to prefer the Mc's form even if you> don't allow them to eat there often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Applegate farms makes some pretty good products and also Han's. Irene At 09:19 AM 7/5/2006, you wrote: yes, but you can get them without all that junk in a good health food store. Allyn Re: Re: Protein powders Bacon, sausage and cheese are LOADED with MSG, nitrites, nitrates, and all sorts of other nasties. We only eat them once in a blue moon, like Christmas morning and that's it. She did have some organic uncured ham this morning. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ > Drink milk, you have protein. Then there's bacon, sausage cheese, and lots > of other choices. If she likes egg McMuffins, that's just a bun with egg, > sausage, and cheese. Kids seem to prefer the Mc's form even if you > don't allow them to eat there often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: Linn <linnmiller@...> >Skipper, > Nothing special, other than it's the way I take my flaxseed & coconut >oil. I use a little bit of cottage cheese, yogurt (both organic), wheat >germ, a few strawberries, half a banana, the flaxseed oil and some flax >seeds thrown in along with the protein powder blended with ice. If I >don't add the protein powder it's not enough protein compared to the carbs >for me. Flaxseed, cottage cheese, yogurt, and wheatgerm are all good sources of protein. If you need more, you could add raw eggs. Risk of salmonellas is actually quite low, plus since you have milk- like products if you added a drop or two of Lugol's Solution, you probably wouldn't be able to taste it. Milk really hides the taste. (But, my daughter could taste something in a school science class that only a tiny fraction of the population was supposed to be able to taste, and my wife and son have similar taste buds, which makes them annoying and finicky eaters, and I wouldn't be surprised if people like them could taste it even through the milk, even though I have added Lugol's to the gallon of milk a time or two with no complaint. My finicky son never seemed to notice. My wife rarely drinks milk. Actually, they are both lactose intolerant. On Lugol's and salmonella, not this is a remedy once you've taken it. To kill the bacteria in a drink, it's going to take a lot less, but should probably sit for a minute or two. http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine_2.html Lugol's Iodine Solution Cures Salmonella Poisoning WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU ARE ALLERGIC TO IODINE!! Here is a remedy that's been around quite a long time. It stops Salmonella poisoning immediately. Also used to treat Giardia. If you have gas and bloating and suspect Salmonella poisoning, here's the recipe: 1/2 glass of water. Add 6 drops of Lugol's Iodine Solution. Stir and drink in entirety. You will feel better within an hour. Take this 4x a day, after meals and at bedtime, for 3 days in a row, then as needed. ********************************* I take Lugol's when I believe I may have eaten something that was contaminated. That's a large dose of Lugol's mentioned above. I have used that much on occassion, but some people do have reactions, though I believe they are quite rare. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: " Ives " <mives@...> >Fascinating! Myself and my kids much prefer dark over white meat. Isn't it interesting how some people only like one or the other? In my experience, most people seem to think white meat is the best. (I've been reading posts about people complaining about liver so taking it in a supplement, allegedly it's very good for the protein eaters too, one of the best sources of purines. I don't find liver delicious, but I certainly don't mind it either, and it's one of the best sources of B12.) According to the Metabolic Type Diet that Mercola recommends (but I guess Weston Price Foundation doesn't), I think it has to do with a need for purines. Which are actually bad for people who don't need them. Of course, any diet should be taken with a grain of salt. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: " Ives " <mives@...> >Reply-iodine >Bacon, sausage and cheese are LOADED with MSG, nitrites, nitrates, and all >sorts of other nasties. We only eat them once in a blue moon, like >Christmas morning and that's it. She did have some organic uncured ham >this >morning. If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat expensive. I don't know about protein powders because they are not the whole food, and whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole food one can get, I suspect the better off one is. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I have found they are not that much more and if you find some really good coops in your area you can them almost at wholesale. I found great coops when I joined the local WAP group. I get organic produce, meats like bacon, etc., raw cheeses and just about anything your heart desires. I found a couple weeks ago when I was looking for ground beef for my dogs, (yes, I feed them a raw diet too), that in the grocery stores it was almost $3 a pound for ground beef and that is what I pay for grass fed straight from my Amish Farmer in PA who sends our orders down every other week here to Florida. Talk about great food. The eggs are huge and the yolks are orange, not yellow. I just love it. OH, and free range chickens in the grocery store here are around $3 a dozen and who know how long they have been hanging around and I pay $3.50 a dozen. When you consider the extreme difference in quality .50 a dozen or .50 a pound is nothing. Allyn Re: Re: Protein powders >From: " Ives" <mivesadelphia (DOT) net>>Reply-iodine >Bacon, sausage and cheese are LOADED with MSG, nitrites, nitrates, and all>sorts of other nasties. We only eat them once in a blue moon, like>Christmas morning and that's it. She did have some organic uncured ham >this>morning.If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat expensive.I don't know about protein powders because they are not the whole food, and whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole food one can get, I suspect the better off one is.Skipper__________________________________________________________Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: Linn <linnmiller@...> > I have to be careful as I can't use anything with >sugar in it. Why do you have to avoid sugar? Do they count xantham gum, in that 1 gram? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=xanthan+gum xanthan gum A natural gum of high molecular weight produced by culture fermentation of glucose and used as a stabilizer in commercial food preparation. ********* Other ingredients listed (complete list not just what I highlited) at - http://www.nicemuscle.com/isopure-81695.htm Aspartame Xanthan Gum ******************* Sugar's bad, but Nutrasweet OK? (Must be, after leaving the Reagan administration it was our loyal and faithful public servant, Rumsfeld that got it politically pushed through the FDA. He also owns the rights to Tamiflu through stock ownership in the company that holds the patent.) I tried to drink diet sodas when dieting a time or two, but I could tell after a day or two something was wrong with them. I no longer drink any kind of soda on a regular basis. If it's called " low sugar " it likely has Nutrasweet or Splenda (sucralose) as an ingredient, just like those new fangled reduced sugar cereals. They don't tell you they added Splenda, you have to look at the ingredients, they just tell you on the box they reduced sugar. The ingredients didn't mention Splenda, but Mercola's website had it as one of the items with Splenda. Some of them have lots of sugar added. I guess for >now I'll stick with the Isopure. (I'm such a wuss I don't think I could >bring myself to eat raw eggs.) It's hard at first, even though with the mixture you have the taste may not be that strong. I tried raw eggs and didn't find a benefit, but some people find them helpful. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I LOVE liver, and haven't had any in years because nobody else will eat it. Or shoudl I say, my hubby won't eat it, I don't know about my kids. I'm loathe to buy supermarket liver, due to all those animals go through. I'll have to make my husband save the liver this hunting season. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ (I've been > reading posts about people complaining about liver so taking it in a > supplement, allegedly it's very good for the protein eaters too, one of the > best sources of purines. I don't find liver delicious, but I certainly > don't mind it either, and it's one of the best sources of B12.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Yes, well, that's the problem. I do have a HFS with those things, but they are extremely cost-prohibitive for a family of four on a regular basis. They are a special occasion only. Of course, if I can get myself healthy enough again to work, then perhaps those things can be in the budget again <sigh>. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ > If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food > without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Is there some centralized list of co=ops? I have been unable to find anything in my area. There was an organic veggie farm coop years ago, but they stopped doing it, and were wicked expensive and you got lots of weird stuff that I had no idea what to do with, lol! Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ I have found they are not that much more and if you find some really good coops in your area you can them almost at wholesale. I found great coops when I joined the local WAP group. I get organic produce, meats like bacon, etc., raw cheeses and just about anything your heart desires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: " allyn ferris " <aferris7272@...> > >I have found they are not that much more and if you find some really good >coops in your area you can them almost at wholesale. >I found great coops when I joined the local WAP group. I get organic >produce, meats like bacon, etc., raw cheeses and just about anything your >heart desires. So, " Bacon, sausage and cheese are LOADED with MSG, nitrites, nitrates, and all sorts of other nasties " is not your real objection? Some people think the Biblical principals of pork are still true, and it shouldn't be eaten. Others simply find shakes easier than cooking. It is true, " real " eggs are different than what you normally get at the grocery store. I was interested to find they actually had some substance to them. Not as watery as regular grocery store eggs. Once again, protein is not hard enough to come by that one needs protein powder, unless they have a specific reason for desiring it. Not to mention they will have either processed sugar or worse yet, the sugar substitutes. My contention is if they isolate a part of the food, you get away from the whole food concept, and it's not going to be as healthy as the real, organic source. Just like on the site " The Doctor Within " it says that a potato can cure scurvy because it has the whole essence of Vitamin C in it, but a Vitamin C pill cannot. I haven't researched that to see if other sites agree with that statement, but it does make a kind of sense. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi Skipper, According to Dr. Mercola's book, TOTAL HEALTH COOKBOOK & PRGORAM, eggs are highly recommended for Protein Types. What is your source for your information? Love, PamelaSkipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: I've tried raw eggs. I don't know how familiar you are with Mercola's website, but he talks about the right type of diet for your body. (Protein type, carb type, or mixed.) Anyways, on the questionare I came out as a protein type, and supposedly we don't do as well on eggs, and I always wondered why I didn't like them better. Also explained why I like the dark meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is from iron.) MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of flavor and quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full. Skipper ur Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe New Message Search Find the message you want faster. Visit your group to try out the improved message search. Share feedback on the new changes to Groups Recent Activity 17 New Members 64 New Links Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >From: Pamela <calblonde1@...> >Hi Skipper, > > According to Dr. Mercola's book, TOTAL HEALTH COOKBOOK & PRGORAM, eggs >are highly recommended for Protein Types. > > What is your source for your information? I don't know. Or, at least I can't find the specific words right now. But, " The Metabolic Typing Diet " (sold on Mercola's website and recommended by him), it's not in the main food list of the protien type patients found on page 167. Also, we're supposed to need more purines, and that's part of how food is rated for us. http://www.biomedicalabs.com/gout_wellness_tips.htm " Purines are found in many animal products with the exception of low fat dairy goods and eggs. " ****************** Eggs simply don't have those purines we are supposed to need. That doesn't mean they'll harm us, and I can't quickly find the specific language, but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned. We don't have to avoid them entirely, they're just not that helpful for us. Which is probably why in the menus for the protein type, eggs are not the exclusive source of protein. On page 191, they are listed under dairy as a best source for carb eaters. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Skipper, On the link you provided me earlier, http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/MetabolicTyping.html, it says that a high purine diet is recommended for fast oxidizers, and low purine for slow oxidizers. Could you be confusing high protein type with fast oxidizer type as far as the egg recommendation? Lynn M. Re: Re: Protein powders > >From: Pamela <calblonde1@...> > > >Hi Skipper, > > > > According to Dr. Mercola's book, TOTAL HEALTH COOKBOOK & PRGORAM, eggs > >are highly recommended for Protein Types. > > > > What is your source for your information? > > > I don't know. Or, at least I can't find the specific words right now. But, > " The Metabolic Typing Diet " (sold on Mercola's website and recommended by > him), it's not in the main food list of the protien type patients found on > page 167. > > Also, we're supposed to need more purines, and that's part of how food is > rated for us. > > http://www.biomedicalabs.com/gout_wellness_tips.htm > " Purines are found in many animal products with the exception of low fat > dairy goods and eggs. " > ****************** > > Eggs simply don't have those purines we are supposed to need. That doesn't > mean they'll harm us, and I can't quickly find the specific language, but > I'm pretty sure it was mentioned. > > We don't have to avoid them entirely, they're just not that helpful for us. > Which is probably why in the menus for the protein type, eggs are not the > exclusive source of protein. > > On page 191, they are listed under dairy as a best source for carb eaters. > > Skipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I avoid sugar due to hypoglycemia. There is xantham gum in the powdered form I have but no Nutrasweet. I think only the chocolate form has any sugar in it. The vanilla has none, or at least it didn't used to. I've had this for a while, it's a large container. Have read all the info about Nutrasweet and Splenda so now Steevia is the only sweetener I use. Actually I'm still concerned about it being MSG, so I'm just going to avoid using it all. What's weird about the new cereals is that they are still the same amount of carbs or close to it, so where's the benefit? Linn On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Skipper Beers wrote: >> From: Linn <linnmiller@...> > >> > I have to be careful as I can't use anything with >> sugar in it. > > > Why do you have to avoid sugar? > > Do they count xantham gum, in that 1 gram? > > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=xanthan+gum > > xanthan gum > A natural gum of high molecular weight produced by culture > fermentation of > glucose and used as a stabilizer in commercial food preparation. > ********* > > Other ingredients listed (complete list not just what I highlited) > at - > > http://www.nicemuscle.com/isopure-81695.htm > Aspartame > Xanthan Gum > ******************* > > Sugar's bad, but Nutrasweet OK? (Must be, after leaving the Reagan > administration it was our loyal and faithful public servant, > Rumsfeld > that got it politically pushed through the FDA. He also owns the > rights to > Tamiflu through stock ownership in the company that holds the patent.) > > I tried to drink diet sodas when dieting a time or two, but I could > tell > after a day or two something was wrong with them. I no longer > drink any > kind of soda on a regular basis. > > If it's called " low sugar " it likely has Nutrasweet or Splenda > (sucralose) > as an ingredient, just like those new fangled reduced sugar > cereals. They > don't tell you they added Splenda, you have to look at the > ingredients, they > just tell you on the box they reduced sugar. The ingredients didn't > mention > Splenda, but Mercola's website had it as one of the items with > Splenda. > > > Some of them have lots of sugar added. I guess for >> now I'll stick with the Isopure. (I'm such a wuss I don't think >> I could >> bring myself to eat raw eggs.) > > It's hard at first, even though with the mixture you have the taste > may not > be that strong. I tried raw eggs and didn't find a benefit, but > some people > find them helpful. > > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 " Skipper Beers " <lsb149@...> wrote: > Also explained why I like the dark > meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is from >iron.) > MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of >flavor and > quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full. > > Skipper Dark meat also has more animal fat -> more cholesterol for making hormones. More fat, more satiety value also. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 > If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food > without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat expensive. > > I don't know about protein powders because they are not the whole food, and > whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole food one can > get, I suspect the better off one is. > > Skipper > A really cheap source of sausage is, surprisingly, *Penzy's*. For not very much, you can buy their " sausage seasoning " , which comes in several different flavors. I get Italian. Add 1T to 1lb of hamburger, mix it up, form into some shape or another, and bake. Voila! Italian sausage. (if you stuff it into a skin, it looks more " sausagelike " , but my family actually prefers meatballs and when I DID used to buy Italian sausage, I had to take it out of the skin before baking it). The Penzy's only has salt and spices in it. No MSG or nitrates. It tastes wonderful. As for " real beef " ... it doesn't have to be all that expensive either. Mine is very cheap. It mainly is an issue of buying in bulk, which takes planning and likely a freezer. But even if you just buy Costco hamburger, you are still better off than most of the junk food out there. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 That's what's so hard about convincing people of anything; their doctors don't even know about it. On Jul 5, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Deva Prem wrote: > this is news to me. i take life extension's whey powder in a smoothie > every day. tastes yummy. i asked my alt med, and he said fine. Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Does it list the spices or does it just say " spices " . If the ingredients say " spices " it is often contaminated with MSG. Irene At 12:10 AM 7/6/2006, you wrote: > If one can afford organic, doesn't that depend on the source? Real food > without preservatives, hormones, antibiotics tends to be somewhat expensive. > > I don't know about protein powders because they are not the whole food, and > whereas I take supplements I think I need, the closer to whole food one can > get, I suspect the better off one is. > > Skipper > A really cheap source of sausage is, surprisingly, *Penzy's*. For not very much, you can buy their " sausage seasoning " , which comes in several different flavors. I get Italian. Add 1T to 1lb of hamburger, mix it up, form into some shape or another, and bake. Voila! Italian sausage. (if you stuff it into a skin, it looks more " sausagelike " , but my family actually prefers meatballs and when I DID used to buy Italian sausage, I had to take it out of the skin before baking it). The Penzy's only has salt and spices in it. No MSG or nitrates. It tastes wonderful. As for " real beef " ... it doesn't have to be all that expensive either. Mine is very cheap. It mainly is an issue of buying in bulk, which takes planning and likely a freezer. But even if you just buy Costco hamburger, you are still better off than most of the junk food out there. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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