Protein powders

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Maddviking@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/28/2004 5:47:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> furryboots@... writes:

> Did your eggs ever float about in the bilgewater?

>

>

> LOL--No but they would turn a little green and taste kinda funny toward the

> end of the patrol.

>

So the omelette's had " green pepper flakes " in them?

How charming.

Apparently you survived:-)

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Personally I'd not do powders, since mixing is always a problem. Go

buy the low cal diet drinks, high protein, at costco. The AdvantEDGE

are about a hundred calories, the kirkland about two hundred. In both

cases they have about ten grams of protein per can/box. If you're on

liquids they'll do fine. I think they taste pretty good as long as

they're nice and cold.

dan

Sunday, December 19, 2004, 5:45:03 PM, you wrote:

d> Can anyone give me some heads up on some good tasting portein

d> powders that won't break the bank? The ones that I have tasted so

d> far are not so tasty. I am also looking for receips for mixing the

d> powders with. I am scheduled for my banding in Mexica in Jan 05.

d> Thanks

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 61 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

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I like the " Show Me the Whey " powder from PCC. I mix it with a cup or less

of frozen berries, a little plain yogurt, and a squeeze of flax oil.

Sometimes some Benefiber or psyllium husk fiber. Maybe milk or water.

Sylvia F

290\199\150

2/23/4 - Dr. Watkins

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From: dianewchtr [mailto:bumbum.3@...]

Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 4:45 PM

Subject: Protein powders

Hello to all:

Can anyone give me some heads up on some good tasting portein

powders that won't break the bank? The ones that I have tasted so

far are not so tasty. I am also looking for receips for mixing the

powders with. I am scheduled for my banding in Mexica in Jan 05.

Thanks

Diane

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Dan,

thank you for the input. Can you tell me how many grams of sugar there is in one

serving of this. I have been told by Dr. Fox in seattle to not have sugar and

milk products.

Thanks

Diane

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Get a couple of the clear ones from GNC. After you're on full

liquids, a fe days after surgery, you will not need protein drinks.

At that point, you'll be able to puree and thin almost any food so

you can get it through a straw. No need at all for protein drinks

after that - except possibly much later, in the rare case that your

fill is too tight for solids in thr mornings. Protein drinks are

exactly the type of liquid calories nest avoided. Sandy RN

>

>

> Hello to all:

> Can anyone give me some heads up on some good tasting portein

> powders that won't break the bank? The ones that I have tasted so

> far are not so tasty. I am also looking for receips for mixing the

> powders with. I am scheduled for my banding in Mexica in Jan 05.

> Thanks

> Diane

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What is PCC? And why the flax seed oil; what does that do for you?

Diane

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I don't use them often anymore since I am two years out but when I do, I use

the PRO-RATED " Alpine Vanilla " brand that COSTCO sells for about $20 AIR.

There are 90 1 ounce servings per container, a one ounce scoop is included.

The label says that one ounce serving has:

120 calories

1.5 grams total fat

4 grams total carbohydrates

2 grams sugars as part of the carbs

22 grams of protein.

They suggest mixing one scoop with 5-7 ounces of water or skim milk.

I find mixing with water gives a rather tasteless fluid, skim milk is better.

One bandster I know uses a beater to beat in canned peaches...mmmm good!

I used to drink a lot of Kirkland (COSTCO brand) bottles water. I saved the

small

bottle 0.5 liter?) which I would then use for my own mixed up Crystal Lite.

I also will use those washed and dried bottles by filling them with one or

two servings

of the powder. I then add skim milk to fill up and shake well. It's best to

put the fluid in maybe hald full first to shake up well then add rest of milk.

I made a powder funnel by cutting the taper top end off a bottle and then

holding the mouth of that bottle against the top of the bottle to be filled.

I just realized that likely I was putting too much powder in the bottles and

getting too much protein in one serving. I need to start just putting pone

scoop in a bottle and then only filling it half full of fluid. Alternately

start

getting the 8 ounce bottles like Jessie gives patients after a fill.

Thinking further about this, Walmart has small cans of their GREAT VALUE

brand evaporated milk for about 35 cents. These 5 ounce cans aren't available as

" Fat free evaporated milk " so that can has 200 calories of fate, 400 total

calories and 10 grams of protein. If you had a safe place to keep the milk

(cool)

you could use half a can to mix with water and the protein powder.

Walmart's Great Value fat free evaporated milk does come in 12 ounce cans.

A one ounce serving has 25 calories derived from 4 grams sugar as a

carbohydrate and two grams of protein. 3 ounces of the milk plus water plus

protein

powder ought to work well enough.

So far as storing the opened can goes, in older times people would puncture a

couple holes in one end of a can of evaporated milk and then use it as a

creamer for coffee and tea. They'd block the holes with wooden match sticks when

not in use.

A can might stay ok for a week or more.

Anyway, the COSTCO brand works for me.

Larry Murray

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PCC is a local chain of health food stores. It's their store brand whey

protein powder. Flax seed oil contains Omega-3 EFAs that are touted as

having various health benefits including helping the body shed toxins. Since

toxins are stored in fat and you are breaking down fat, your body is having

to dispose of more toxins, and maybe could use some help in that. I also

drink cran-water (1 tbsp unsweetened cranberry juice in 8 ounces water) and

water with lemon to help in de toxifying.

Sylvia F

290\199\150

2/23/4 - Dr. Watkins

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From: Diane [mailto:bumbum.3@...]

Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:49 PM

Subject: RE: Protein powders

What is PCC? And why the flax seed oil; what does that do for you?

Diane

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Diane,

I found a powder whey protein drink called Nectar, which comes in

about five or six flavors. You mix it with water and it mixes up

very nicely. It has 23 grams of protein per 8 ounces (1 scoop) and

it is sweetened with Splenda, so I doubt too much sugar, if any.

Right now I am having Kiwi Strawberry, and it is good, a little on

the sweet side though - from the splenda.

I am 8 days out and sticking to liquids until Jan 3rd, when I can

introduce mushy food.

Vicki in Lakewood

surgery 12/13/04 Dr Neal

238/231/150

" Diane " <bumbum.3@n...> wrote: Dan, thank you for the input. Can

you tell me how many grams of sugar there is in one serving of this.

I have been told by Dr. Fox in seattle to not have sugar and milk

products.

> Thanks

> Diane

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Thank you for sharing..I will have to try the cran water. I really like

cranberry juice so I should do good with that. I never thought about the body

detoxifing it self but that is true.. I would like to shed the fat and the

toxins all at the sametime. No reason why they two can't go away togther.

Diane

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Thank you for sharing the Costco shop. I will be paying them a visit soon

Diane

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Hi, 8 days out...wow you lucky girl!! Wish I could say that. So please can you

share the experience with me? My mind is racing with all kinds of questons.

Would you go and do it all again if you had too?

Oh, thanks for the info about the protein powders. I need to get a good supply

because that is what I plan on living on for awhile...until I get some of this

fat gone.

Thanks for sharing.

Diane

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hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge container and it's not expensive (as i remember). regards, devapremLinn <linnmiller@...> wrote: I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have been using powdered whey protein

isolate. I knew that soy protein isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG. Does anybody have any other recommendations?Linn __________________________________________________

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Does anyone have any other ideas for protein drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein, and it gave me horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)

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Re: Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge container and it's not expensive (as i remember).

regards,

devapremLinn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG. Does anybody have any other recommendations?Linn

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I think Mercola has an excellent made from

raw milk whey.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:27

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Protein

powders

Does anyone have any other ideas for protein

drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein, and it gave me

horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

Re:

Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that

the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org

is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge

container and it's not expensive (as i remember).

regards,

devaprem

Linn <linnmiller@...>

wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most

every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have

been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein

isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG.

Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Linn

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Oops, the web site is www.mercola.com

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iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Ives

Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:27

AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Protein

powders

Does anyone have any other ideas for protein

drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein, and it gave me

horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

Re:

Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that

the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org

is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge

container and it's not expensive (as i remember).

regards,

devaprem

Linn <linnmiller@...>

wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most

every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have

been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein

isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG.

Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Linn

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My acupuncturist turned me onto the Metagenics line of powdered supplements.  I use "Ultra Inflam X".  It lists a serving as having 15 grams of protein.  They use rice protein concentrate instead of soy.  It is all vegetarian.  They have a web site at www.metagenics.com .  If you look in the supplement section of Whole Foods or Wild Oats or whatever you have near you, you will find dozens of powder drinks.  Bring your reading glasses! On Jul 4, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Ives wrote:Does anyone have any other ideas for protein drinks that are not soy based?  I tried a whey protein, and it gave me horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)  Best, 

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For what it is worth, Weston Price doesn't recommend any protein powders

because the protein is denatured. (I am not sure about whey though). They

recommend smoothies instead. Throw some milk, cream or coconutmilk into a

blender with stuff like egg yolks, fruit and what not. I don't make

smoothies so I don't have a good recipe for you. Sorry. But you get the

idea.

Irene

At 06:26 AM 7/4/2006, you wrote:

Does anyone have any other ideas

for protein drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein,

and it gave me horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

Re: Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge container and it's not expensive (as i remember).

regards,

devaprem

Linn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most

every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have

been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein

isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG.

Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Linn

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[Guest guest]

I'll look into that one. I did go to my HFS and read every single one of them. All they had were soy and why protein ones (thousands of flavors of soy, and only two of the whey).

Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~

My acupuncturist turned me onto the Metagenics line of powdered supplements. I use "Ultra Inflam X". It lists a serving as having 15 grams of protein. They use rice protein concentrate instead of soy. It is all vegetarian. They have a web site at www.metagenics.com .

[Guest guest]

I make a smoothie every morning. I use

kefir I make from raw milk and I put two raw eggs, 2 tablespoons of coconut oil

(you can use coconut milk as well) with some stevia, blend it all up and

drink. Sometimes I put blueberries

or strawberries. Other people use

bananas but I try to watch my carbs.

Allyn

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iodine

Subject: Re: Protein

powders

For what it is worth, Weston Price doesn't recommend

any protein powders because the protein is denatured. (I am not sure about whey

though). They recommend smoothies instead. Throw some milk, cream or

coconutmilk into a blender with stuff like egg yolks, fruit and what not. I

don't make smoothies so I don't have a good recipe for you. Sorry. But you get

the idea.

Irene

At 06:26 AM 7/4/2006, you wrote:

Does anyone have any other ideas for protein drinks that are not soy

based? I tried a whey protein, and it gave me horrible bowel issues

(apparently whey bothers me?)

Best,

Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

Re: Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey

and he said that the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org is good. i take the vanilla one

and it's real yummy, you get a huge container and it's not expensive (as i

remember).

regards,

devaprem

Linn <linnmiller@...>

wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make

protein shakes most

every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon

snack. I have

been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that

soy protein

isolates were not good, but recently read that the

whey has MSG.

Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Linn

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I do make smoothies, and have been making some with ricotta for protein.But I can't find organic ricotta, and of course I worry about the antibiotics and hormones in it <sigh>.

Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~

Re: Protein powders

hi linn, i asked my alt med doc if i could start whey and he said that the whey at life extension foundation www.lef.org is good. i take the vanilla one and it's real yummy, you get a huge container and it's not expensive (as i remember).

regards,

devaprem

Linn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most

every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have

been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein

isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG.

Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Linn

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[Guest guest]

>

> I need some input. I use protein powder to make protein shakes most

> every day, either for breakfast or for my afternoon snack. I have

> been using powdered whey protein isolate. I knew that soy protein

> isolates were not good, but recently read that the whey has MSG.

> Does anybody have any other recommendations?

Since protein isn't particularly hard to get, is there a special

reason for wanting protein shakes?

Skipper

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I use Isopure, which is a whey protein isolate and it has a lot of protein, one serving is 50 grams of protein.  I usually use half a serving thrown in my shake/smoothie.  I haven't had any problems with it, was just concerned when I read about the MSG.  It doesn't say that it contains MSG anywhere on the label, but neither does a lot of stuff that you buy, it's labeled with all kinds of alternate names.  I looked online but couldn't find much else except soy or whey powders.  I have to be careful as I can't use anything with sugar in it.  Some of them have lots of sugar added.  I guess for now I'll stick with the Isopure.  (I'm such a wuss I don't think I could bring myself to eat raw eggs.)   It does come in several flavors and only has 1 gram of sugar.  I've been able to find it online for 1/2 the price that the health food store charges.  LinnOn Jul 4, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Ives wrote:I'll look into that one.  I did go to my HFS and read every single one of them. All they had were soy and why protein ones (thousands of flavors of soy, and only two of the whey). Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com . 

[Guest guest]

There is a RICE protein powder available at larger health food

stores. Can't remember the brand at the moment, but it can work

well for people sensitive to soy or whey, or who are otherwise

concerned about soy. I bought a can a few years ago and used

it, but somehow didn't care for it enough to repurchase.

A little soy doesn't bother me personally, despite that I

Rast test somewhat sensitive to it. I use the Spirutein

protein powders up to 2-3x a week. As a thyroid patient,

I'm already well medicated so don't worry about soy depressing

the thryoid. For me, it's been the best protein powder, a fave of

mine for about 15-20 yrs now. I always go back to it. Again,

Vitamin Shoppe's clone didn't even come close for me, despite the

ingredients list.

I tried several whey protein powders. Despite the massive amount

of glowing literature in the nutrition and bodybuilding mags,

the whey products just flattened me. I felt nervous and strung

out (unusual) after eating them. The flavored ones also seemed

excessively sweet.

Carol

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[Guest guest]

> Since protein isn't particularly hard to get, is there a special

> reason for wanting protein shakes?

>

> Skipper

>

For myself, I used to make protein shakes every morning

because if I didn't have protein in the AM I'd get shakey and

hungry from just the carbs. But these days most protein powders

don't get along with me, nor do eggs. Raw liver I can't quite

handle in a smoothie!

So I've been experimenting with the " Japanese diet " . I

take a whole small fish, which are sold individually

frozen and often deboned to boot, at the Asian stores.

Plop the whole frozen small fish in the toaster oven, with

maybe a cup of rice if I feel like it, and set the timer

for 20 minutes or so, let it cook while I'm cleaning

up the kitchen etc. When the fish is done the skin

is crisply and nice.

Then I have a bowl of rice with fish, kimchi, seaweed,

and chili sauce while I wake up in the AM.

What has been amazing to me is how much *energy*

I've been having during the day as a result! It sets wonderfully

as a breakfast, and is less work than my previous AM meals.

Also it doesn't make me crazy-hungry later (which plain

rice would).

Anyway, when I was in college I'd eat fish because it

has a protein that makes your brain more alert. I eat the

small fish, because the big ones tend to horde the mercury,

plus they don't have so much fish oil (the Asian favorites

of yellow croaker and sablefish are very high in oil).

This methodology doesn't take much time at all in the AM,

and cleanup is easy. I make the rice once a week and

keep it in the fridge, but it freezes well too (and you don't

actually need the rice to have the fish: I just like the

food combination: if you want to be less " Asian " about it,

just use a slice of lemon or some dipping sauce with the

fish).

-- Heidi