Re: New here with multiple issues-Skipper

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Skipper, What area in the US is autism "common"? Our adult son (26) has only just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still lives at home, is very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After speaking with Dr. B, I have been including iodine supplementation in his regimen for about a month. Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all kinds of major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him off of his current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg risperdal. I wonder .. because of him still being on the fluoxetine .. what the iodine supplementation might actually be doing for him? Glo

[Guest guest]

There may be " pockets " where there are higher rates, but generally

it's incredibly common. The pockets might be because of certain peds

having more vaccs reactions in their practice then others. ASD is

overwhelmingly attributed to vaccs, although some other kiddos have

been poisoned by other chemicals in the environment (antimony is in

almost everythign as well, especially all those baby products that

are flame retardant).

Michele

>

> Skipper,

>

> What area in the US is autism " common " ? Our adult son (26) has

only just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still lives at

home, is very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After speaking

with Dr. B, I have been including iodine supplementation in his

regimen for about a month.

>

> Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all

kinds of major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him

off of his current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg

risperdal. I wonder .. because of him still being on the

fluoxetine .. what the iodine supplementation might actually be

doing for him?

>

> Glo

>

[Guest guest]

>From: Glory Near <glonear@...>

>Skipper,

>

> What area in the US is autism " common " ? Our adult son (26) has only

>just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still lives at home, is

>very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After speaking with Dr. B, I

>have been including iodine supplementation in his regimen for about a

>month.

> Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all kinds of

>major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him off of his

>current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg risperdal. I

>wonder .. because of him still being on the fluoxetine .. what the iodine

>supplementation might actually be doing for him?

Why what does prozac do for him? I guess he hasn't committed suicide yet.

I'm not sure the establishment media has gotten the link between prozac and

violence yet, wonder if that's listed in the side effects.

What's prozac do for him?

I assume that you know the " fluo " prefix usually means fluorinated drug?

Of course, some people do need psychiatric meds. Can't function and are a

danger to society otherwise.

On the other hand, low thyroid has been known for a very long time to cause

mental health issues. Finding root causes is always better, when possible.

Just a short excerpt of course, but are you sure you're doing him a favor?

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/prozac.html

Prozac is a fluorinated drug called " fluoxetine " .

Paxil is a fluorinated drug called " paroxetine " (also called Seroxat,

Aropax).

Both drugs contain fluorine and chloride. Fluoride is present as a

'4-fluorophenyl' compound, part of the 'active' ingredient.

Fluorophenyl compounds have shown to disturb thyroid hormone activity in

several ways, specifically in the liver and at the

hypothalamus-pituitary-thyroid (HPT) axis.

In depressed patients receiving paroxetine the T4 level was reduced by 11.

2% (Konig et al, 2000).

In rat brain, fluoxetine has also been shown to interfere with local T3

metabolism (Eravci et al, 2000; Baumgartner et al, 1994).

Wonder if your doctor considered -

http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/risperid_ad.htm

Fluoxetine (20 mg QD) and paroxetine (20 mg QD) have been shown to increase

the plasma concentration of risperidone 2.5-2.8 fold and 3-9 fold

respectively.

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if autism is " common " but there are certainly hot

spots, areas where it is higher than the average rate. California is one

of them. Some connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the

prevailing winds from coal burning China. Others link it to perchlorate

pollution from the aerospace industry here. I am not sure we know for

sure. There are a couple of other hot spots in the country, but I don't

remember where they are now.

Irene

At 06:41 AM 12/7/2006, you wrote:

Skipper,

What area in the US is autism " common " ? Our adult son

(26) has only just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still

lives at home, is very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After

speaking with Dr. B, I have been including iodine supplementation in his

regimen for about a month.

Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all kinds of

major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him off of his

current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg

risperdal. I wonder .. because of him still being on the

fluoxetine .. what the iodine supplementation might actually be doing for

him?

Glo

[Guest guest]

I have no links handy, but from what I read, the Autism " hot spots "

coincide with areas of the nations with many upper middle class people

who let the docs vaccinate their kids much more than in poorer regions

where parents are much more lax about vaccinations. Amish kids, who

are never vaccinated, have a zero rate of autism, except where kids

had been adopted and had previously been vaccinated.

Alobar

On 12/8/06, Irene.M@... <Irene.M@...> wrote:

>

> I don't know if autism is " common " but there are certainly hot spots, areas

where it is higher than the average rate. California is one of them. Some

connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the prevailing winds from coal

burning China. Others link it to perchlorate pollution from the aerospace

industry here. I am not sure we know for sure. There are a couple of other hot

spots in the country, but I don't remember where they are now.

> Irene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

We live in Amish country here. Yes, there is Autism in the Amish,

non-adopted children.

E

> >

> > I don't know if autism is " common " but there are certainly hot

spots, areas where it is higher than the average rate. California is

one of them. Some connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the

prevailing winds from coal burning China. Others link it to

perchlorate pollution from the aerospace industry here. I am not sure

we know for sure. There are a couple of other hot spots in the

country, but I don't remember where they are now.

> > Irene

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> We live in Amish country here. Yes, there is Autism in the Amish,

> non-adopted children.

I think Dr. Mercola's site talks about how rare it is in the Amish, at

least in Pennsylvania. If it is a mercury issue, one reason is

vaccination, but there's other exposures to mercury?

Do you live by the Amish Mercola is likely to talk about?

http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/7/amish_autism.htm

The investigation regarding autism, or lack of it, among the Amish

living in the heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country continues to gain

momentum.

Based on national averages, there should've been as many as 200

children with autism living in that community; however, only three

children were found to suffer from the disorder (two of which had

received vaccines laced with thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative).

The newest finding: Several cases of autism among unvaccinated Amish

children in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Texas have crept to the forefront.

Mercury Exposure from Elsewhere

The common bond in four of the unvaccinated cases of autism was that

the children had extremely high mercury levels due to exposure to

pollution coming from coal-fired power plants. (Mercury is a byproduct

of coal combustion.)

Exactly where did the pollution come from?

*According to the Pittsburgh Post, Pennsylvania has four of the

nation's 10 dirtiest power plants.

*In addition, northern states receive most of the prevailing wind

that comes across the Pacific carrying a load of Chinese mercury with it.

And while some doctors prefer to use treatments such as chelation to

flush mercury out of autistic children, the Amish community in

Pennsylvania strongly rejects any such medical procedures.

*********

Skipper

[Guest guest]

No, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois tri-state area. There are many here.

Another consideration is the closed gene pool of the Amish populations

that causes some serious problems (such as allergies and other genetic

problems, etc) but may also offer protection from others. Few take

this into consideration unless dealing with the negative ramifications.

E (Ellen in Missouri)

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > We live in Amish country here. Yes, there is Autism in the Amish,

> > non-adopted children.

>

> I think Dr. Mercola's site talks about how rare it is in the Amish, at

> least in Pennsylvania. If it is a mercury issue, one reason is

> vaccination, but there's other exposures to mercury?

>

> Do you live by the Amish Mercola is likely to talk about?

>

> http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/7/amish_autism.htm

> The investigation regarding autism, or lack of it, among the Amish

> living in the heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country continues to gain

> momentum.

>

> Based on national averages, there should've been as many as 200

> children with autism living in that community; however, only three

> children were found to suffer from the disorder (two of which had

> received vaccines laced with thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative).

>

> The newest finding: Several cases of autism among unvaccinated Amish

> children in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Texas have crept to the forefront.

>

> Mercury Exposure from Elsewhere

>

> The common bond in four of the unvaccinated cases of autism was that

> the children had extremely high mercury levels due to exposure to

> pollution coming from coal-fired power plants. (Mercury is a byproduct

> of coal combustion.)

>

> Exactly where did the pollution come from?

>

> *According to the Pittsburgh Post, Pennsylvania has four of the

> nation's 10 dirtiest power plants.

> *In addition, northern states receive most of the prevailing wind

> that comes across the Pacific carrying a load of Chinese mercury

with it.

>

> And while some doctors prefer to use treatments such as chelation to

> flush mercury out of autistic children, the Amish community in

> Pennsylvania strongly rejects any such medical procedures.

> *********

> Skipper

>

[Guest guest]

Some amish parents are now vaccinating their children.

Saturday, December 9, 2006, 9:26:54 AM, you wrote:

Hi,

We live in Amish country here. Yes, there is Autism in the Amish,

non-adopted children.

E

> >

> > I don't know if autism is "common" but there are certainly hot

spots, areas where it is higher than the average rate. California is

one of them. Some connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the

prevailing winds from coal burning China. Others link it to

perchlorate pollution from the aerospace industry here. I am not sure

we know for sure. There are a couple of other hot spots in the

country, but I don't remember where they are now.

> > Irene

> >

> >

Iodine

[Guest guest]

I am in Southern California.

Irene

At 06:59 AM 12/9/2006, you wrote:

Hello Irene. Just

out of curiosity, where are you living. I am in Hong Kong.

Cheers, Doug

RE: New here with multiple issues-Skipper

I don't know if autism is " common " but there are certainly hot spots, areas where it is higher than the average rate. California is one of them. Some connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the prevailing winds from coal burning China. Others link it to perchlorate pollution from the aerospace industry here. I am not sure we know for sure. There are a couple of other hot spots in the country, but I don't remember where they are now.

Irene

At 06:41 AM 12/7/2006, you wrote:

Skipper,

What area in the US is autism " common " ? Our adult son (26) has only just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still lives at home, is very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After speaking with Dr. B, I have been including iodine supplementation in his regimen for about a month.

Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all kinds of major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him off of his current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg risperdal. I wonder .. because of him still being on the fluoxetine .. what the iodine supplementation might actually be doing for him?

Glo

[Guest guest]

OK, Just trying to get people's location positioned in my mind.

Cheers, Doug

RE: New here with multiple issues-Skipper

I don't know if autism is "common" but there are certainly hot spots, areas where it is higher than the average rate. California is one of them. Some connect it to mercury pollution blowing in on the prevailing winds from coal burning China. Others link it to perchlorate pollution from the aerospace industry here. I am not sure we know for sure. There are a couple of other hot spots in the country, but I don't remember where they are now.

Irene

At 06:41 AM 12/7/2006, you wrote:

Skipper,

What area in the US is autism "common"? Our adult son (26) has only just recently been diagnosed with Aspergers. He still lives at home, is very dependent on us and has MANY problems. After speaking with Dr. B, I have been including iodine supplementation in his regimen for about a month.

Not trying to take away from THIS thread, but because of all kinds of major behavioral issues, I am terribly afraid of taking him off of his current meds. He is on 20mgs Prozac (fluoxetine) and 1mg risperdal. I wonder .. because of him still being on the fluoxetine .. what the iodine supplementation might actually be doing for him?

Glo

[Guest guest]

>From: " Ellen " <ellen@...>

>No, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois tri-state area. There are many here.

>Another consideration is the closed gene pool of the Amish populations

>that causes some serious problems (such as allergies and other genetic

>problems, etc) but may also offer protection from others. Few take

>this into consideration unless dealing with the negative ramifications.

>

>E (Ellen in Missouri)

Mercola talked only about the Amish in particular areas. If the rate of the

autism among Amish is lower in certain areas, it does say they are doing

something different like not vaccinating. But, if an area gets autism due to

mercury or something poured into the Mississippi River and tributaries, it's

likely that couldn't be avoided.

The Mormons allegedly have healthy lifestyles. It didn't prevent their

cancer rates from going up after the atomic testing that the government was

happy to tell us about in advance, and talk about as if it was a " light

show. "

Still, the actual comparison on a percentage basis might be relevant. Just

because the Amish children get autism, is the rate exactly that of the

general population? Nobody is doing studies on vaccination with these kind

of questions because they don't want to know.

Skipper

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[Guest guest]

Most of these Amish started out in Minnesota and migrated South.

Also, rivers and streams dump into the Mississippi, not the other way

around.

Autism has been known and identified for a long, long time. I posted

a few minutes ago about autism and other disorders so will not re-post

that info.

E (Ellen in Missouri)

>

> >From: " Ellen " <ellen@...>

>

> >No, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois tri-state area. There are many here.

> >Another consideration is the closed gene pool of the Amish populations

> >that causes some serious problems (such as allergies and other genetic

> >problems, etc) but may also offer protection from others. Few take

> >this into consideration unless dealing with the negative ramifications.

> >

> >E (Ellen in Missouri)

>

> Mercola talked only about the Amish in particular areas. If the

rate of the

> autism among Amish is lower in certain areas, it does say they are

doing

> something different like not vaccinating. But, if an area gets

autism due to

> mercury or something poured into the Mississippi River and

tributaries, it's

> likely that couldn't be avoided.

>

> The Mormons allegedly have healthy lifestyles. It didn't prevent their

> cancer rates from going up after the atomic testing that the

government was

> happy to tell us about in advance, and talk about as if it was a " light

> show. "

>

> Still, the actual comparison on a percentage basis might be

relevant. Just

> because the Amish children get autism, is the rate exactly that of the

> general population? Nobody is doing studies on vaccination with

these kind

> of questions because they don't want to know.

>

> Skipper

>

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