Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Can somebody tell me what is the "beta-blocker" the British Thyroid Foundation is talking about in their response please? Are they actually suggesting that the adrenals might be compromised? I would be very interested to know if this is the case and why, then, are NHS doctors refusing to accept that some patients cannot tolerate thyroxine until they have been treated with a "beta-blocker". Hmm! Luv - Sheila ______________________ On the BTF Website: Q: I have tried taking thyroxine but it makes me feel ill. Are there any homeopathic remedies that I could take instead? A: The only treatment that will help an underactive thyroid is thyroid hormone replacement. Homeopathic remedies are totally useless in this situation. If your body has been without thyroxine for a long time it might be easier for you to start off with a small dose of thyroxine than originally prescribed and build the dose up gradually giving your body a chance to get used to it. It might also be necessary to combine this treatment with a beta-blocker, which can often overcome symptoms as thyroxine is introduced back into the system. It might be sensible to seek a referral to an endocrinologist if you have had difficulties in the past so that these alternatives can be discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I am sure I recall that some months ago it was recommended that doctors stop giving their patients beta-blockers because it was found that it was causing some people to get diabetes. Now as diabetes and thyroid have a connection I would have thought that beta-blockers would be the last thing to give someone. Mind you some doctors are still prescribing beta-blockers because my husband still has them. Lilian Can somebody tell me what is the "beta-blocker" the British Thyroid Foundation is talking about in their response please? Are they actually suggesting that the adrenals might be compromised? I would be very interested to know if this is the case and why, then, are NHS doctors refusing to accept that some patients cannot tolerate thyroxine until they have been treated with a "beta-blocker". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi Lilian, I couldn’t agree more. I was treated with betablockers for several years when I was taking thyroxine and had many hypo symptoms. I did have high blood pressure, but this was prescribed as a migraine preventive- I got lots of the sleepy, swollen ankle type of side effects, but these were nothing compared with a full 3 day migraine following another with only a few hours respite between. I stopped taking them when I changed form T4 to Armour and T3. I have not had migraines since. I still have high BP and am now trying COQ 10 and B3 to see if that helps- docs don’t like it when I keep refusing drugs to treat the BP I’ve tried them all and have horrible side effects I’d rather take my chances. I am sure I recall that some months ago it was recommended that doctors stop giving their patients beta-blockers because it was found that it was causing some people to get diabetes. Now as diabetes and thyroid have a connection I would have thought that beta-blockers would be the last thing to give someone. Mind you some doctors are still prescribing beta-blockers because my husband still has them. Lilian Can somebody tell me what is the " beta-blocker " the British Thyroid Foundation is talking about in their response please? Are they actually suggesting that the adrenals might be compromised? I would be very interested to know if this is the case and why, then, are NHS doctors refusing to accept that some patients cannot tolerate thyroxine until they have been treated with a " beta-blocker " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Oh Bovver! I was thinking of STEROIDS rather than beta-blockers. How silly is that? I take your point though nne - perhaps somebody should be asking them one or two questions. Why can't they come out and say what they mean, after all, they are supposed to be giving answers to patients. Luv - Sheila I am surprised that they are recommending beta blockers Sheila as they have been shown to cause type 2 diabetis in some and those with hypoT are more susceptible tp that. The only beta blockers I know of are used for reducing (until June 2006) hypertension and to prevent heart attacks - this is what they worry about with too much thyroxine isn't it - that it causes heart problems along with thinning of the bones. I don't think that the beta blockers have anything to do with the adrenals though. Luv nne Can somebody tell me what is the "beta-blocker" the British Thyroid Foundation is talking about in their response please? Are they actually suggesting that the adrenals might be compromised? I would be very interested to know if this is the case and why, then, are NHS doctors refusing to accept that some patients cannot tolerate thyroxine until they have been treated with a "beta-blocker". No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 27/12/2007 13:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I am guessing that because a lack of thyroxine lowers the metabolism and probably the pulse i.e heart rate then by putting thyroxine back in to the system can increase the heart rate and a beta blocker will block that action, thus reducing the risk of a shock to the cardiac system...just a thought not looked into this though, just trying to think through with my medical brain.... Kim > > Can somebody tell me what is the " beta-blocker " the British Thyroid Foundation is talking about in their response please? Are they actually suggesting that the adrenals might be compromised? I would be very interested to know if this is the case and why, then, are NHS doctors refusing to accept that some patients cannot tolerate thyroxine until they have been treated with a " beta-blocker " . > > Hmm! > > Luv - Sheila > ______________________ > > On the BTF Website: > > Q: I have tried taking thyroxine but it makes me feel ill. Are there any homeopathic remedies that I could take instead? > > A: The only treatment that will help an underactive thyroid is thyroid hormone replacement. Homeopathic remedies are totally useless in this situation. If your body has been without thyroxine for a long time it might be easier for you to start off with a small dose of thyroxine than originally prescribed and build the dose up gradually giving your body a chance to get used to it. It might also be necessary to combine this treatment with a beta-blocker, which can often overcome symptoms as thyroxine is introduced back into the system. It might be sensible to seek a referral to an endocrinologist if you have had difficulties in the past so that these alternatives can be discussed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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