Re: bucking the band

[Guest guest]

, Is there a special emphasis for your new group? Nice idea, but

I personally can't handle being active in any more groups than the

two I presently give time to - this one, and Dr Kuri's extremely

active private teaching and support group, with probably 50 questions

a day.

Most people don't know that There are over 5500 health-related

groups already, with almost 130 BAND groups. Already something for

just about EVERYone! Gays, black people, whiners, exercise addicts,

people whose bands have eroded, slipped bands, etc.

All health-related groups:

http://health.dir./dir/Health___Wellness/Health_CareIn

All the Bandster groups:search?query=Bandsters

Sandy R

, " mossmegan " <mossmegan@y...> wrote:

> -I have created a new group called lapbandsters

> come and join and share all your stories.-- In

[Guest guest]

-Nothing special, except you can say whatever your feeling. Nobody

should be offended, but learning from everyone eles' experiences is

fun. I have 2 gal friends that are being banded and we live in

Everett, WA and would like to hear about all, and any questions.

We have all done lot's of research on the gastric-bypass and lap-

band, I was going to personally have the gastric until I saw a

commercial about the band. I love life so much more. And every

10lbs. makes moving easier. If I could have this surgery everyday

for the rest of my life to be where I am now, I would do it.

I believe this is a good tool, and knowledge can benefit everyone.

would like for you to stop by and say hi.-- In

, " Sandy " <MoonshadowRN@y...> wrote:

> , Is there a special emphasis for your new group? Nice idea,

but

> I personally can't handle being active in any more groups than the

> two I presently give time to - this one, and Dr Kuri's extremely

> active private teaching and support group, with probably 50

questions

> a day.

>

> Most people don't know that There are over 5500 health-related

> groups already, with almost 130 BAND groups. Already something for

> just about EVERYone! Gays, black people, whiners, exercise

addicts,

> people whose bands have eroded, slipped bands, etc.

>

> All health-related groups:

>

http://health.dir./dir/Health___Wellness/Health_CareI

n

>

> All the Bandster groups:search?

query=Bandsters

>

> Sandy R

>

> , " mossmegan " <mossmegan@y...>

wrote:

> > -I have created a new group called lapbandsters

> > come and join and share all your stories.-- In

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

I'm sorry you feel that way, but only you are

responsible for how people make you feel. Personally,

I get angry when I hear about bandster's not following

their Dr's protocol.

You see, I fought hard to get my band. Over 2 years, I

fought, looking for a surgeon, only to be turned away

because practices lost their lap band Dr, or another

surgeon wouldn't do a band on someone with such a high

BMI and I had to keep looking and looking and never

gave up. I had too much at stake. My very life is at

stake here! To see or hear about people who knowingly

break protocol just to get their " fix " is

unbelievable.

Think about it, at most, your surgeon is asking you

for a limited diet for 4-6 weeks post-op. That's 4-6

weeks out of your entire life. You're telling me that

someone is willing to risk their band placement, and

even their very health (or journey to good health)

because they can't control their impulse for an hour

(to ride it through at least)? If someone can't

control what they put into their mouth, then the

bypass probably is a better option for them because

the body will dump everything that is bad for them.

I'm sorry Jackie, this post is probably exactly what

you're talking about, but this is my perspective.

Mercy

2/9/05

428/408/333/180

--- JWJwilcock@... wrote:

> Am I the only person that is fed up with reading

> about how one should follow

> the pre band, after band diet, etc. and stick to it

> for more than a couple

> of weeks. Well, if I could do that then I wouldn't

> have needed the band in the

> first place! I feel put down by others who are

> obviously doing far better

> than I am. Maybe it just proves your point. But the

> postings have sounded very

> much like a put down for those of us who aren't

> doing so well. And quite

> frankly I've been put down enough and don't need to

> feel that way on here.

> Jackie

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Good for you, I'm guessing that pre banding you were not able to

follow a diet for any length of time. How about positive

reinforcement here. Shouldn't it be about win-win. Maybe those

people needed support and knowledge just like you at some point. As

overweight people we have been made fun of for years and judged for

our weight, why would you want to perpetuate this type of

behaviour. It's not whining, it takes a lot of lifestyle

adjustments to make this work. That's why support groups exist to

assist us in making the right choices and following through with

them.

Lori

> > Am I the only person that is fed up with reading about how one

> should follow

> > the pre band, after band diet, etc. and stick to it for more

than a

>

> couple

> > of weeks. Well, if I could do that then I wouldn't have needed

> the

> band in the

> > first place! I feel put down by others who are obviously doing

> far

> better

> > than I am. Maybe it just proves your point. But the postings

> have

> sounded very

> > much like a put down for those of us who aren't doing so well.

> And

> quite

> > frankly I've been put down enough and don't need to feel that

way

> on here.

> > Jackie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mercy, that attitude is exactly what fat people face every day. Why

couldn't you " quit your whining " and just " control your impulses " rather

than gain weight in the first place? You seem to have this attitude of

perfection when quite frankly if you were you wouldn't have needed

surgery in the first place. I know I'm not perfect! I've never eaten a

whole pizza but I'd be lying to say I've 100% all healthy foods, I drink

a cup of tea almost every morning, that's a no-no. Most of my weight

gain is medication related. I'd also be a liar to say I couldn't have

lost it without surgery. I could have if I could eat this little on my

own, but I couldn't seem to pull it off. Thus my needing a band.

People get the band because they can't eat that small of quantity of

food on their own. In my opinion it's better than a bypass because it's

reversable and adjustable, not just because it will dump what's bad for

you. There are bound to be those who mess up. I don't think calling

someone a whiner encourages better behaviour in them. You've only been

banded 6 months. A year from now you might be messing up and looking

for encouragement. I would hate to see people calling you a whiner and

asking you to just suck it up. I know personally I'd be encouraging you

to keep trying and get back on the wagon.

Kerri

Mercy wrote:

> Jackie,

>

> I'm sorry you feel that way, but only you are

> responsible for how people make you feel. Personally,

> I get angry when I hear about bandster's not following

> their Dr's protocol.

>

> You see, I fought hard to get my band. Over 2 years, I

> fought, looking for a surgeon, only to be turned away

> because practices lost their lap band Dr, or another

> surgeon wouldn't do a band on someone with such a high

> BMI and I had to keep looking and looking and never

> gave up. I had too much at stake. My very life is at

> stake here! To see or hear about people who knowingly

> break protocol just to get their " fix " is

> unbelievable.

>

> Think about it, at most, your surgeon is asking you

> for a limited diet for 4-6 weeks post-op. That's 4-6

> weeks out of your entire life. You're telling me that

> someone is willing to risk their band placement, and

> even their very health (or journey to good health)

> because they can't control their impulse for an hour

> (to ride it through at least)? If someone can't

> control what they put into their mouth, then the

> bypass probably is a better option for them because

> the body will dump everything that is bad for them.

>

> I'm sorry Jackie, this post is probably exactly what

> you're talking about, but this is my perspective.

>

> Mercy

> 2/9/05

> 428/408/333/180

>

>

> --- JWJwilcock@... wrote:

>

> > Am I the only person that is fed up with reading

> > about how one should follow

> > the pre band, after band diet, etc. and stick to it

> > for more than a couple

> > of weeks. Well, if I could do that then I wouldn't

> > have needed the band in the

> > first place! I feel put down by others who are

> > obviously doing far better

> > than I am. Maybe it just proves your point. But the

> > postings have sounded very

> > much like a put down for those of us who aren't

> > doing so well. And quite

> > frankly I've been put down enough and don't need to

> > feel that way on here.

> > Jackie

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Each individual person is responsible for him or herself. How we got overweight

is our on personal problem. Now that we have chosen to take matters into our on

hands, it our responsibility to make sure we use the band to the full extent of

it's capabilities.

The Lap-Band in itself is not a weight loss guarantee. You have to help the

band. Watch watch you eat, exercises, drink water, get fills. You really must

follow banding procedure to achieve success. If you don't, you are only

setting yourself up for failure.

When one makes a decision to get weight loss surgery, one must take on the

responsibility of this undertaking.

I am a lap band patient who spent my on money on this. $10,000. If I fail it

is my own fault. Not the band, the support groups or anyone else. Me, myself

and I.

Carole Tissue

6-10-05 Dr. www.ready4achange.com

268.5/256.5 (lots of inches lost due to exercise)

ps: enough already about bucking the band

Kerri McCafferty <kerri@...> wrote:

Mercy, that attitude is exactly what fat people face every day. Why

couldn't you " quit your whining " and just " control your impulses "

>

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6-10-05 dr. sanchez

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[Guest guest]

You don't think I don't know what a fat person

encounters every day? I've known that everyday my

entire life! I've been fat my entire life! I'm still

fat. Heck, I see some people's starting weight, and I

wish I *was* that weight.

My point is, when you make a decision to change your

life for the better, then follow through. If you are

not committed to see it through, or aren't ready, then

don't do it just yet. The band will always be there

later when you're ready to make that full-time

commitment, and it is a full-time commitment. As I was

saying, I get angry when I hear about other people

sabotaging themselves. They have this valuable tool

(that I fought over 2 years to get), and are putting

it at risk with their behavior.

Now, let me just say that I have not, nor have I ever

called anyone a whiner (that wasn't my post). I

realize that sometimes there are bumps in the road...

leaks, not enough fill, etc. When there are issues,

you should always look for the physical first, make

sure there is nothing wrong with your band. If

everything checks out, then you should be looking at

your habits. I'll be the first to say that I'm not

perfect (heck, I had some tiramisu the other night...

yummm). I also realize that I will not lose another

75lbs in the next 6 months (hell, I was surprised

about the first 75lbs since surgery)

Again, this is my perspective. When I have issues,

I'll definitely bring them up here, sometimes tough

love is what's needed to have me open my eyes.

Mercy

2/9/05

428/408/331/180

--- Kerri McCafferty <kerri@...> wrote:

> Mercy, that attitude is exactly what fat people face

> every day. Why

> couldn't you " quit your whining " and just " control

> your impulses " rather

> than gain weight in the first place? You seem to

> have this attitude of

> perfection when quite frankly if you were you

> wouldn't have needed

> surgery in the first place. I know I'm not perfect!

> I've never eaten a

> whole pizza but I'd be lying to say I've 100% all

> healthy foods, I drink

> a cup of tea almost every morning, that's a no-no.

> Most of my weight

> gain is medication related. I'd also be a liar to

> say I couldn't have

> lost it without surgery. I could have if I could

> eat this little on my

> own, but I couldn't seem to pull it off. Thus my

> needing a band.

>

> People get the band because they can't eat that

> small of quantity of

> food on their own. In my opinion it's better than a

> bypass because it's

> reversable and adjustable, not just because it will

> dump what's bad for

> you. There are bound to be those who mess up. I

> don't think calling

> someone a whiner encourages better behaviour in

> them. You've only been

> banded 6 months. A year from now you might be

> messing up and looking

> for encouragement. I would hate to see people

> calling you a whiner and

> asking you to just suck it up. I know personally

> I'd be encouraging you

> to keep trying and get back on the wagon.

>

> Kerri

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Kerri, I agree 100% with you. I'm not into the tough love approach

at all. They put a band around my stomach, but they didn't put a

band around my brain. Which would be nice!!!!!!!!

Lacey

> >

> > > Am I the only person that is fed up with reading

> > > about how one should follow

> > > the pre band, after band diet, etc. and stick to it

> > > for more than a couple

> > > of weeks. Well, if I could do that then I wouldn't

> > > have needed the band in the

> > > first place! I feel put down by others who are

> > > obviously doing far better

> > > than I am. Maybe it just proves your point. But the

> > > postings have sounded very

> > > much like a put down for those of us who aren't

> > > doing so well. And quite

> > > frankly I've been put down enough and don't need to

> > > feel that way on here.

> > > Jackie

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

ACtually, there are over 200 band groups. Some don't show up with

that search, but do with lapband or lap-band or gastric band or

something else. So there are indeed a ton of them. Some have more

messages than anyone can imagine, others have a couple a month.

dan

Thursday, August 11, 2005, 4:02:48 PM, you wrote:

S> Most people don't know that There are over 5500 health-related

S> groups already, with almost 130 BAND groups. Already something for

S> just about EVERYone! Gays, black people, whiners, exercise addicts,

S> people whose bands have eroded, slipped bands, etc.

S> All health-related groups:

S> http://health.dir./dir/Health___Wellness/Health_CareIn

S> All the Bandster

S> groups:search?query=Bandsters

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

[Guest guest]

Thursday, August 11, 2005, 10:13:57 PM, you wrote:

LR> It's not whining, it takes a lot of lifestyle

LR> adjustments to make this work. That's why support groups exist to

LR> assist us in making the right choices and following through with

LR> them.

Yes, it takes adjustments. But saying " I can't make the adjustment "

doesn't accomplish anything, does it?

Remember, the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and

over and expecting different results each time.

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.