Re: Hashimoto & severe itching

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I also had such awful itching at night when I went on thyroid meds

this year that I had difficulty falling asleep. My homeopath gave me

Rhus Tox and that solved the problem for me. After a while I didn't

need to take it anymore. I took it at bedtime, as that was the time

it bothered me the most. Now I sometimes get a little itchyness on

the insides of my upper arms but I haven't taken the rhus tox in ages.

Nothing else helped me before, not creams or lotions or anything.

Just about drove me crazy. I am on levothyroxine & cytomel.

On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:32 AM, mem_mem_me wrote:

> I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> is so out of control.

[Guest guest]

I suspect you need more Armour and cortef. Different treatment.

Gracia

I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have beenup for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorland 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itchingis so out of control.

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What is Rhus Tox and how do you get it. I have never heard of it.

Thanks

>

> > I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> > up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> > and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> > is so out of control.

>

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That is where I started was with cortef and it did nothing. At least

I am having some ability to funciton on medrol there was none on

cortef. I called the Broda Foundation and they said that not

everyone does well and cortef and some people need different types of

cortisol meds. I am trying to up my amour slowly. After writing this

on different forums it seems that itching common. I have really tried

so many things that are just not working. On cortef, I could not even

raise an 1/8 of gr. of armour

Thanks

Ellen

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-- In iodine , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

>

> I suspect you need more Armour and cortef. Different treatment.

> Gracia

>

> I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> is so out of control.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Rhus tox is a homeopathic remedy. It comes in tiny pills and is

available from a number of makers. You can usually find it in your

natural foods stores, such as Whole Foods, etc.

She gave me 200c., I took one dose, then another when I start to

lose results. If you take a lower dose, such as 30c., you need to

take it more often, daily, and even several times a day. If it is

correct remedy for your problem you should get some relief right away

though. She also has taken my case and has been treating me for

other things the past few years. If you can consult with a

homeopath, by all means do. Knowing everything that is going on with

you will help them prescribe the correct remedy for you. By the

way, you should not drink coffee with most remedies, or use anything

with camphor.

Here is a link which explains rhus tox: < http://www.elixirs.com/

products.cfm?productcode=S135>

You put the pills under your tongue and let them dissolve there. Do

not eat or drink anything for 15 minutes before or after taking.

On Sep 10, 2006, at 9:01 AM, mem_mem_me wrote:

>

> What is Rhus Tox and how do you get it. I have never heard of it.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>>

>>> I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

>>> up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of

>>> medorl

>>> and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the

>>> itching

>>> is so out of control.

[Guest guest]

>From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...>

>That is where I started was with cortef and it did nothing. At least

>I am having some ability to funciton on medrol there was none on

>cortef. I called the Broda Foundation and they said that not

>everyone does well and cortef and some people need different types of

>cortisol meds. I am trying to up my amour slowly. After writing this

>on different forums it seems that itching common. I have really tried

>so many things that are just not working. On cortef, I could not even

>raise an 1/8 of gr. of armour

I know this is the third time I've asked the question. But, since the

quantity of medrol you said you are taking is equivalent to 30 mg of Cortef,

how much Cortef were you taking before you switched to Medrol? And were you

spreading it out four times a day as suggested by Jeffries in " Safe

Uses of Cortisol?

Medrol is a synthetic analog, which means it's not like cortisol, the

molecules have been changed so the drug companies can patent it.

Medrol or prednisone is like taking Cortef without the salt retaining

properties, which many with adrenal insufficiency need. So, are you taking

a mineralcorticoid in another form?

Maybe it's the lack of sodium retention that causes the itching. (Assuming

it's not some kind of parasite or other medical reason.)

Have you had your sodium / potassium levels tested? You have to be in

pretty bad shape for those to be out of range. Which means they can cause

problems before they show up on labs. But, severe adrenal insufficiency

would cause low sodium. And since Medrol doesn't provide the sodium

retention you need, it could cause the same.

Ancient remedy, but it points out low salt levels can cause itching -

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm

A hip-bath in salt water was a superb remedy for skin diseases and itching:

" This brine - he said - is better than all the health spas arising out of

nature. "

Maybe some of that sea salt people are talking about would be helpful to

you, but you might still have problems retaining it.

Skipper

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Are you taking fish oil, cod liver oil? It has done wonders for my skin. Take

thumb and

forefinger about 6 inches apart and put them on your upper arm and draw the skin

together until

the fingers are about 3 inches apart. You will often see a fish scale pattern

on hypothyroid

people... I did until I got my thyroid under control. The oils have now totally

removed any trace

of dry skin issues.

" Skin Diseases

The most common skin finding in hypothyroidism is dry, flaky skin. However, skin

disease of almost

any kind should raise suspicion of hypothyroidism. Circulation to the skin is

decreased, as it is

to the rest of the body, and also the production of mucopolysaccharides is

increased dramatically

in the skin. These two factors together predispose the patient to acne,

impetigo, erysipelas,

cellulitis, eczema, psoriasis and ichthyosis (fish scale skin). Often these

conditions are

relieved with thyroid extract. The same is true for the syndrome of " winter

itch, " in which the

skin below the elbows and knees itches severely during the winter. Even some

cases of lupus

involving the skin clear up with thyroid extract, and when they clear up, the

disease does not

progress to systemic involvement of the internal organs. "

http://www.medical-library.net/sites/hypothyroidism.html

http://www.mercola.com/2003/dec/27/dry_skin.htm

--- mem_mem_me <maryellenmu@...> wrote:

> I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> is so out of control.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I was spreading it out 4 times a day. I had to stress dose

almost daily. I am doing the seasalt 2x somtimes 3x a day. My

potassium and sodium, renin, aldosterone and other hormones are okay.

My progesterone was low. Broda Barns Foundations said that medrol

might not be what I need but I don't really want to go on predisone. I

have no weight gain or puffiness in a little over 2 1/2 months. But,

cortef was like a sugar pill after 3 days. I hope to try to go back

to cortef. That is my goal. I just am always feeling like I am

speeding and itching and hyper. I have been doing this since Feb.

What was the thyroid med you were on. I wonder if anyone just cannot

take armour.

Thanks

Ellen

>

> >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...>

>

> >That is where I started was with cortef and it did nothing. At least

> >I am having some ability to funciton on medrol there was none on

> >cortef. I called the Broda Foundation and they said that not

> >everyone does well and cortef and some people need different types of

> >cortisol meds. I am trying to up my amour slowly. After writing this

> >on different forums it seems that itching common. I have really tried

> >so many things that are just not working. On cortef, I could not even

> >raise an 1/8 of gr. of armour

>

> I know this is the third time I've asked the question. But, since the

> quantity of medrol you said you are taking is equivalent to 30 mg of

Cortef,

> how much Cortef were you taking before you switched to Medrol? And

were you

> spreading it out four times a day as suggested by Jeffries

in " Safe

> Uses of Cortisol?

>

> Medrol is a synthetic analog, which means it's not like cortisol, the

> molecules have been changed so the drug companies can patent it.

>

> Medrol or prednisone is like taking Cortef without the salt retaining

> properties, which many with adrenal insufficiency need. So, are you

taking

> a mineralcorticoid in another form?

>

> Maybe it's the lack of sodium retention that causes the itching.

(Assuming

> it's not some kind of parasite or other medical reason.)

>

> Have you had your sodium / potassium levels tested? You have to be in

> pretty bad shape for those to be out of range. Which means they can

cause

> problems before they show up on labs. But, severe adrenal

insufficiency

> would cause low sodium. And since Medrol doesn't provide the sodium

> retention you need, it could cause the same.

>

> Ancient remedy, but it points out low salt levels can cause itching -

>

> http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm

> A hip-bath in salt water was a superb remedy for skin diseases and

itching:

> " This brine - he said - is better than all the health spas arising

out of

> nature. "

>

> Maybe some of that sea salt people are talking about would be

helpful to

> you, but you might still have problems retaining it.

>

> Skipper

>

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Oh, I did start on one drop of lugol's 2 days ago. But have not seen

a change of different symtoms than i have had before.

Ellen

>

> >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...>

>

> >That is where I started was with cortef and it did nothing. At least

> >I am having some ability to funciton on medrol there was none on

> >cortef. I called the Broda Foundation and they said that not

> >everyone does well and cortef and some people need different types of

> >cortisol meds. I am trying to up my amour slowly. After writing this

> >on different forums it seems that itching common. I have really tried

> >so many things that are just not working. On cortef, I could not even

> >raise an 1/8 of gr. of armour

>

> I know this is the third time I've asked the question. But, since the

> quantity of medrol you said you are taking is equivalent to 30 mg of

Cortef,

> how much Cortef were you taking before you switched to Medrol? And

were you

> spreading it out four times a day as suggested by Jeffries

in " Safe

> Uses of Cortisol?

>

> Medrol is a synthetic analog, which means it's not like cortisol, the

> molecules have been changed so the drug companies can patent it.

>

> Medrol or prednisone is like taking Cortef without the salt retaining

> properties, which many with adrenal insufficiency need. So, are you

taking

> a mineralcorticoid in another form?

>

> Maybe it's the lack of sodium retention that causes the itching.

(Assuming

> it's not some kind of parasite or other medical reason.)

>

> Have you had your sodium / potassium levels tested? You have to be in

> pretty bad shape for those to be out of range. Which means they can

cause

> problems before they show up on labs. But, severe adrenal

insufficiency

> would cause low sodium. And since Medrol doesn't provide the sodium

> retention you need, it could cause the same.

>

> Ancient remedy, but it points out low salt levels can cause itching -

>

> http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm

> A hip-bath in salt water was a superb remedy for skin diseases and

itching:

> " This brine - he said - is better than all the health spas arising

out of

> nature. "

>

> Maybe some of that sea salt people are talking about would be

helpful to

> you, but you might still have problems retaining it.

>

> Skipper

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Web site.

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[Guest guest]

I am taking fish oil. How much should I take. Presently taking 2 a

day. I have not skin eruptions. Not too much scaly skin thought. I

think it is internal. No hives or anything.

Thanks

Ellen

>

> > I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> > up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> > and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> > is so out of control.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The important thing it the amount of EPA/DHA in the fish oil. You might be

taking as little as

50mg of EPA. Check the label. Theraputic doses start at 2000mg. Vitamin

shoppe sells mega fish

oil that has 600mg of EPA. I take 4 of those with a teaspoon of Carlsons lemon

Cod Liver

oil...also found at the vitamin shoppe. If you have dry hair, it also works

wonders. That will

get you up to a very good level of omega-3's. Hypo dry skin is an internal

problem.

--- mem_mem_me <maryellenmu@...> wrote:

>

> I am taking fish oil. How much should I take. Presently taking 2 a

> day. I have not skin eruptions. Not too much scaly skin thought. I

> think it is internal. No hives or anything.

>

> Thanks

> Ellen

>

> >

> > > I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> > > up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> > > and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> > > is so out of control.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

mem_mem_me wrote:

> I am having sever itching...uncontrollable...no hives....I have been

> up for days with it. It does not go away. I am taking 6mg of medorl

> and 1 1/2gr armout. Can anyone tell me what they do when the itching

> is so out of control.

>

Caladryl works nicely, for me.

Also Pascalite, either internally or topically.

-- Heidi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had terrible itching for years and years while on synthetics. My skin

itched like crazy. If my husband even touched my back, it would start the

itching, and I would make him stand there and scratch for me ( " you started

it, you finish it! " ) I would lie in bed at night and itch my legs like

crazy. Since I switched to Armour, it has been reduced b y about 95%.

Best,

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~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

purpose of storing dead batteries.~

> I also had such awful itching at night when I went on thyroid meds

> this year that I had difficulty falling asleep. My homeopath gave me

> Rhus Tox and that solved the problem for me. After a while I didn't

> need to take it anymore. I took it at bedtime, as that was the time

> it bothered me the most. Now I sometimes get a little itchyness on

> the insides of my upper arms but I haven't taken the rhus tox in ages.

>

[Guest guest]

I have only been on armour since March. I am hoping eventually that

it stops by taking the armour too. Ellen

>

> I had terrible itching for years and years while on synthetics. My skin

> itched like crazy. If my husband even touched my back, it would

start the

> itching, and I would make him stand there and scratch for me ( " you

started

> it, you finish it! " ) I would lie in bed at night and itch my legs like

> crazy. Since I switched to Armour, it has been reduced b y about 95%.

>

> Best,

>

> Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

> Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com

>

> ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then

> you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~

> ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the

> purpose of storing dead batteries.~

>

>

>

> > I also had such awful itching at night when I went on thyroid meds

> > this year that I had difficulty falling asleep. My homeopath gave me

> > Rhus Tox and that solved the problem for me. After a while I didn't

> > need to take it anymore. I took it at bedtime, as that was the time

> > it bothered me the most. Now I sometimes get a little itchyness on

> > the insides of my upper arms but I haven't taken the rhus tox in ages.

> >

>