Re: blood sugar problems on iodine

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Hello everyone,

I just took 2 days off iodine, because I got the feeling that it was causing

yeast (in the Netherlands). Today, yeast is calmed.

The first time I took iodine I had a severe hypoglycemic reaction (about

3 hours later)

Today when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic reaction (about

2 hours later)

This,

together with the yeast make me think that somehow the iodine supplementation

is changing my sugar metabolism. I’m not diabetic, but before I

went “WAPF” I used to have hypoglycemic symptoms regularly, so

perhaps I was headed there. My brother is a type 1 diabetic.

I eat

balanced meals and snacks which most people might even call on the low carb

side. This morning I had a 2 egg omelette with salami and cheese and a

small kefir smoothie. I was very hungry come lunch and then began with

the trembling, etc. Feel terrible.

Any

thoughts?

[Guest guest]

I am a type II diabetic who controls blood glucose levels thru diet and supplements, but not meds. I check my blood glucose levels daily and have noted no loss in control since I started using Lugol's Iodine daily. Not saying that you are wrong in your assessment. Just saying I noted no problems with Iodine and my blood glucose levels.

Alobar.

On 1/11/07, Cyr <rmcyr@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I just took 2 days off iodine, because I got the feeling that it was causing yeast (in the Netherlands

). Today, yeast is calmed.

The first time I took iodine I had a severe hypoglycemic reaction (about 3 hours later)

Today when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic reaction (about 2 hours later)

This, together with the yeast make me think that somehow the iodine supplementation is changing my sugar metabolism. I'm not diabetic, but before I went "WAPF" I used to have hypoglycemic symptoms regularly, so perhaps I was headed there. My brother is a type 1 diabetic.

I eat balanced meals and snacks which most people might even call on the low carb side. This morning I had a 2 egg omelette with salami and cheese and a small kefir smoothie. I was very hungry come lunch and then began with the trembling, etc. Feel terrible.

Any thoughts?

[Guest guest]

>From: " Cyr " <rmcyr@...>

>Hello everyone,

>

> I just took 2 days off iodine, because I got the feeling that it was

>causing yeast (in the Netherlands). Today, yeast is calmed.

Maybe the yeast was afraid of die-off?

Old home remedy (and Hulda , whom I don't quite understand what she is)

for yeast infection is six drops of Lugol's Solution four times per day for

two weeks.

Skipper

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My blood sugar went nuts when I went from 2 iodoral to 4 iodoral per day.

I had horrible sugar cravings I attributed that to a drop in magnesium.

Don't know if that is right if I took some magnesium when I craved sugar

it helped. I just couldn't take enough magnesium to really control it. I

ended up cheating so much with sweets that my yeast went nuts as well. I

went back to 2 iodoral per day and now after two weeks I feel like I am

back to normal.

Irene

At 09:46 AM 1/11/2007, you wrote:

Hello

everyone,

I

just took 2 days off iodine, because I got the feeling that it was

causing yeast (in the Netherlands). Today, yeast is calmed.

The

first time I took iodine I had a severe hypoglycemic reaction

(about 3 hours later)

Today

when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic reaction

(about 2 hours later)

This, together with the yeast

make me think that somehow the iodine supplementation is changing my

sugar metabolism. I’m not diabetic, but before I went “WAPF” I used

to have hypoglycemic symptoms regularly, so perhaps I was headed

there. My brother is a type 1 diabetic.

I eat balanced meals and

snacks which most people might even call on the low carb side. This

morning I had a 2 egg omelette with salami and cheese and a small kefir

smoothie. I was very hungry come lunch and then began with the

trembling, etc. Feel terrible.

Any thoughts?

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I have always had dry, cracking calloused feet too...but the iodine supplementation

has made a huge difference..my feet look normal for the first time since I was 25 or

so, and I'm 42 now.

I have been using kelp and potassium iodide for about five months now.

I did purchase some iodoral a month ago, and have been using it for

about a week now. Since I started it, I have been really thirsty, and I crave

carbs too late in the day. Only taking two a day for now.

I had noticed that my fibroids were shrinking as well, but in the last few days,

I have begun to feel "full" again in the belly. I will give it another week or two,

but I may just go back to the old routine...I felt better then.

[Guest guest]

Skipper

wrote:

>Maybe the yeast was

afraid of die-off?

>Old home remedy

(and Hulda , whom I don't quite understand what she is)

>for yeast infection

is six drops of Lugol's Solution four times per day for

>two weeks.

Ha

Ha! I can imagine that the iodine I’m taking isn’t ending up anywhere

near the yeasty zone (where maybe it could be of use!) and instead working farther

north, perhaps up to something in my pancreas or adrenals, or even in my

cells and their ability to take up insulin?

Hilda recommends a pretty high dose! Much higher than my little dose. (4

drops/day)

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Irene,

I don’t think I have been craving or eating sweets any more or less than

is my usual, and that isn’t much. But it is interesting that you

think your “blood sugar went nuts”…

I don’t seem to be magnesium

deficient – when I take it I get stiff muscles.

RE: blood sugar

problems on iodine

My blood sugar went nuts when I went from 2 iodoral to

4 iodoral per day. I had horrible sugar cravings I attributed that to a drop in

magnesium. Don't know if that is right if I took some magnesium when I craved

sugar it helped. I just couldn't take enough magnesium to really control it. I

ended up cheating so much with sweets that my yeast went nuts as well. I went

back to 2 iodoral per day and now after two weeks I feel like I am back to

normal.

Irene

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I was eating all the time and really craving carbs which I normally

don't do. I also had dry and cracking skin. That for me is magnesium

deficiency. Taking lots of mag helped just not enough and it was already

giving me the runs so I couldn't take any more. I was miserable. I am

much happier at 2 per day.

Irene

At 11:27 AM 1/11/2007, you wrote:

Irene,

I don’t think I have been craving or eating sweets any more or less than

is my usual, and that isn’t much. But it is interesting that you

think your “blood sugar went nuts”…

I don’t seem to be magnesium deficient –

when I take it I get stiff muscles.

RE: blood sugar problems on iodine

My blood sugar went nuts when I went

from 2 iodoral to 4 iodoral per day. I had horrible sugar cravings I

attributed that to a drop in magnesium. Don't know if that is right if I

took some magnesium when I craved sugar it helped. I just couldn't take

enough magnesium to really control it. I ended up cheating so much with

sweets that my yeast went nuts as well. I went back to 2 iodoral per day

and now after two weeks I feel like I am back to normal.

Irene

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Dr Schachter mentions "helping to regulate blood sugar and prevent and treat diabetes" as possible FUNCTIONS of iodine. He does not elaborate on HOW it might affect blood sugar. Zoe

"The commonly accepted medical opinion is that iodine’s only role in the body is to help make thyroid hormones. Although this is an extremely important function, Abraham demonstrates that the role of iodine in the body goes far beyond its function of making thyroid hormones. Other possible functions include: helping to regulate moods, preventing cancer (especially in breasts, ovaries, uterus, prostate and thyroid gland), preventing and treating fibrocystic breasts in women, helping to regulate blood pressure, helping to regulate blood sugar and prevent and treat diabetes, and helping to prevent abnormal cardiac rhythms."

Iodine: Its Role In Health and Disease. Some New Exciting Concepts

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Interesting. I take chromium but not manganese. I'll have to try

that.

Irene

At 01:14 PM 1/11/2007, you wrote:

Manganese (Mn) is one of the

primary controllers of blood sugar, aided significantly by Chromium

(Cr). Iodine happens to be a Manganese and Chromium antagonist,

meaning it can cause blood sugar to become less regulated (but only in

the case of Mn or Cr deficiency)

Lower your iodine intake and increase your Manganese and Chromium.

Good foods include: oysters, mussels, wheat germ, wheat bran, oat bran,

rice bran, saffron, lima beans, maple syrup, napa cabbage. Once

your blood sugar feels better, then add back in the iodine.

-Lana

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[Guest guest]

I believe it! I've been craving recently too: I ate 2 cups of oat

bran doused in 1/4 cup maple syrup this morning... and then went back

for saffron rice!

-LanaOn 1/11/07, Cyr <rmcyr@...> wrote:

You are

not going to believe this, but I did have an urge to swig some maple syrup

today. Strange for an assistant bee keeper.

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Hello

Lana,

I just looked through

my supplements. I have Chromium Picolinate by Lifetime. Don’t

even remember why I bought it. Would this be a good thing to take?

I took a few drops of liquimins. I

could take a full dose of that… It has all the trace minerals…Maybe

that would be better? .

This makes a lot of

sense… thanks!

Re: blood sugar

problems on iodine

Manganese (Mn) is one of

the primary controllers of blood sugar, aided significantly by Chromium

(Cr). Iodine happens to be a Manganese and Chromium antagonist, meaning

it can cause blood sugar to become less regulated (but only in the case of Mn

or Cr deficiency)

Lower your iodine intake and increase your Manganese and Chromium. Good

foods include: oysters, mussels, wheat germ, wheat bran, oat bran, rice bran,

saffron, lima beans, maple syrup, napa cabbage. Once your blood sugar

feels better, then add back in the iodine.

-Lana

..

[Guest guest]

Do you have any research on this so I can talk to my md about this.

My glucose just went up to 110 (normal is 65-99). I know iodine can

deplete magnesium but I havne't heard of manganese. Thanks so

much....jingles

> Manganese (Mn) is one of the primary controllers of blood sugar,

aided

> significantly by Chromium (Cr). Iodine happens to be a Manganese

and

> Chromium antagonist, meaning it can cause blood sugar to become

less

> regulated (but only in the case of Mn or Cr deficiency)

>

> Lower your iodine intake and increase your Manganese and

Chromium. Good

> foods include: oysters, mussels, wheat germ, wheat bran, oat bran,

rice

> bran, saffron, lima beans, maple syrup, napa cabbage. Once your

blood sugar

> feels better, then add back in the iodine.

>

> -Lana

> .

>

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-LanaOn 1/11/07, groupiestuff <groupiestuff@...> wrote:

Do you have any research on this so I can talk to my md about this.

My glucose just went up to 110 (normal is 65-99). I know iodine can

deplete magnesium but I havne't heard of manganese. Thanks so

much....jingles

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If high iodine raises progesterone, this will foster more

cortisol also, as in GLUCOcorticoid, so blood sugar may go up.

--

A good source of chromium is brewer's yeast (e.g. Labs

Brewers Yeast or Yeast Flakes) - a heaping tablespoon is great

in a smoothie, high in B vitamins and protein too.

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posted by Cyr rmcyr@... :

>The first time I took iodine I had a severe hypoglycemic reaction>(about 3 hours later)>Today when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic reaction>(about 2 hours later)

Hi ,

Have you considered adrenal support? Are you taking Armour? How are you spacing your Iodoral throughout the day? Are you taking it with meals?

Just some thoughts, and I see others have asked same.

Dahlia

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How can I tell from labels which is real raw maple syrup?

On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Lana Gibbons wrote:

> real maple syrup

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,

Are you taking your blood sugar to know if this is truly a

hypoglycemic reaction or judging this from your physical symptoms? My

daughter is a Type 1 diabetic, so I'm going from my experience with

her and iodine, figuring that if it had a drastic effect on blood

sugar it would affect her much quicker than it would someone who is

not diabetic. She's had no problems with iodine affecting her BG.

Linn

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I just took 2 days off iodine, because I got the feeling that

it was

> causing yeast (in the Netherlands). Today, yeast is calmed.

>

> The first time I took iodine I had a severe hypoglycemic reaction

> (about 3 hours later)

>

> Today when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic

reaction

> (about 2 hours later)

>

> This, together with the yeast make me think that somehow the iodine

> supplementation is changing my sugar metabolism. I'm not diabetic, but

> before I went " WAPF " I used to have hypoglycemic symptoms regularly, so

> perhaps I was headed there. My brother is a type 1 diabetic.

>

>

>

> I eat balanced meals and snacks which most people might even call on

the low

> carb side. This morning I had a 2 egg omelette with salami and

cheese and a

> small kefir smoothie. I was very hungry come lunch and then began

with the

> trembling, etc. Feel terrible.

>

>

>

> Any thoughts?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dahlia! I don’t

take Armour, I don’t have any diagnosis or tests. I am only taking

small amounts of Lugols. One drop threw me into a low blood sugar attack

on my first try of Lugols. I took a drop of lugols every other day for a

month after that without any problems. Then, I worked my way slowly up to

4 drops per day. During this time my yeast started getting bad. So

I took 2 days off, and the yeast stabilized.

I took 4 drops yesterday, all at once

(with my usual supplements: Dr. Ron’s raw adrenal, maca, vitamin C, a few

drops of liquimins, a squirt of Apple Cider Vinegar, and all with a chaser of

royal jelly (which contains eluethero and Korean ginseng, which are adrenal herbs)

and coconut oil. I took it on an empty stomach mid morning. The low

blood sugar started at lunch.

I’m heavy on adrenal and hormonal

symptoms. My family seems to turn out people like me. Skinny, cold,

allergic, unbalanced hormones…I tossed around all night with a pounding

heart. Feel ok today.

I’ve got my husband on lugols too,

and he had a “panic attack” at a New Years Eve party (felt

squeezed across the chest). That makes me think low blood sugar reaction

too…though he disagrees and says he had eaten some food before it

happened. I thought of that last night and wondered if it needed to

be thrown into the discussion as a clue.

I cook many of our meals in cast iron and

I wonder if that effects our mineral balance.

Re: blood sugar

problems on iodine

posted by Cyr rmcyrcharter (DOT) net :

>The first time I took iodine I had a severe

hypoglycemic reaction

>(about 3 hours later)

>Today when I returned to iodine I had a moderate hypoglycemic reaction

>(about 2 hours later)

Hi ,

Have you considered adrenal support? Are you taking

Armour? How are you spacing your Iodoral throughout the day? Are you taking it

with meals?

Just some thoughts, and I see others have asked same.

Dahlia

[Guest guest]

No, I’m

not diabetic and I have no gear to take blood sugar tests, though I could have

my type 1 brother test me if he is around next time it happens. I used to

have lots of problems with the blood sugar roller coaster before going WAPF…

Work in the garden all morning, start feeling shaky, stand up and be all dizzy…Go

to the house and eat the first sweet thing to hand, sit down and wait for it to

take effect…

These reactions I’m getting from

iodine are similar to this, although more severe and slower to correct and

leave me tired and weak.

Its weird. Also, I’ve taken

kelp for years without a problem.

Re: blood sugar

problems on iodine

,

Are you taking your blood sugar to know if this is truly a

hypoglycemic reaction or judging this from your physical symptoms? My

daughter is a Type 1 diabetic, so I'm going from my experience with

her and iodine, figuring that if it had a drastic effect on blood

sugar it would affect her much quicker than it would someone who is

not diabetic. She's had no problems with iodine affecting her BG.

Linn

[Guest guest]

>From: " Cyr " <rmcyr@...>

>Hi Dahlia! I don't take Armour, I don't have any diagnosis or tests. I am

>only taking small amounts of Lugols. One drop threw me into a low blood

>sugar attack on my first try of Lugols. I took a drop of lugols every

>other

>day for a month after that without any problems. Then, I worked my way

>slowly up to 4 drops per day. During this time my yeast started getting

>bad. So I took 2 days off, and the yeast stabilized.

That would be shaking and dizziness?

>

>

>

>I took 4 drops yesterday, all at once (with my usual supplements: Dr. Ron's

>raw adrenal, maca, vitamin C, a few drops of liquimins, a squirt of Apple

>Cider Vinegar, and all with a chaser of royal jelly (which contains

>eluethero and Korean ginseng, which are adrenal herbs) and coconut oil. I

>took it on an empty stomach mid morning.

Mid-morning and you hadn't eaten yet? Bad pattern for low adrenals or high.

I think in " Adrenal Fatigue " says we should eat something high in

protein (and not potassium) shortly after getting up. For those with high

cortisol (they shake too, but don't think they get dizzy) it helps lower the

cortisol level a bit.

Not a surprise that someone not eating until lunch would have problems.

I tried taking ACV with raw honey and Lugol's Solution for a while, and did

not feel well. A year later I read " Adrenal Fatigue " which explained that

high potassium can cause problems in people with low adrenals. That

explained why the old tonic didn't work for me. Too much potassium is bad

if you suspect low adrenals. I'm assuming if you do think you have low

adrenals, you get plenty of salt?

>I'm heavy on adrenal and hormonal symptoms.

Skinny can be either adrenal or thyroid. Most hypothyroids are fat. But,

it can also cause anorexia. My son was that way. He could hardly eat at

all until he went on Armour, and he was emaciated as one would expect from

little food. Even took him to a psychiatrist.

My family seems to turn out

>people like me. Skinny, cold, allergic, unbalanced hormones.I tossed

>around

>all night with a pounding heart. Feel ok today.

Pounding heart can be either thyroid or adrenal. Have you had thyroid

tests?

>

>I cook many of our meals in cast iron and I wonder if that effects our

>mineral balance.

I don't know why that would be a problem unless you have excessive iron?

Ever have ferritin, iron, hemocrit and hemoglobin tested to make sure you're

not anemic? That would cause the issues you mentioned.

I see a lot of over emphasis on thyroid groups about iron. Your status

doesn't matter unless it's high, which can do a lot of damage, or unless

your hemoglobin / hemocrit are low, in which case you really do have anemia.

Many take for granted when they see anemia, it's iron deficiency but

that's wrong, unless iron/ferritin actually test out low.

Cast iron is good, makes the food taste better, and is easy to clean up if

done properly. (After removing food, use a scrub brush with very hot water,

no soap.) It's certainly safer than " diamonds " or other teflon surface. I

saw a show once that said don't cook with teflon near expensive pet birds.

If the teflon burns a little, the bird can die from fluoride poisoning.

Skipper

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[Guest guest]

Usually the fake stuff says " immitation " on it. Just flip it over, the ingredients should read maple syrup and nothing else. The fake stuff will have high fructose corn syrup, cane sugar, carmel color, artificial flavor, etc.

-LanaOn 1/12/07, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote:

How can I tell from labels which is real raw maple syrup?

[Guest guest]

sounds like you need thyroid/adrenal meds.

Gracia

No, I’m not diabetic and I have no gear to take blood sugar tests, though I could have my type 1 brother test me if he is around next time it happens. I used to have lots of problems with the blood sugar roller coaster before going WAPF… Work in the garden all morning, start feeling shaky, stand up and be all dizzy…Go to the house and eat the first sweet thing to hand, sit down and wait for it to take effect…

These reactions I’m getting from iodine are similar to this, although more severe and slower to correct and leave me tired and weak.

Its weird. Also, I’ve taken kelp for years without a problem.

-----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of mwm1glmSent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:45 AMiodine Subject: Re: blood sugar problems on iodine

,Are you taking your blood sugar to know if this is truly ahypoglycemic reaction or judging this from your physical symptoms? Mydaughter is a Type 1 diabetic, so I'm going from my experience withher and iodine, figuring that if it had a drastic effect on bloodsugar it would affect her much quicker than it would someone who isnot diabetic. She's had no problems with iodine affecting her BG. Linn

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> A few hours later I got hungry and then I started to shake and I

felt a

> breathless roller coaster feeling and the heart pounded and a

weakness came

> over me. No dizziness. In both cases eating helped, but didn't

stop me

> from feeling exhausted for the rest of the day.

Whenever I feel like that it is always adrenal stress. With regular

low sugar, I recover pretty easily with food. But with adrenal low

blood sugar, it can take several hours or longer to feel good.

> And, as I upped my dose my yeast got out of balance, which makes me

think my

> blood sugar levels were generally higher than normal.

I find this really interesting, that your blood sugar problems

coincide with your yeast problems. Is it possible that the yeast is

actually causing the blood sugar problem, as opposed to the sugar

causing the yeast problem? I wonder because iodine has been mentioned

as a treatment for yeast, and I know when yeast get 'treated' they

tend to get desperate and cause things like cravings, etc.

Best wishes,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Will you please

elucidate? Thanks!

Re: blood sugar

problems on iodine

,

Are you taking your blood sugar to know if this is truly a

hypoglycemic reaction or judging this from your physical symptoms? My

daughter is a Type 1 diabetic, so I'm going from my experience with

her and iodine, figuring that if it had a drastic effect on blood

sugar it would affect her much quicker than it would someone who is

not diabetic. She's had no problems with iodine affecting her BG.

Linn