Re: iodine and acne

[Guest guest]

, interesting find. The information we've had on iodine before stressed how it is beneficial for the skin. I've started a new folder under skin for arguments that iodine is harmful for the skin.

I tried to track down the basis for the article you mentioned, but the sources I found listed only the citations, not even an abstract.

If anyone finds any good research on iodine and the skin (pro or con) send me the links. At the moment, we have very little on iodine and the skin.

It will be a difficult area to figure out since one of the toxic effects of iodine can be a skin rash. So dose will probably be critical. Detox effects can also cause skin reactions. On the other side, Derry (and others) reports the use of iodine to heal various skin conditions.

Zoe

The following article posits the connection between dairyand acne is based on its high iodine content:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051207181144.htm-

[Guest guest]

Very interesting. ""It has been well-established since the 1960s that iodine intake can exacerbate acne," said Arbesman."

I wonder if anyone can find this original study and evaluate whether it is really "well-established".

Zoe

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From: cindi22595 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=34698

[Guest guest]

Haven't found that one yet...but here is one from 1938.

look on the page # 259/left column

http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/pagerender.fcgi?

artid=538466 & pageindex=1#page

cindi

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> Very interesting. " " It has been well-established since the 1960s

that iodine intake can exacerbate acne, " said Arbesman. "

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> I wonder if anyone can find this original study and evaluate whether

it is really " well-established " .

[Guest guest]

This is interesting 'cause right now iodine is the ONLY thing that has

made a difference to my son's cystic acne. He's allergic to dairy &

soy so those components are not in his diet. We have tried everything

(except Accutane!) for his face & iodine is the ONLY thing that has

given him substantial improvement!!

I wonder if this " well-established " thought was tied into some

dermatological wonder discovery in the 1960's?????

K

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> Very interesting. " " It has been well-established since the 1960s

that iodine intake can exacerbate acne, " said Arbesman. "

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> I wonder if anyone can find this original study and evaluate whether

it is really " well-established " .

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> Zoe

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cindi22595

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> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=34698

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[Guest guest]

does he paint it on like this girl writes about?

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/acne2.html

cindi

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> This is interesting 'cause right now iodine is the ONLY thing that has

> made a difference to my son's cystic acne. He's allergic to dairy &

> soy so those components are not in his diet. We have tried everything

> (except Accutane!) for his face & iodine is the ONLY thing that has

> given him substantial improvement!!

[Guest guest]

Cindi, thanks for your interesting URLs. I've been adding them to our links section. For example, I've added your skin and iodine links here:

Links > 21 How Iodine Affects the Body > Skin

iodine/links/How_Iodine_Affects_t_001138666832/Skin_001138669297/

Zoe

does he paint it on like this girl writes about?http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/acne2.htmlcindi

[Guest guest]

He paints it on directly to the acne - he usually rotates around his

face - one day the chin area, the next the forehead etc., but it goes

directly onto the cyctic acne and it has made a huge difference!

K

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> does he paint it on like this girl writes about?

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> http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/acne2.html

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> cindi

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[Guest guest]

I don't have the study mentioned below, but here are a couple of

interesting links

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.htm this one has some

thyroid info, and some info about iodine in the american diet.

http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/guesswho.htm info on iodine and acne

sol

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> Very interesting. " " It has been well-established since the 1960s

that iodine intake can exacerbate acne, " said Arbesman. "

>

> I wonder if anyone can find this original study and evaluate whether

it is really " well-established " .

>

[Guest guest]

wow. that's great. I'm glad he's found something that is helping that

much! for sure safer than accutane.

cindi

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> He paints it on directly to the acne - he usually rotates around his

> face - one day the chin area, the next the forehead etc., but it goes

> directly onto the cyctic acne and it has made a huge difference!

[Guest guest]

>From: " emugirls " <emugirls@...>

>He paints it on directly to the acne - he usually rotates around his

>face - one day the chin area, the next the forehead etc., but it goes

>directly onto the cyctic acne and it has made a huge difference!

>K

Are you giving him cod liver oil too?

Accutane is dangerous. However, it works because it's a form of Vitamin A.

CLO is a good source of Vitamin A, and other good nutrients.

Skipper

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[Guest guest]

I have a couple of friends kids that have had good results with neem

oil for acne and skin conditions as well. jingles

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> He paints it on directly to the acne - he usually rotates around his

> face - one day the chin area, the next the forehead etc., but it goes

> directly onto the cyctic acne and it has made a huge difference!

> K

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> > does he paint it on like this girl writes about?

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> > http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/acne2.html

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> > cindi

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[Guest guest]

emugirls wrote:

> This is interesting 'cause right now iodine is the ONLY thing that has

> made a difference to my son's cystic acne. He's allergic to dairy &

> soy so those components are not in his diet. We have tried everything

> (except Accutane!) for his face & iodine is the ONLY thing that has

> given him substantial improvement!!

>

> I wonder if this " well-established " thought was tied into some

> dermatological wonder discovery in the 1960's?????

>

I believe where this came from is the " iodine acne " happens among Japanese

fishermen " because of the seaweed intake " . But it's not universal, and

a lot of Japanese fishermen eat a lot of seaweed with no symptoms.

And .... Japanese in general eat a lot of seaweed ... and therefore

have a lot higher iodine intake ... and they don't have more acne.

Only in some isolated cases.

My personal take is that it might be related to bromine. Bromine IS noted

for being related to acne ... and get this ... *some* species of seaweed

are high in bromine, but not all. Acne in the US has been linked to

" carb intake " ...

meaning, usually, *bread* ... which might have high bromine too (tho

wheat gluten is also a common contributor to skin breakouts in general,

as is casein, so pizza could be very, very bad for acne. OTOH bromine is

used

in both cleaning cow udders and making bread, so who knows).

To the extent that bromine is displaced by iodine, taking iodine

might cause an acne breakout, in that case. Topical iodine wouldn't

have that effect though, so it could work fine for the teenager.

Since most of the acne medications are basically antibiotics, I

can't see why iodine wouldn't work (and there seem to be a lot

of people using it that way).

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]



Iodine and acne are tied but from what I am seeing it is bromide coming out through the skin. Another issue with acne (cause) is toxic liver. My ND detoxes teens with high doses of Vit A and that clears their liver and gets rid of the acne. I think the reason we have more here is because our controls on toxic chemicals and food additives are weaker than in European countries. Europe is however seeing a rise in hashimotos which is linked to low iodine.

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Iodine and acne

Any comments on this? I know a couple people (women) that avoid iodine like the plague because of this book. They even use un-iodized salt.

From Doctor Fulton's (biochemist and board certified Cosmetic Surgeon and Dermatologist) book "Acne Rx":"Excessive, long term ingesting of iodide (also know as iodine in drugs or food) can flare acne. Once iodide enters the body and mixes into the bloodstream, the excess is excreted through the oil glands. As it is excreted, it irritates the pores and causes acne flare-ups.Iodide is especially irritating to the susceptible pores in acne prone persons. Large enough amounts can induce acne in anyone. It’s so potent and acnegen that skin researchers will use a few drops of potassium iodide on the skin in order to create acne in just one week’s time on a test subject. The eruptions become inflammatory very quickly. In persons with existing acne, such eruptions occur much more rapidly and intensely than in non-acne-prone individuals when the flare-up joins already diseased skin.In order to reduce your iodide ingestion you must learn to recognize the hidden sources in your diet.In salt: Years ago nutritionists feared that average American diets lacked adequate iodine, particularly in the Midwest where less seafood is consumed. They wanted to reduce the incident of goiter, which is the result of iodine deficiency. Therefore, iodine was added to table salt. Since this fortified salt is used in all types of cooking and food preparation, there is a good likelihood of “iodide overload.†I feel the situation needs to be carefully re-evaluated. Europeans put only one tenth the amount of iodine in their table salt and find it sufficient to counter goiter. One wonders if iodine overload is why we see more acne in America than in Europe when our genetic vulnerability to acne appears to be no greater.In seafood: It is generally believed that all seafood is high in iodine. That’s not true. Our tests reveal seafood such as shrimp, sole, red snapper, and shark may be quite low while other seafood such as kelp have high levels. I recommend that acne-prone persons stay away from kelp totally. Watch for kelp as an additive to vitamin and mineral pills and certain health foods. The practice of sprinkling food with kelp, popular with some health-food advocated, is likely to be excessive.Iodide occurs naturally in certain fresh vegetables and fruits (onions, asparagus, and wheat germ). However, where the vegetables come from is perhaps more important that what they are. Those grown in iodide-laden soils such as California and Florida, will have a higher content than vegetables grown in Midwestern soil."

[Guest guest]

Hmmm.....

Re: Iodine and acne

Yet thyroid conditions are becoming diagnosed in epidemic proportions.I will take Acne over thyroid illness anyday. LOL Here's a goodarticle about our poor iodine source. Melodyhttp://www.webmd. com/food- recipes/news/ 20080201/ can-us-shake- iodine-deficienc y-riskOn Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <kennio (DOT) com> wrote:>>> Any comments on this? I know a couple people (women) that avoid iodine like> the plague because of this book. They even use un-iodized salt.> From Doctor Fulton's (biochemist and board certified Cosmetic Surgeon> and Dermatologist) book "Acne Rx":

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Is the Vitamin A water soluable? Or the betacarotene type? Many thanks. CeceFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and acneiodine Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:06 PM



Iodine and acne are tied but from what I am seeing it is bromide coming out through the skin. Another issue with acne (cause) is toxic liver. My ND detoxes teens with high doses of Vit A and that clears their liver and gets rid of the acne. I think the reason we have more here is because our controls on toxic chemicals and food additives are weaker than in European countries. Europe is however seeing a rise in hashimotos which is linked to low iodine.

'

Iodine and acne

Any comments on this? I know a couple people (women) that avoid iodine like the plague because of this book. They even use un-iodized salt.

From Doctor Fulton's (biochemist and board certified Cosmetic Surgeon and Dermatologist) book "Acne Rx":"Excessive, long term ingesting of iodide (also know as iodine in drugs or food) can flare acne. Once iodide enters the body and mixes into the bloodstream, the excess is excreted through the oil glands. As it is excreted, it irritates the pores and causes acne flare-ups.Iodide is especially irritating to the susceptible pores in acne prone persons. Large enough amounts can induce acne in anyone. It’s so potent and acnegen that skin researchers will use a few drops of potassium iodide on the skin in order to create acne in just one week’s time on a test subject. The eruptions become inflammatory very quickly. In persons with existing acne, such eruptions occur much more rapidly and intensely than in non-acne-prone individuals when the flare-up joins already diseased skin.In order to reduce your iodide ingestion you must learn to recognize the hidden sources in your diet.In salt: Years ago nutritionists feared that average American diets lacked adequate iodine, particularly in the Midwest where less seafood is consumed. They wanted to reduce the incident of goiter, which is the result of iodine deficiency. Therefore, iodine was added to table salt. Since this fortified salt is used in all types of cooking and food preparation, there is a good likelihood of “iodide overload.†I feel the situation needs to be carefully re-evaluated. Europeans put only one tenth the amount of iodine in their table salt and find it sufficient to counter goiter. One wonders if iodine overload is why we see more acne in America than in Europe when our genetic vulnerability to acne appears to be no greater.In seafood: It is generally believed that all seafood is high in iodine. That’s not true. Our tests reveal seafood such as shrimp, sole, red snapper, and shark may be quite low while other seafood such as kelp have high levels. I recommend that acne-prone persons stay away from kelp totally. Watch for kelp as an additive to vitamin and mineral pills and certain health foods. The practice of sprinkling food with kelp, popular with some health-food advocated, is likely to be excessive.Iodide occurs naturally in certain fresh vegetables and fruits (onions, asparagus, and wheat germ). However, where the vegetables come from is perhaps more important that what they are. Those grown in iodide-laden soils such as California and Florida, will have a higher content than vegetables grown in Midwestern soil."

[Guest guest]



Honestly I don't know what he uses. My Dr. uses Kroeger Herbs Sunny A.

Steph

Iodine and acne

Any comments on this? I know a couple people (women) that avoid iodine like the plague because of this book. They even use un-iodized salt.

From Doctor Fulton's (biochemist and board certified Cosmetic Surgeon and Dermatologist) book "Acne Rx":"Excessive, long term ingesting of iodide (also know as iodine in drugs or food) can flare acne. Once iodide enters the body and mixes into the bloodstream, the excess is excreted through the oil glands. As it is excreted, it irritates the pores and causes acne flare-ups.Iodide is especially irritating to the susceptible pores in acne prone persons. Large enough amounts can induce acne in anyone. It’s so potent and acnegen that skin researchers will use a few drops of potassium iodide on the skin in order to create acne in just one week’s time on a test subject. The eruptions become inflammatory very quickly. In persons with existing acne, such eruptions occur much more rapidly and intensely than in non-acne-prone individuals when the flare-up joins already diseased skin.In order to reduce your iodide ingestion you must learn to recognize the hidden sources in your diet.In salt: Years ago nutritionists feared that average American diets lacked adequate iodine, particularly in the Midwest where less seafood is consumed. They wanted to reduce the incident of goiter, which is the result of iodine deficiency. Therefore, iodine was added to table salt. Since this fortified salt is used in all types of cooking and food preparation, there is a good likelihood of “iodide overload.†I feel the situation needs to be carefully re-evaluated. Europeans put only one tenth the amount of iodine in their table salt and find it sufficient to counter goiter. One wonders if iodine overload is why we see more acne in America than in Europe when our genetic vulnerability to acne appears to be no greater.In seafood: It is generally believed that all seafood is high in iodine. That’s not true. Our tests reveal seafood such as shrimp, sole, red snapper, and shark may be quite low while other seafood such as kelp have high levels. I recommend that acne-prone persons stay away from kelp totally. Watch for kelp as an additive to vitamin and mineral pills and certain health foods. The practice of sprinkling food with kelp, popular with some health-food advocated, is likely to be excessive.Iodide occurs naturally in certain fresh vegetables and fruits (onions, asparagus, and wheat germ). However, where the vegetables come from is perhaps more important that what they are. Those grown in iodide-laden soils such as California and Florida, will have a higher content than vegetables grown in Midwestern soil."