Re: iodine effects on cortisol

[Guest guest]

if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes

the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly

supported. Iodine may help hormones to bind to receptors meaning it

may increase free levels of hormones in the body making them more

bioavaialble

>

> What effect does iodine have on cortisol production (if any) and

cortisol receptors?

>

> I see there is a 2 hour audio with Dr. Flechas here

http://iodine4health.com/body/hormones/flechas_hormones.htm where he

talks about the effects of iodine on receptors. I don't have time to

listen to it right now.

>

> I am wondering if iodine can increase either cortisol production or

the sensitivity of receptors to cortisol, leading to high nighttime

cortisol levels, thus insomnia.

>

> Thanks!

>

> -Olif

>

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hardasnails1973:

"if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly supported."

Thanks! I think this is why I wasn't tolerating iodine a few months ago. As I am starting Armour, I am noticing the same thing. I need to start VERY small, even though I am now supported with HC.

-Olif

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I started immediately with one grain and gradually worked my way up to three,

which is when I felt my best. Then I took the Iodine Loading test, which showed

me at only 45% excretion, so I started taking two Iodoral per day. Since

starting it I've never felt as well as I had on just the Armour.

My adrenals weren't too bad according to the Diagnos Techs saliva test, so for a

while I treated them with Licorice Root and adrenal cortex. I got tired of

taking so many pills so stopped everything except for the Armour and Iodoral.

Big mistake! I felt more hypo than ever. The doctor started me on some Cortef

and lowered the Armour to 2 3/4 grains. I stopped the Iodoral for a few weeks

but I've started taking one a day. And I sneak in the adrenal cortex from the

Vitamin Shoppe.

On Tuesday, May 08, 2007, at 08:17AM, " Olif " <OVanPelt@...> wrote:

>hardasnails1973:

> " if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes

>the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly

>supported. "

>

>Thanks! I think this is why I wasn't tolerating iodine a few months ago. As I

am starting Armour, I am noticing the same thing. I need to start VERY small,

even though I am now supported with HC.

>

>-Olif

>

[Guest guest]

if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly supported.

so brilliantly said and so important of a truth to precaution that I included it in my medical review. Thanks!

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I could never take more than 90mg Armour until I got cortef 5mg 4X a day AND high dose sex hormones. Now on 50mg Iodoral, no problem.

Gracia

hardasnails1973:

"if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly supported."

Thanks! I think this is why I wasn't tolerating iodine a few months ago. As I am starting Armour, I am noticing the same thing. I need to start VERY small, even though I am now supported with HC.

-Olif

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>

> I started immediately with one grain and gradually worked my way up to three,

which is

when I felt my best. Then I took the Iodine Loading test, which showed me at

only 45%

excretion, so I started taking two Iodoral per day. Since starting it I've never

felt as well as I

had on just the Armour.

>

I felt much better before I tried Iodoral for a month, only one tablet per day.

I had gone into

the MD hoping for some Armour, and at his suggestion I decided to try Iodoral

first. I'm not

sure what was thrown off in my body, but I feel that month on Iodoral was a big

setback.

I'm off the Iodoral now, and just started Armour last Saturday. I'd be willing

to consider

supplementing with a low dose of Iodoral or Lugol's in the future, but I'd like

to get to a

happy place with the Armour first.

[Guest guest]

hardasnails1973:"if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it pushes the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly supported."

This is what I first experienced with trying iodine.

I just started Armour at 1/4 grain (am now on 25 mg HC for stage 5 AF). My adrenals had to adjust to even this tiny amount of Armour.

I want to start iodine simultaneously with the Armour. Brownstein says that Armour (or thyroid hormone) alone, without iodine, can increase an iodine deficient state. I haven't taken the loading test yet, because I am hesitant to take that large amount of iodine at once. I do have a hair mineral analysis showing almost no iodine. I am not sure how accurate that is for iodine status.

My plan is to try a drop of Lugol's once every 3 days to see how it goes. If it is rough, I will try once a week or something. If it goes okay, I will slowly try to increase.

I am wondering if it would make sense to take my iodine at the same time as an HC dose or in between HC doses. Since I am unsure exactly how they are interacting, I am unsure which makes more sense.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

I am also attending a seminar by Dr. Brownstein tomorrow! :-) I am hoping to get his opinion on starting iodine with weak adrenals.

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

I would take it along with HC because HC you can feel in a matter of

15 minutes and depending on your stomach acids iodine may take longer

but atleast you will have the HC in your system so you can tolerate

it. I am scared to do the iodine test, but it will be well worth

it. just 12.5 mgs a day my tongue gets coated and I get severly

constipated. Hair if not washed then yes they can give a nice

clincal picture of what is really going on at tissue level. Depends

on where you get it from..I stick with ARL hair anaylsis which your

dr can order for 80 bucks and using the standard procedure for hair

analiysis (do not wash hair sample) this was never the orginal

method..

>

> hardasnails1973:

> " if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it

pushes

> the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly

> supported. "

>

> This is what I first experienced with trying iodine.

>

> I just started Armour at 1/4 grain (am now on 25 mg HC for stage 5

AF). My adrenals had to adjust to even this tiny amount of Armour.

>

> I want to start iodine simultaneously with the Armour. Brownstein

says that Armour (or thyroid hormone) alone, without iodine, can

increase an iodine deficient state. I haven't taken the loading test

yet, because I am hesitant to take that large amount of iodine at

once. I do have a hair mineral analysis showing almost no iodine. I

am not sure how accurate that is for iodine status.

>

> My plan is to try a drop of Lugol's once every 3 days to see how it

goes. If it is rough, I will try once a week or something. If it goes

okay, I will slowly try to increase.

>

> I am wondering if it would make sense to take my iodine at the same

time as an HC dose or in between HC doses. Since I am unsure exactly

how they are interacting, I am unsure which makes more sense.

>

> Any help is greatly appreciated!

>

> I am also attending a seminar by Dr. Brownstein tomorrow! :-) I am

hoping to get his opinion on starting iodine with weak adrenals.

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

[Guest guest]

I think my orginal statement sums it up very nicely and easily

understandable. I have wilsons syndrome which make my problem more

of a challenge and I had to resarch everything my self so it took me

3 years to full undestand the endocrine system better then most ND's

>

> hardasnails1973:

> " if a person with adrenal fatgue takes iodine too fast then it

pushes

> the thyroid to hard and will crash the adrenals if not properly

> supported. "

>

> This is what I first experienced with trying iodine.

>

> I just started Armour at 1/4 grain (am now on 25 mg HC for stage 5

AF). My adrenals had to adjust to even this tiny amount of Armour.

>

> I want to start iodine simultaneously with the Armour. Brownstein

says that Armour (or thyroid hormone) alone, without iodine, can

increase an iodine deficient state. I haven't taken the loading test

yet, because I am hesitant to take that large amount of iodine at

once. I do have a hair mineral analysis showing almost no iodine. I

am not sure how accurate that is for iodine status.

>

> My plan is to try a drop of Lugol's once every 3 days to see how it

goes. If it is rough, I will try once a week or something. If it goes

okay, I will slowly try to increase.

>

> I am wondering if it would make sense to take my iodine at the same

time as an HC dose or in between HC doses. Since I am unsure exactly

how they are interacting, I am unsure which makes more sense.

>

> Any help is greatly appreciated!

>

> I am also attending a seminar by Dr. Brownstein tomorrow! :-) I am

hoping to get his opinion on starting iodine with weak adrenals.

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

[Guest guest]

hardasnails1973:

"I would take it along with HC because HC you can feel in a matter of 15 minutes and depending on your stomach acids iodine may take longer but atleast you will have the HC in your system so you can tolerate it. "

Thanks, I did this yesterday, and I felt wonderful! I intended to try it every few days, but after feeling so good yesterday, it was too difficult not to do it today as well. So far, I feel amazing today too! Hopefully with the HC, my adrenals will hold up. I will stick with one drop/day and try to increase in a week or two if all goes well.

"I am scared to do the iodine test, but it will be well worth it."

Me too. I will work my way up slowly with the iodine. If I seem to do okay on higher doses, I will consider the loading test. I actually have the test kit here.

Thanks!

-Olif

[Guest guest]

Right now I am building my flora up with floraQ and getting body

ready with 15 mgs of HC a day before starting the loading phase as a

precuation. I know its one day for the test but it could mean 4-5

days of being in bed from detoxifcationfrom bromide and also mercury

in me. I am also waiting to see where my estrogen levels are at on

blood test because if they are low then taking iodine will drive them

even lower due to its effects of estrogen metabolsim and this can

cause even more constipation due to lack of serotonin..

>

> hardasnails1973:

> " I would take it along with HC because HC you can feel in a matter

of

> 15 minutes and depending on your stomach acids iodine may take

longer

> but atleast you will have the HC in your system so you can tolerate

> it. "

>

> Thanks, I did this yesterday, and I felt wonderful! I intended to

try it every few days, but after feeling so good yesterday, it was

too difficult not to do it today as well. So far, I feel amazing

today too! Hopefully with the HC, my adrenals will hold up. I will

stick with one drop/day and try to increase in a week or two if all

goes well.

>

> " I am scared to do the iodine test, but it will be well worth

> it. "

>

> Me too. I will work my way up slowly with the iodine. If I seem to

do okay on higher doses, I will consider the loading test. I actually

have the test kit here.

>

> Thanks!

>

> -Olif

>

[Guest guest]

In all of your researching, what are your thoughts on Saliva Testing

for hormones? Thank you

Kathleen

> >

> > hardasnails1973:

> > " I would take it along with HC because HC you can feel in a

matter

> of

> > 15 minutes and depending on your stomach acids iodine may take

> longer

> > but atleast you will have the HC in your system so you can

tolerate

> > it. "

> >

> > Thanks, I did this yesterday, and I felt wonderful! I intended to

> try it every few days, but after feeling so good yesterday, it was

> too difficult not to do it today as well. So far, I feel amazing

> today too! Hopefully with the HC, my adrenals will hold up. I will

> stick with one drop/day and try to increase in a week or two if all

> goes well.

> >

> > " I am scared to do the iodine test, but it will be well worth

> > it. "

> >

> > Me too. I will work my way up slowly with the iodine. If I seem

to

> do okay on higher doses, I will consider the loading test. I

actually

> have the test kit here.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > -Olif

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cortisol is really only proven and medically accepted method verifed

by salvia testing. Even though thyroid and testosterone, estrogen,

progesterone may be accurate in salvia, but results are not always

consistamt. Other hormones are more medically excepted via blood or

24 hour urine with greater accuracy. Urine is actually cheaper then

blood plus it gives a 24 hour picture of total levels not like space

and time as salvia/ serum does.

> > >

> > > hardasnails1973:

> > > " I would take it along with HC because HC you can feel in a

> matter

> > of

> > > 15 minutes and depending on your stomach acids iodine may take

> > longer

> > > but atleast you will have the HC in your system so you can

> tolerate

> > > it. "

> > >

> > > Thanks, I did this yesterday, and I felt wonderful! I intended

to

> > try it every few days, but after feeling so good yesterday, it

was

> > too difficult not to do it today as well. So far, I feel amazing

> > today too! Hopefully with the HC, my adrenals will hold up. I

will

> > stick with one drop/day and try to increase in a week or two if

all

> > goes well.

> > >

> > > " I am scared to do the iodine test, but it will be well worth

> > > it. "

> > >

> > > Me too. I will work my way up slowly with the iodine. If I seem

> to

> > do okay on higher doses, I will consider the loading test. I

> actually

> > have the test kit here.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > -Olif

> > >

> >

>