Re: Dosing Iodine with HC, Thyroid-S and Supplements

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What I did was start with 1 drop, increased to 2 drops after 5 days,

then increased by 2 more drops each 5 days until I reached 8.

See how you feel after each increase and adjust back down if you get

side effects. My only side effect was mild chest pimpling, which I

atrributed to a de-toxing effect. Split your total into two daily

dosings, as iodine has a short half-life.

You may want to increase your selenium supplementation as you

increase your iodine, to keep the two in ratio. New research is

showing that imbalances in the SE/I ratio will affect your thyroid,

just as deficiencies do. I did a bunch of posts on that a few days

ago.

HTH,

>

> My Lugol's will arrive soon and I am in need of instruction

regarding dosing.

>

> This is what I'm doing presently:

>

> 7:30 HC and morning supplements: Selenium, Vit. E, DHEA, Digestive

Enzymes, Probiotics, subingual B Complex, Glutamine, Maca, Fish Oil

>

> 8:30 Thyroid-S

>

> 11:30 HC

>

> 2:30 Another B Complex, Sea Salt

>

> 4:30 HC

>

> 8:30 Sea Salt and evening supplements: Digestive Enzymes,

Probiotics, Calcium, Magnesium, Camu (to be added shortly)

>

> I'll be adding another dose of Thyroid-S at 2:30 after I ramp up a

bit. Right now one does is it for the day.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks much,

>

>

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I've been told that oils should not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less likely to dissolve. I

take the oils closer to a meal.

--- Whitmore <phonicity@...> wrote:

> My Lugol's will arrive soon and I am in need of instruction regarding dosing.

>

> This is what I'm doing presently:

>

> 7:30 HC and morning supplements: Selenium, Vit. E, DHEA, Digestive Enzymes,

> Probiotics, subingual B Complex, Glutamine, Maca, Fish Oil

>

> 8:30 Thyroid-S

>

> 11:30 HC

>

> 2:30 Another B Complex, Sea Salt

>

> 4:30 HC

>

> 8:30 Sea Salt and evening supplements: Digestive Enzymes, Probiotics,

> Calcium, Magnesium, Camu (to be added shortly)

>

> I'll be adding another dose of Thyroid-S at 2:30 after I ramp up a bit.

> Right now one does is it for the day.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thanks much,

>

>

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Yes it does help! Thanks so much, .One more question, so thyroid hormone and HC don't have to be separated from iodine?jtb14789 <jtb14789@...> wrote: What I did was start with 1 drop, increased to 2 drops after 5 days, then increased by 2 more drops each 5 days until I reached 8. See how you feel after each increase and adjust back down if you get side effects. My only side effect was mild chest pimpling, which I atrributed to a de-toxing effect. Split your total into two daily dosings, as iodine has a short half-life.You may want to increase your selenium supplementation as you increase your iodine, to keep the two in ratio. New research is showing that imbalances in the SE/I ratio will affect your thyroid, just as deficiencies do. I did a bunch of posts

on that a few days ago. HTH,>> My Lugol's will arrive soon and I am in need of instruction regarding dosing.> > This is what I'm doing presently:> > 7:30 HC and morning supplements: Selenium, Vit. E, DHEA, Digestive Enzymes, Probiotics, subingual B Complex, Glutamine, Maca, Fish Oil> > 8:30 Thyroid-S> > 11:30 HC> > 2:30 Another B Complex, Sea Salt> > 4:30 HC> > 8:30 Sea Salt and evening supplements: Digestive Enzymes, Probiotics, Calcium, Magnesium, Camu (to be added shortly)> > I'll be adding another dose of Thyroid-S at 2:30 after I ramp up a bit. Right now one does is it for the day.> > Any thoughts?> > Thanks much, > > > ---------------------------------> Sponsored

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Good advice. I did not know that. There is so much to taking supplements!Thank you, <kennio@...> wrote: I've been told that oils should not be taken at the same time as vitamins sincethey might coat the absorbent pills and make them less likely to dissolve. Itake the oils closer to a meal.--- Whitmore wrote:> My Lugol's will arrive soon and I am in need of instruction regarding dosing.> > This is what I'm doing presently:> > 7:30 HC and morning supplements: Selenium, Vit. E, DHEA, Digestive Enzymes,> Probiotics, subingual B Complex, Glutamine, Maca, Fish Oil> > 8:30 Thyroid-S> > 11:30 HC> > 2:30 Another B Complex, Sea Salt> > 4:30 HC> > 8:30

Sea Salt and evening supplements: Digestive Enzymes, Probiotics,> Calcium, Magnesium, Camu (to be added shortly)> > I'll be adding another dose of Thyroid-S at 2:30 after I ramp up a bit. > Right now one does is it for the day.> > Any thoughts?> > Thanks much, > > > ---------------------------------> Sponsored Link> > Don't quit your job - take classes online and earn your degree in 1 year.> Start Today__________________________________________________

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> <kennio@...> wrote: I've been told that oils should

> not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some

fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,

etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated

tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

Carol

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All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even the slightest oil residue

on it and then another without the slight oil coating... one dissolves fairly

quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different I know, but why risk it?

I chew most of my pills also.

--- cbwillis9 <cbwillis9@...> wrote:

> > <kennio@...> wrote: I've been told that oils should

> > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

>

>

> Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some

> fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,

> etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated

> tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

>

> Carol

>

>

>

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Pills with a hard covering - enteric coating - are meant to pass through the stomach and take effective in the intestines instead. Chewing these disrupts that capacity to get the nutrient where it will do you some good,

Fat soluble supplements needs additional fats for absorption and assimilation. Vit E, A, D, fish oil are some of them.

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Posted by: "" kennio@... Kennio

Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:12 pm (PST)

All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even the slightest oil residueon it and then another without the slight oil coating... one dissolves fairlyquickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different I know, but why risk it? I chew most of my pills also.

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If you're right, it makes taking supplements and eating

very difficult to coordinate.

Many will give up as it's too easy for even the most

conscientious person to fail. I don't think I could do it

myself on *most* days.

I find the water/stomach acid reasoning below to be a stretch.

I'll take the risk, as you say :-), to eat a meal that includes

fat/oil and take some vitamins with the meal.

I chew many of my supplements too, especially TCM herbals,

taken between meals, chew n chase as I call it with water.

Carol

<kennio@...> wrote:

> All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even

> the slightest oil residue

> on it and then another without the slight oil coating...

>one dissolves fairly

> quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different

> I know, but why risk it?

>

>

> I chew most of my pills also.

>

> --- cbwillis9 <cbwillis9@...> wrote:

>

> > > <kennio@> wrote: I've been told that oils should

> > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

> >

> >

> > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some

> > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,

> > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated

> > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

> >

> > Carol

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Let me clarify something, I don't see a problem with a couple of capsules of

oil or taking vitamins with a meal that has fats. I am talking about oil...

significant amounts of oil. I take a fist full of fish oil capsules, other

phospholipids AND Carlson Cod Liver oil. One thing I have learned here is the

importance of Essential Fatty acids, I have years to make up for what with all

the years of a low fat diet. There is no way I would mix all that oil with my

vitamins. The amount of time that the pressed vitamin pill spends in the

stomach is not long enough to break down an oil soaked compressed pill...it

becomes temporarily moisture proof.

I know that mineral oil when ingested on a regular basis actually causes

mineral and vitamin deficiencies. Yes it is entirely indigestible but seems to

accumulate nutrients as it passes as oil would. I know that with the amount of

EFA's I take, that some passes right through me also. It just seems obvious to

separate the two when a significant amount of oil is ingested.... that's all I

am saying.

--- cbwillis9 <cbwillis9@...> wrote:

> If you're right, it makes taking supplements and eating

> very difficult to coordinate.

> Many will give up as it's too easy for even the most

> conscientious person to fail. I don't think I could do it

> myself on *most* days.

>

> I find the water/stomach acid reasoning below to be a stretch.

> I'll take the risk, as you say :-), to eat a meal that includes

> fat/oil and take some vitamins with the meal.

>

> I chew many of my supplements too, especially TCM herbals,

> taken between meals, chew n chase as I call it with water.

>

>

> Carol

>

>

>

> <kennio@...> wrote:

> > All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even

> > the slightest oil residue

> > on it and then another without the slight oil coating...

> >one dissolves fairly

> > quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different

> > I know, but why risk it?

> >

> >

> > I chew most of my pills also.

> >

> > --- cbwillis9 <cbwillis9@...> wrote:

> >

> > > > <kennio@> wrote: I've been told that oils should

> > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

> > >

> > >

> > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some

> > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,

> > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated

> > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

> > >

> > > Carol

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks to all for the pertinent information. I've learned a great deal here. Most of my supplements are either gel caps or capsules. The Standard Process E vitamin that I take is a tablet and I'll chew those in future.I've order Camu which I plan to open the capsule and take sublingually a little at a time to see if I can tolerate it.Taking some supplements on an empty stomach causes me to feel nauseated. That's why I usually have a bite of food beforehand. My bite of food has been a string cheese stick or a hand full of raw almonds. I'm trying to get away from both so it'll be interesting to see how I learn to ferry some smoked fish in my purse! LOLThanks again for all the help here. <kennio@...> wrote: Let me clarify something, I don't see a

problem with a couple of capsules ofoil or taking vitamins with a meal that has fats. I am talking about oil...significant amounts of oil. I take a fist full of fish oil capsules, otherphospholipids AND Carlson Cod Liver oil. One thing I have learned here is theimportance of Essential Fatty acids, I have years to make up for what with allthe years of a low fat diet. There is no way I would mix all that oil with myvitamins. The amount of time that the pressed vitamin pill spends in thestomach is not long enough to break down an oil soaked compressed pill...itbecomes temporarily moisture proof.I know that mineral oil when ingested on a regular basis actually causesmineral and vitamin deficiencies. Yes it is entirely indigestible but seems toaccumulate nutrients as it passes as oil would. I know that with the amount ofEFA's I take, that some passes right through me also. It just seems obvious toseparate the two

when a significant amount of oil is ingested.... that's all Iam saying.--- cbwillis9 wrote:> If you're right, it makes taking supplements and eating> very difficult to coordinate.> Many will give up as it's too easy for even the most> conscientious person to fail. I don't think I could do it> myself on *most* days.> > I find the water/stomach acid reasoning below to be a stretch. > I'll take the risk, as you say :-), to eat a meal that includes> fat/oil and take some vitamins with the meal. > > I chew many of my supplements too, especially TCM herbals,> taken between meals, chew n chase as I call it with water.> > > Carol> > > > wrote:> > All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even> > the slightest oil residue> > on it and then another without the

slight oil coating... > >one dissolves fairly> > quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different> > I know, but why risk it? > > > > > > I chew most of my pills also.> > > > --- cbwillis9 wrote:> > > > > > wrote: I've been told that oils should> > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since> > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less> > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.> > > > > > > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some> > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,> > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral> > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated> > >

tablets) are easiest to assimilate.> > > > > > Carol> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________> _______________> > Sponsored Link> > > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > > $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! > > www.LowerMyBills.com/lre> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Sponsored LinkRates near historic lows - $200,000 mortgage for $660/ month - http://.ratemarketplace.comIodine

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Not sure if I've ever seen an enteric coated vitamin and yes E, A, D and fish

oil are oil capsules. I know that vitamin E is useless as are others unless

taken with food... thats why I group my oils with a meal. I take the other

supplements shortly after... just not together. I don't want the oils (and I

take a lot) saturating the pills and coating the stomach possibly preventing

absorption.

BTW, most probiotics, acidophilus or bifidus are best taken 30 minutes prior to

meals to avoid their destruction by excessive exposure to digestive acid and

digestive aid supplements.

--- foxhillers@... wrote:

> Pills with a hard covering - enteric coating - are meant to pass through the

>

> stomach and take effective in the intestines instead. Chewing these

> disrupts that capacity to get the nutrient where it will do you some good,

>

> Fat soluble supplements needs additional fats for absorption and

> assimilation. Vit E, A, D, fish oil are some of them.

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> _http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/_ (http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/)

>

>

> Posted by: " " _kennio@... _ (mailto:kennio@...?Subject=

> Re:%20Dosing%20Iodine%20with%20HC,%20Thyroid-S%20and%20Supplements) _Kennio

> _

> (Kennio)

> Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:12 pm (PST)

> All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even the slightest oil

> residue

> on it and then another without the slight oil coating... one dissolves

> fairly

> quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different I know, but why risk

> it?

>

> I chew most of my pills also.

>

>

>

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Yes, I take the vitamins/minerals not all that long after eating and taking the

oils. One other thing, your probiotic should be taken before eating otherwise

it will not survive the stomach acids especially with the digestive enzymes you

take.

Never hear of Camu.

--- Whitmore <phonicity@...> wrote:

> Thanks to all for the pertinent information. I've learned a great deal here.

>

>

> Most of my supplements are either gel caps or capsules. The Standard Process

> E vitamin that I take is a tablet and I'll chew those in future.

>

> I've order Camu which I plan to open the capsule and take sublingually a

> little at a time to see if I can tolerate it.

>

> Taking some supplements on an empty stomach causes me to feel nauseated.

> That's why I usually have a bite of food beforehand. My bite of food has

> been a string cheese stick or a hand full of raw almonds. I'm trying to get

> away from both so it'll be interesting to see how I learn to ferry some

> smoked fish in my purse! LOL

>

> Thanks again for all the help here.

>

> <kennio@...> wrote: Let me clarify something, I don't see a

> problem with a couple of capsules of

> oil or taking vitamins with a meal that has fats. I am talking about oil...

> significant amounts of oil. I take a fist full of fish oil capsules, other

> phospholipids AND Carlson Cod Liver oil. One thing I have learned here is

> the

> importance of Essential Fatty acids, I have years to make up for what with

> all

> the years of a low fat diet. There is no way I would mix all that oil with

> my

> vitamins. The amount of time that the pressed vitamin pill spends in the

> stomach is not long enough to break down an oil soaked compressed pill...it

> becomes temporarily moisture proof.

>

> I know that mineral oil when ingested on a regular basis actually causes

> mineral and vitamin deficiencies. Yes it is entirely indigestible but seems

> to

> accumulate nutrients as it passes as oil would. I know that with the amount

> of

> EFA's I take, that some passes right through me also. It just seems obvious

> to

> separate the two when a significant amount of oil is ingested.... that's all

> I

> am saying.

>

> --- cbwillis9 wrote:

>

> > If you're right, it makes taking supplements and eating

> > very difficult to coordinate.

> > Many will give up as it's too easy for even the most

> > conscientious person to fail. I don't think I could do it

> > myself on *most* days.

> >

> > I find the water/stomach acid reasoning below to be a stretch.

> > I'll take the risk, as you say :-), to eat a meal that includes

> > fat/oil and take some vitamins with the meal.

> >

> > I chew many of my supplements too, especially TCM herbals,

> > taken between meals, chew n chase as I call it with water.

> >

> >

> > Carol

> >

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> > > All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even

> > > the slightest oil residue

> > > on it and then another without the slight oil coating...

> > >one dissolves fairly

> > > quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different

> > > I know, but why risk it?

> > >

> > >

> > > I chew most of my pills also.

> > >

> > > --- cbwillis9 wrote:

> > >

> > > > > wrote: I've been told that oils should

> > > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some

> > > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,

> > > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> > > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated

> > > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

> > > >

> > > > Carol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Just wanted to throw this out there......Some probiotics have an

enteric coating. Enzymedica's pri-bio has an enteric coating and

that's what I take. It's a new product for them so I don't know how

many others or if any other probiotics have that.

Terry

I've been told that oils should

> > > > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > > > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > > > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have

some

> > > > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down

fats,

> > > > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> > > > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard

coated

> > > > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

> > > > >

> > > > > Carol

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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Thank you ...I will try to separate the probiotic and take it as soon as I wake...much before breakfast.Here's a link for Camu which I am taking in an attempt to get some extra Vitamin C into my system. Can't tolerate regular or buffered Cs.http://www.healthylifeharvest.com/ <kennio@...> wrote: Yes, I take the vitamins/minerals not all that long after eating and taking theoils. One other thing, your probiotic should be taken before eating otherwiseit will not survive the stomach acids especially with the digestive enzymes youtake.Never hear of Camu.--- Whitmore wrote:> Thanks to all for the pertinent information. I've learned a great deal here.> > > Most of my supplements are either gel caps or

capsules. The Standard Process> E vitamin that I take is a tablet and I'll chew those in future.> > I've order Camu which I plan to open the capsule and take sublingually a> little at a time to see if I can tolerate it.> > Taking some supplements on an empty stomach causes me to feel nauseated. > That's why I usually have a bite of food beforehand. My bite of food has> been a string cheese stick or a hand full of raw almonds. I'm trying to get> away from both so it'll be interesting to see how I learn to ferry some> smoked fish in my purse! LOL> > Thanks again for all the help here. > > wrote: Let me clarify something, I don't see a> problem with a couple of capsules of> oil or taking vitamins with a meal that has fats. I am talking about oil...> significant amounts of oil. I take a fist full of fish oil capsules,

other> phospholipids AND Carlson Cod Liver oil. One thing I have learned here is> the> importance of Essential Fatty acids, I have years to make up for what with> all> the years of a low fat diet. There is no way I would mix all that oil with> my> vitamins. The amount of time that the pressed vitamin pill spends in the> stomach is not long enough to break down an oil soaked compressed pill...it> becomes temporarily moisture proof.> > I know that mineral oil when ingested on a regular basis actually causes> mineral and vitamin deficiencies. Yes it is entirely indigestible but seems> to> accumulate nutrients as it passes as oil would. I know that with the amount> of> EFA's I take, that some passes right through me also. It just seems obvious> to> separate the two when a significant amount of oil is ingested.... that's all> I> am

saying.> > --- cbwillis9 wrote:> > > If you're right, it makes taking supplements and eating> > very difficult to coordinate.> > Many will give up as it's too easy for even the most> > conscientious person to fail. I don't think I could do it> > myself on *most* days.> > > > I find the water/stomach acid reasoning below to be a stretch. > > I'll take the risk, as you say :-), to eat a meal that includes> > fat/oil and take some vitamins with the meal. > > > > I chew many of my supplements too, especially TCM herbals,> > taken between meals, chew n chase as I call it with water.> > > > > > Carol> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > All I know if I drop one pill in water that has even> > > the slightest oil residue> > > on it and

then another without the slight oil coating... > > >one dissolves fairly> > > quickly and one doesn't. Stomach acids are different> > > I know, but why risk it? > > > > > > > > > I chew most of my pills also.> > > > > > --- cbwillis9 wrote:> > > > > > > > wrote: I've been told that oils should> > > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since> > > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less> > > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.> > > > > > > > > > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some> > > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,> > > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral>

> > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated> > > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.> > > > > > > > Carol> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________> > _______________> > > Sponsored Link> > > > > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > > > $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! > > > www.LowerMyBills.com/lre> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________> Sponsored Link> > Rates near historic lows - > $200,000 mortgage for

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Terry,I copied this from the online vendor. It's a description of my probiotic as relates to your important comment."Kyo-Dophilus is formulated with three specially cultured, non-dairy, heat-stable, stomach acid resistant strains of beneficial bacteria."I know I need more than 1.5 billion, but my IC bladder seems to tolerate this product. :)Terry McNew <tmcnew1@...> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there......Some probiotics have an enteric coating. Enzymedica's pri-bio has an enteric coating and that's what I take. It's a new product for them so I don't know how many others or if any other probiotics have that.Terry I've been told that oils should> > > > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since> > > > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less> > > > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have some> > > > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down fats,> > > > > etc. including vitamins. That said,

vitamin/mineral> > > > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard coated> > > > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.> > > > > > > > > > Carol> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________> > > _______________> > > > Sponsored Link> > > > > > > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > > > > $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! > > > > www.LowerMyBills.com/lre> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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[Guest guest]

All the different companies have different advice on taking probiotics. I

would still err on the side of caution when taking an additional digestive

enzyme and take the probiotic away from that. Before or after no matter what

they say.

" All probiotic supplements work most effectively if taken after meals, when

stomach acid is lowest. Stomach acid destroys up to 99.9% of probiotics if

taken before a meal but only about 90% if taken after the meal.

Thus, after-meal intake ensures maximum delivery to the small intestine where

they reproduce rapidly, populating the colon. They do most of their good work

in the small and large intestines, but they also help the mouth and esophagus

to remain uninfected. In order to stay alive, probiotics should be kept

refrigerated.

http://www.udoerasmus.com/products/probiotics.htm

--- Whitmore <phonicity@...> wrote:

> Terry,

>

> I copied this from the online vendor. It's a description of my probiotic as

> relates to your important comment.

>

> " Kyo-Dophilus is formulated with three specially cultured, non-dairy,

> heat-stable, stomach acid resistant strains of beneficial bacteria. "

>

> I know I need more than 1.5 billion, but my IC bladder seems to tolerate this

> product.

>

>

>

> Terry McNew <tmcnew1@...> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out

> there......Some probiotics have an

> enteric coating. Enzymedica's pri-bio has an enteric coating and

> that's what I take. It's a new product for them so I don't know how

> many others or if any other probiotics have that.

>

> Terry

>

>

>

>

> I've been told that oils should

> > > > > > > not be taken at the same time as vitamins since

> > > > > > > they might coat the absorbent pills and make them less

> > > > > > > likely to dissolve. I take the oils closer to a meal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Normally vitamins are taken with food, meals often have

> some

> > > > > > fat component, stomach acids and other enzymes break down

> fats,

> > > > > > etc. including vitamins. That said, vitamin/mineral

> > > > > > gelatin capsules, gelcaps, liquids, and powders (vs. hard

> coated

> > > > > > tablets) are easiest to assimilate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Carol

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > > > _______________

> > > > > Sponsored Link

> > > > >

> > > > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows.

> > > > > $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment!

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[Guest guest]

What if you have low hcl? I have to take a boat load before I eat meat.

Also am wondering if, instead of doing what I've done all my life and

eating my salad before my meat, I'm contributing to the low hcl?

Veggies are alkalizing. However, the raw apple cider vinegar I put in

instead of regular vinegar must be acid. Is Olive Oil acid? Feels

alkaline.

Very complicated.

I'm taking your advice though and from now on will take probiotics

after meals. I mistakenly got powdered and is too expensive to go back

and get tabs so mix it with my Frontier Yeast in water. Is that not a

good thing?

Rats.

THINGS I TAKE

Right before a meal:

Liver cap (500 mg Dr Ron)

Amla C+ (22.2 mg)

Alpha Lipoic Acid (100 mg)

B6 (100 mg Country Life)

B12 (Jarrow sublingual)

Frontier Brewer's Yeast (not grown on soy, 1 heaping spoonful)

Grape Seed Extract (100 mg Dr Ron)

Super K with K2 (Life Extension [ can't figure out the dose - one cap]

I take for rebuilding capillaries destroyed by chemo - in fact whole

digestive system destroyed it seems)

probiotic (Primal Defense - on Cap = ?)

cell salts (Bioplasma has 12 salts taken sublingually)

Beta Pepsin (Solgar 6 tabs ea. containing 350 mg of Betaine

Hydrochloride from beets and 59 mg of Pepsin)

THEN on my eggs or meat, but nothing on cooked veggies

Celtic Sea Salt

Enzymes (Omega Zyme from garden of Life)

Enzymes (broken open capsule of HN-ZYME PRIME and PEPTIZYDE from

Houston Nutraceuticals bought from the autismcoach.com site because

they were made without anything that would harm an autistic child and

be very thorough so figured it wouldn't harm me either and be thorough

for me too. Wonder if I should give up Omega-Zyme but list slightly

different ingredients. )

Used to do bone broths but my pastured chicken lady ran out of chickens

for the whole summer and my pastured beef lady doesn't come to the

Farmer's Market here anymore. Too much $ to order)

I have always felt I should not take all together but have no idea what

order or when each should be taken. I can be very rigid about such

things so if you have advice please let me know.

Thanks VERY much!

On Nov 17, 2006, at 9:23 AM, wrote:

> " All probiotic supplements work most effectively if taken after meals,

> when

> stomach acid is lowest.

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