Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Hi Cassandra, Most of us don't have any useable hearing in the ear that will be implanted anyway, so loss of residual hearing is not a big issue. If you have useable hearing in the ear to be implanted, you are usually NOT a candidate for a traditional CI. There are, however, people who have lost the high frequencies, but have pretty good low frequency hearing, and those are the ones who are candidates for the hybrid or combined implant/hearing aid device. Studies have shown in the long run, they usually lose the low frequency hearing anyway, and then the electrode array is inserted all the way and they become traditional CI users. I wish I had known that when I was implanted. I have no residual hearing left in my left ear. I was told before surgery there would be none after implantation. Cassandra ____________________________________________________________ Let your voice be heard! Click here and get paid to participate in surveys! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEFxLqSVtSWCz7LiGXu8O7YeAhXvxG\ OmHTj2TgElhEbaOR8WWVnUU/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. Bonnie in Goleta, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Hi Bonnie, No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. Bonnie in Goleta, CA ____________________________________________________________ You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJYZR4\ j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Hi all, As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept and guaranteed. fyi Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP Re:MED-EL CIs Hi Bonnie, No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. Bonnie in Goleta, CA ____________________________________________________________ You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJ YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I wish I had known that when I was implanted. I have no residual hearing left in my left ear. I was told before surgery there would be none after implantation. Cassandra From: mehmet <mehsaatci@...> Subject: RE: Re:MED-EL CIs Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:50 PM Hi all, As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept and guaranteed. fyi Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP Re:MED-EL CIs Hi Bonnie, No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically) , while giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. Bonnie in Goleta, CA ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9O ClVkYuNF3unLW74I LTJ YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3j zmy9ZxvS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 There is no guarantee. Even with a short array there is likely to be some future reduction in your residual hearing after implantation and in some cases you lose all your residual hearing as shown in studies I have read. No one can guarantee the results after implantation. What are you going to do? Ask for your money back? > > Hi all, > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept > and guaranteed. > > fyi > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > > Re:MED-EL CIs > > Hi Bonnie, > No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. > Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but > certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not > be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you > get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. > If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances > are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. > Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and > restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the > hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. > Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial > insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while > giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. > > > Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my > surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it > destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency > residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. > > Bonnie in Goleta, CA > ____________________________________________________________ > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJ > YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 It would be a brave man/woman that would guarantee you, that there would be no loss of residual hearing. Ted F. > > Hi all, > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept and guaranteed. > > fyi > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Hello I am using medel op2 ci bilaterial . am veri profound loss. am able to hear great music , low to high pitch no problem. I myself play piano. cheers superstring. ________________________________ From: mehmet <mehsaatci@...> Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 5:50:10 Subject: RE: Re:MED-EL CIs Hi all, As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept and guaranteed. fyi Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP Re:MED-EL CIs Hi Bonnie, No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically) , while giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. Bonnie in Goleta, CA ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9O ClVkYuNF3unLW74I LTJ YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3j zmy9ZxvS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Skarzynski H, Lorens A, Piotrowska A, I (2007): Preservation of low frequency hearing in par tial deafness cochlear implantation (PDCI) using the round window surgical approach. Acta Oto-Laryngologica, 2007, Vol. 127/1: 41-48. Roland PS, Gstöttner W, Adunka O (2005): Method for hearing preservation in cochlear implant surgery. Operative Techniques in Otolaryngology 2005; 16: 93-100. Adunka O, Unkelbach MH, Mack MG, Radeloff A, Gstoettner W (2005): Predicting Basal Cochlear Length for Electric-Acoustic Stimulation. Arch Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg. 2005;131:488-492. Gstoettner W, Pok SM, s S, Kiefer J, Adunka O (2005): Kochleaimplantat mit Tieftonresterhalt (Cochlear implantation with preservation of residual deep frequency hearing). HNO, Sep 2005, 53(9), 784-791; German. Adunka O, Unkelbach MH, Mack M, Hambek M, Gstoettner W, Kiefer J. (2004) Cochlear implantation via the round window membrane minimizes trauma to cochlear structures: a histologically controlled inser tion study. Acta Otolaryngol 2004; 124: 1-6. Gstoettner W, Kiefer J, Baumgar tner W, Pok SM, s S, Adunka O (2004). Hearing Preservation in Cochlear Implantation for Electric Acoustic Stimulation, Acta Otolaryngol, Vol. 124, 348-352. Kiefer J, Gstoettner W, Baumgar tner W, Pok SM, Tillein J, Ye Q, von Ilberg C (2004). Conservation of low-frequency hearing in cochlear implantation. Acta Otolaryngol, Vol. 124/3, 272-280. mehmet saatcioglu, pmp > > > > Hi all, > > > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept > > and guaranteed. > > > > fyi > > > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > > > > Re:MED-EL CIs > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. > > Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but > > certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not > > be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you > > get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. > > If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances > > are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. > > Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and > > restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the > > hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. > > Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial > > insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while > > giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. > > > > > > Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my > > surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it > > destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency > > residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. > > > > Bonnie in Goleta, CA > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJ > > YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Based on What are you saying likely to be eventual loss of residual? Site your " studies " and please don't attempt to read the future. In some cases people get meningitis and DIE so let's stop all surgeries, makes sense based on your logic. The GOAL should be to get the best results possible. All companies now have learned that reducing trauma and maintaining residual if at all possible is THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME. No guarantees but that what we should all hope to get! > > > > Hi all, > > > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept > > and guaranteed. > > > > fyi > > > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > > > > Re:MED-EL CIs > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. > > Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but > > certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not > > be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you > > get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. > > If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances > > are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. > > Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and > > restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the > > hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. > > Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial > > insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while > > giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. > > > > > > Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my > > surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it > > destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency > > residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. > > > > Bonnie in Goleta, CA > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJ > > YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I meant further not future reduction in the residual hearing is possible even with the hybrid implant system. If you read the studies outcomes with the short array there has been some success in preserving most of the residual hearing in some cases but not in all cases. But that was not my point. No one can " guarantee " the results. We hope for the best outcome but that does not mean preserving my low frequency residual hearing in my case since I had very little left anyway. My Freedom implant gave me back my low frequency hearing to a level I never thought possible even when I was young. I called my implant the bass fantastic but then again not everyone can get that same results. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > > > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > > > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > > > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > > > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept > > > and guaranteed. > > > > > > fyi > > > > > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > > > > > > Re:MED-EL CIs > > > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > > No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. > > > Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but > > > certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not > > > be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you > > > get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. > > > If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances > > > are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. > > > Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and > > > restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the > > > hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. > > > Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial > > > insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically), while > > > giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. > > > > > > > > > Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my > > > surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it > > > destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency > > > residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. > > > > > > Bonnie in Goleta, CA > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9OClVkYuNF3unLW74ILTJ > > > YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3jzmy9ZxvS/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 This is great good for you! > > Hello > > I am using medel op2 ci bilaterial . am veri profound loss. > am able to hear great music , low to high pitch no problem. > I myself play piano. > > cheers > superstring. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mehmet <mehsaatci@...> > > Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 5:50:10 > Subject: RE: Re:MED-EL CIs > > > > > > Hi all, > > As I learned from MED-EL, they have a lot of implant choices, and there of > them are suitable for residual hearing preservation surgery; Short, Medium > and FLEXeas electrode. Short one is just 15mm (up to 2000Hz), Medium and > FLEXeas are just 20mm (inserted up to 1000Hz). So there is no full insertion > in cochlea. This means your residual hearing in low frequencies will be kept > and guaranteed. > > fyi > > Mehmet SAATCIOGLU, PMP > > Re:MED-EL CIs > > Hi Bonnie, > No implant will guarantee that you will have residual hearing left. > Cochlear Freedom does keep some residual hearing in many cases, but > certainly not all. If you have hearing in the other ear, that will not > be affected. But plan on the fact that whatever brand of implant you > get, you will not keep any residual hearing in that ear. > If your hearing is bad enough to qualify for an implant, then chances > are you aren't hearing that well in the ear to be implanted anyway. > Cochlear does have an implant that only goes partially in, and > restores hearing in the high frequencies, while not destroying the > hearing in the low frequencies. You use it along with a hearing aid. > Not sure if that is what your Dr. is talking about. But partial > insertion will keep the low frequencies intact (theoretically) , while > giving your high frequencies the ability to hear via an implant. > > > Does anyone in the group have a MED-EL CI? I am a CI candidate and my > surgeon wants to implant the Cochlear New Freedom. I am wary of it > destroying my ability to hear music. I currently have good low frequency > residual hearing. Thanks for any info or chat on this. > > Bonnie in Goleta, CA > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTQbQX9O ClVkYuNF3unLW74I LTJ > YZR4j6AGqoWzKHbqm3j zmy9ZxvS/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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