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Is it the same for Med El users?

In a message dated 04/21/09 15:23:19 Central Daylight Time, cipalm@...

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Thanks Carol! Nina

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Nina the C levels are the Comfort levels..... those sounds that are loud

enough to hear but not too loud that they are bothersome. The T levels are

the Threshold..... those levels that are the softest that you can hear.

Happy Hearing!

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Does anyone get mappings as frequent as every 3 to 6 months?

In a message dated 04/21/09 15:32:17 Central Daylight Time, rifox@...

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HI Brady, I have had the CI close to22 years (May 1 anniversary) and have

been through a lot of programs and a few processor changes along the way.

Each time I have the same impression, the older is better than the newer

until I have had the newer for a little while. Interesting enough, after

adjusting to the new program/processor, the previous one that seemed better;

now seems like the inferior one. It is all a matter of perception after the

brain accommodates. Ruth

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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:27 PM

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I think Adro1 in Smartsound 1 is better than Adro2 in Smartsound 2 because

Adro1 had much lesser reverberation. Something in Smartsound 2 has been

changed. I do not like the added reverberation in Adro2 and think I could

hear a lot better with Adro1 combined with noise filter.

It should had been possible to adjust the reverberation in Smartsound 2.

That is making the voice more focused even with both microphones turned on.

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During the first year of activation, it's very common to have frequent mappings.

However, following the first year, mappings are usually spread out every 6-12

months. I see my audi every 12 months except when I'm having difficulty hearing.

---- hlsrom <hlsrom@...> wrote:

> Does anyone get mappings as frequent as every 3 to 6 months?

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I just did a Google search and it appears that Med-El also uses the terms T and

C levels.

---- hlsrom <hlsrom@...> wrote:

> Is it the same for Med El users?

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Yes, exactly, you want the majority of the noise behind you, that is what I

was told also.

Nina

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I agree with you Carol, except the last three words...when you live 7 1/2 hours

away from your CI audi it is a little more trouble.  :)  But, I do have to say

that it is important to experiment because you never know when you might hit

upon the best solution for you. 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:26:33 PM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

 I say, don't be afraid..... try it. It can always be set back again without

much trouble.

Happy Hearing!

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Yes, it is.  In fact, at one of my mappings my audi used a MedEl cheat sheet so

that I could indicate to her if the sound was loud enough, too loud, too soft,

etc.  Plus I sat with my sister during one of her mapping sessions and they do

the same testing for comfort and threshhold as I've gone through with my

Freedom.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 3:41:54 PM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

Is it the same for Med El users?

In a message dated 04/21/09 15:23:19 Central Daylight Time, cipalmsbcglobal (DOT)

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Thanks Carol! Nina

In reply to:

Nina the C levels are the Comfort levels..... those sounds that are loud

enough to hear but not too loud that they are bothersome. The T levels are

the Threshold... .. those levels that are the softest that you can hear.

Happy Hearing!

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I've had a headache for the past 2 days, but Carol's suggestion of decreasing

sensitivity helped. In case anyone is wondering, I'm completely out of Excedrin

and the weather was cold and rainy yesterday, so I didn't feel like venturing

outside. Today the weather is sunny and warm, so I'll be heading to Walgreen's

to pick up some Excedrin. Actually, I plan to pick up 2. I don't want to be in

this kind of situation again. LOL!

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Glad you are finding solutions, . I hate Beam, also. I finally had it

mapped out. I'm trying to adjust to my new maps now, and I've also tried

turning down the sensitivity. For me, that isn't the answer, yet. I'll keep

working on it, as I have to go back to my audi in a week for testing, so I

can have him do any tweaks I might need then. I hate that long ride (with

traffic it can be 2 and a half hours) to get there. Jackie :o)

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When I said to experiment, I meant to try changing your volume and/or

sensitivity on any of your program slots. If you are afraid of forgetting what

they were originally set on, wroite it down so you can go back to it if you

don't like anything else better. You don't need your audi for this. It is

something you can try on your own.

Happy Hearing!

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N Freedom- right ear- implanted 3/01/06 activated 4/6/06

Re: Softer Maps?

I say, don't be afraid..... try it. It can always be set back again without

much trouble.

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Jackie,

2.5 hours? Wow. I'm lucky. There are 2 CI centers that are a 15 minute drive

from my home. One of them is a very small clinic while the other (which is the

one I attend) is part of a large hospital and is the largest CI center in the

Midwest.

I really do hope that you can find a solution. For me, turning down sensitivity

has helped since sounds are no longer as loud or sharp when I have it set to 5

instead of 12. Once I start to feel better and my headache goes away, I will

gradually increase it back to the old setting.

When you see your audi, let us know what happens. Good luck! <smile>

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Definitely on the money Carol.  That is what I've been doing lately, turning up

the S and V to see if it helps my hearing.  Then when I am able to make it back

down to Rochester the audi can see where I've been at, and know that we need to

adjust the maps for me.  But, I would still need to have one program be one that

has a softer map for at home.  I have wood floors and cathedral ceilings, and my

husband's voice and television are way to loud in my home with a regular map. 

:)

I still can't get the clarity or crispness I want...but maybe over time we'll

solve that dilemma.  We did improve on it at my last mapping session.

 

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From: Carol <carol@...>

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:09:34 PM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

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When I said to experiment, I meant to try changing your volume and/or

sensitivity on any of your program slots. If you are afraid of forgetting what

they were originally set on, wroite it down so you can go back to it if you

don't like anything else better. You don't need your audi for this. It is

something you can try on your own.

Happy Hearing!

Carol

Boca Raton, FL

N24C - Sprint then 3G left ear -12/11/01-upgraded to Freedom on 2/19/08

N Freedom- right ear- implanted 3/01/06 activated 4/6/06

Re: Softer Maps?

I say, don't be afraid..... try it. It can always be set back again without much

trouble.

Happy Hearing!

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This is completely up to you, but have you thought about turning off one or more

electrodes to see if that helps give you more clarity? I noticed that ever since

6 high frequency electrodes were turned off on each CI, I'm hearing so much

better now. Female voices are very easy for me to understand whereas before they

weren't. I can also hear the TV without a problem which is something

else I used to have difficulty with. My hearing in noise has also improved

noticeably. I worried that deactivating electrodes would make things worse, but

it hasn't. Instead, it has made them much, much better.

Bilateral Cochlear CIs

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, at home, try turning down the sensitivity but keep the volume as high as

you need it to get that crisp sound you wish. Once you turn down the

sensitivity, adjust the volume up or down until it is as good as possible for

you. Note that down on a pice of paper so you can show your audi what you need

when you finally get there.

Happy Hearing!

Carol

Boca Raton, FL

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N Freedom- right ear- implanted 3/01/06 activated 4/6/06

Re: Softer Maps?

I say, don't be afraid..... try it. It can always be set back again without much

trouble.

Happy Hearing!

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We talked about this before .  I talked to my audi about it, and we started

experimenting with other stuff which I thought was helping.  I think this will

be something we will consider trying in the future.  Part of my problem is my HA

- I got a new one for two reasons, 1) digital (my old was analog), and 2) hoping

to improve high frequency hearing.  As a result we're finding that the high

frequency hearing was not helping me, so now we're trying the CI doing the high,

and HA doing the low.  Unfortunately the new HA can't shut out all high

frequency gain, so I still get a little bit of distortion with it on

certain telephones.  And my CI ear is still a  " child " , since it hadn't

heard/understood speech all it's 51 years until implanting, and so it is

still learning.  :)  I got the new Sounds and Way Beyond software and hope that

working with that will bring improved results.  I'm improving all the time, so

I'm pleased with that.

One thing I've noticed lately is that I'm picking out more and more words when

listening to songs on the radio, which is cool.  :)

Thanks .  I am certainly planning on giving this a try.  :)

 

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From: " lkozlik@... " <lkozlik@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:47:43 AM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

,

This is completely up to you, but have you thought about turning off one or more

electrodes to see if that helps give you more clarity? I noticed that ever since

6 high frequency electrodes were turned off on each CI, I'm hearing so much

better now. Female voices are very easy for me to understand whereas before they

weren't. I can also hear the TV without a problem which is something

else I used to have difficulty with. My hearing in noise has also improved

noticeably. I worried that deactivating electrodes would make things worse, but

it hasn't. Instead, it has made them much, much better.

Bilateral Cochlear CIs

December 2004 and February 2006

Deafblind/Postlingu al

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Good idea Carol.  I'll give this a try!

 

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From: Carol <carol@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:24:57 AM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

, at home, try turning down the sensitivity but keep the volume as high as

you need it to get that crisp sound you wish. Once you turn down the

sensitivity, adjust the volume up or down until it is as good as possible for

you. Note that down on a pice of paper so you can show your audi what you need

when you finally get there.

Happy Hearing!

Carol

Boca Raton, FL

N24C - Sprint then 3G left ear -12/11/01-upgraded to Freedom on 2/19/08

N Freedom- right ear- implanted 3/01/06 activated 4/6/06

Re: Softer Maps?

I say, don't be afraid..... try it. It can always be set back again without much

trouble..

Happy Hearing!

Carol

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N Freedom- right ear- implanted 3/01/06 activated 4/6/06

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It is my understanding they address two separate issues, therefore they work

separately.  But, the combination of the two can give you optimum hearing, based

on your needs. 

You probably know this, but I'll just summarize it here...sensitivity is the

amount of sound you bring in based on the distance from you.  The higher the

number, the farther out the microphone will reach to pick up sound.  Therefore,

when you are in a restaurant, you will not want to have a high number for

sensitivity...unless you want to eavesdrop on the table next to you.  :)

Volume is the loudness of the sound.  The higher the number, the louder it is,

much like the way a television works.  :)

Therefore, if your sensitivity is a 12, it can sound like it is louder, when in

fact it is actually more sounds you are hearing.  Although, I thought I read

somewhere that increasing your sensitivity will also by default increase your

volume a little.  But what I notice is that when I turn the sensitivity up in my

office, the fan sound gets louder, which tells me the microphone is reaching out

closer to the fan and therefore hearing more of it.

Does that help?

 

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From: " lkozlik@... " <lkozlik@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:32:41 AM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

Do volume and sensitivity work simultaneously? I always thought they worked

separately.

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Yes, that does help. Thanks for the explanation.

Right now I still have sensitivity on 5 because I have a rebound headache from

taking Excedrin yesterday. Volume is set on 9 which is what I've always had it

set to. Once I start to feel better, I will gradually increase sensitivity back

up to its' original setting of 12.

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Not a problem, .  I can't remember them all either.  :)  So I guess I can't

blame it on Alzheimer's now, huh?  I would remember this, however, because you

found a solution, and I am looking for one.  :)

Have a wonderful day, !  Glad things are looking up for you!

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:52:13 PM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

Sorry . I can't keep track of all of the messages on the list, so I don't

remember if we talked about turning electrodes off or not.

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- here is a thought, and something you may want to talk to your audi

about.  Then again, your settings may be something that works for you because of

your sight situation.  Anyway, my audi explained to me that Cochlear recommends

that the sensitivity be comfortable for the patient at 10 (1/2 way point), and

the volume set at 5 (again, 1/2 way point).  That way the patient can move

theirs up or down as they see fit based on their needs.  Earlier on I

misunderstood my audi and thought that I was suppose to have my sensitivity set

at 12, so I did, and was experiencing a lot of rebound or reverberation of sound

when people talked to me.  When the audi suggested I turn it down to 10, I tried

that and it helped a lot.  When I said I thought I was suppose to have it at 12,

she said, no, 10 is the recommended number.

So, just a thought.  Good luck with your headache.  I know how

miserable migraines are.  Fortunately I have not had one for some time-I use to

get them every single month for 3-4 days.  When I do get them now I take Maxalt

MLT which dissolves under the tongue and gives me relief within 5-15 minutes. 

If I get the meds on board soon enough, I abort the headache completely and do

not get any rebound headaches.  I know you have to be careful with what drugs

you take, so I empathize and hope you get better soon.

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:55:00 PM

Subject: Re: Softer Maps?

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Yes, that does help. Thanks for the explanation.

Right now I still have sensitivity on 5 because I have a rebound headache from

taking Excedrin yesterday. Volume is set on 9 which is what I've always had it

set to. Once I start to feel better, I will gradually increase sensitivity back

up to its' original setting of 12.

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