Re: THis is embarassing to ask but,

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--- Thanks Patty, I will start treating myself for this.... I thought

the yeast was just local. I did not realize that it is systemic,

which really could be why I feel so much worse! Thanks, and I will

research and get some supplements, Blessings, Iggy

PS. In Dr Browns original protocol treatment, he states that

minocycline is " anti-yeast " do a search and it does say that, but

that is the ONLY place IVE seen this stated... so It does sound too

good to be true, but he does say it.... but anyway, I dont take it

for granted, Id rather be on the safe side, cuz and antibiotic is

just that.... thanks, blessings Iggy

In , " *~Patty~* " <fdp@l...> wrote:

> Hi Iggy,

> A systemic yeast infection is different from a vaginal yeast

infection, and is much more insidious. The symptoms of a vaginal

yeast infection are what you would expect--itching, burning, a

discharge and odor, and you would definitely know that you have one.

You basically treat it locally, with anti-fungals such as monistat.

>

> However, a widespread (systemic) candida infection plays havoc on

the immune system. The symptoms of candida are so generalized that

it is hard to pinpoint candida as the cause. Probably the only way

to do it is through a live blood analysis, and most MD's totally blow

off the whole idea of candida infection systemically. It is a very

controversial disease, but a very real one, and best treated by

alternative docs. The symptoms include:

> depression,

> anxiety,

> recurring irritability,

> heartburn,

> indigestion,

> lethargy, extreme food and environmental allergies,

> acne,

> dry, flaky, itchy skin,

> jock itch,

> migraine headaches,

> recurring cystitis/vaginal infections,

> premenstrual tension,

> menstrual problems,

> short term memory loss, brain fog and concentration problems.

>

> Not only does candida affect the immune system, candida (and other

pathogens) excrete toxins that harm the body. The major waste product

of candida is acetaldehyde, which produces ethanol. Ethanol can cause

excessive fatigue, and reduces strength and stamina, by affecting

enzymes and iron absorption. (Iron is needed for oxygen utilization--

hence the lack of enery produced by cells.)

>

> Almost all implanted women suffer from candida overload. In

addition, antibiotics are often prescribed in trying to deal with our

mysterious illness, and antibiotics kill all beneficial bacteria in

the body along with the bad ones, and the beneficial bacteria are

what help keep candida levels in control. (Everyone has candida in

the body--that is why most doctors don't get too worried about it.)

In our case, where antibiotics may be needed to fight mycoplasma

infections, they also increase the probablity of a candida infection

if proper steps are not taken to add back the beneficial bacteria and

kill off the candida. It is a catch-22.

>

> I wasn't aware that minocycline was anti-yeast....but rather

contributes to a yeast problem since it is an antibiotic, just like

doxycycline and tetracycline....anyone else have more info on this

class of drugs? ?

>

> Iggy, you would probably do best by making the assumption that you

have a candida infection that is systemic, and treating accordingly.

An anti-candida diet is very difficult, but you can do many things to

help if you can't do it all the way, such as cutting out sugars as

much as possible, eating anti-fungal foods (my old standby-raw

garlic!), taking anti-fungal supplements (oregano oil, for instance),

and eating more protein foods.

>

> I believe the supplement you are taking, Primal Defense is one of

the very best ones for this. You might also want to look into the

Fungal defense.

> I hope this helps....if you do a search for candida infections on

the net, you will find loads and loads of info to help you. There is

even a group for candida--very informative.

> Hugs,

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: iggyangel7

>

> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 1:02 AM

> Subject: THis is embarassing to ask but,

>

>

> How does one know if they have a yeast infection? Im so used to

> having so many problems, that I can never be sure. Please help

me

> w/symptoms that are common, I know it is a discharge, but I get

that

> right before my period, so I cant tell.... Please help w/advice,

> sorry for the ignorance, blessings, Iggy

> PS< and what do I do to get rid of it?

> Ive been on antibiotic therapy for over six months, and the first

> three were doxycycline, so I know i might have a problem. the

second

> three were w/minocycline, which is very anti-yeast, so that

helps. I

> have been on Primal defense probiotics up until 2 weeks ago, so I

> think something is flaring.

> >unpleasant odor

> frequent urinatiion, but cant

> slight discharge