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In a message dated 5/20/01 9:39:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, angelbear1129@... writes:

she changed rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her here. Our last dog Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks around and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena . It is so sad. :-(

Oh helen I know how you feel, losing a much beloved animal is so painful, I have lost them and know full well what you are going through , 3 years have passed and still I miss PupPup (shes in a little urn (ashes)) and I remember all the sweetness that was her. she was my first Spaniel I have

also lost a son of hers, and a grandson and it still hurts Anne

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Hi Helen,

Im sorry. It always stinks when your pet dies. I bet it's even harder

with having to explain to the children about it too while you are feeling

so awful about it. Least you have a place where they can go and

" visit " . I bet that helps a bit. And your poor other doggie.

Must be confusing for her too. I dont know what i would do if i lost my

girl, nala.

Hugs

Melinda

At 09:38 PM 5/20/01 -0400, you wrote:

My

precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was

thirteen. She died

peacefully at home. I will miss her so

much.

:-( Putting the

girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't

understand why.

And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to

where she

was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying to

explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't

understand.

Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's

part of life but

it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed

rooms, she changed

rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her

here. Our last dog

Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks

around

and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena .

It is so sad.

:-(

Helen

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Hi Helen,

I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your dog. Please

know that you and your family are in my thoughts.

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Helen,

Oh honey. I'm so so sorry for your loss. My mother lost her precious dog Tinkerbelle a few months ago, and when I read this post I was talking to my mother on the phone. Tinkerbelle and Athena sound very similar. Tinkie used to follow my mom around, and lick my mom's feet when she was sad or upset. My mom says that she knows your loss, and feels for you. My mom has recently adopted two new puppies, and they are very sweet. My mom found out that one of the puppies is related to Tinkerbelle. I hope the sadness will pass quickly, but your fond memories will live vividly on forever in your heart. Take care sweetie, email me if you need to talk.

Huge Hugs,

-----Original Message-----From: angelbear1129@... [mailto:angelbear1129@...]Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:39 PM Subject: :-( My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was thirteen. She died peacefully at home. I will miss her so much. :-( Putting the girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't understand why. And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to where she was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying to explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't understand. Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's part of life but it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed rooms, she changed rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her here. Our last dog Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks around and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena . It is so sad. :-( Helen ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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> My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was thirteen.

She died

> peacefully at home. I will miss her so much. :-(

Putting the

> girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't understand

why.

> And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to

where she

> was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying

to

> explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't

understand.

> Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's part of

life but

> it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed rooms, she

changed

> rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her here. Our last

dog

> Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks

around

> and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena . It is

so sad.

> :-(

>

> Helen

(((((Helen))))) I'm so sorry.

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Helen,

I'm very sorry to hear you lost a beloved

pet. Some people don't know how others can get so attracted

to an animal. I'm the kind of person who also gets very

attached to them. You have to reflect on the life of the

departed, not the death. Think of all the good times, and

know that you did everything you could to make your pets life the

best. Many of us pamper our pests, more than we do

ourselves.

Death is even more difficult to explain to kids.

Although it's a tough experience, it's probably a good one, in the long

run, as it teaches them that living things can be hurt and die, and that

the time we have with them is precious.

Big Hug,

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At 09:38 PM 5/20/2001 -0400, you wrote:

My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was

thirteen. She died

peacefully at home. I will miss her so

much.

:-( Putting the

girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't

understand why.

And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to

where she

was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying to

explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't

understand.

Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's

part of life but

it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed

rooms, she changed

rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her

here. Our last dog

Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks

around

and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena .

It is so sad.

:-(

Helen

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In a message dated 5/22/01 12:09:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tulips3@... writes:

I am really very sorry to hear about your loss. It is really heartbreaking to lose a beloved pet. Have you ever heard of the rainbow bridge in heaven? I heard that this is where our pets will be after they die, waiting to be reunited with their owners. So this is just a passing phase...

I hope this makes you feel better...

Ling

Rainbow Bridge is where all our beloved pets go when they die. There they cast away their infirmities and are once more young and agile and happy, they have miles of fields to romp in and all play happily until one day one of the group looks up and the tail starts to wag furiously and then the beloved pet runs to the rainbow Bridge and spies you coming over the bridge, you have a joyous reunion and then you both go to Heaven together. Anne

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Dear Helen,

I am really very sorry to hear about your loss. It is really heartbreaking to lose a beloved pet. Have you ever heard of the rainbow bridge in heaven? I heard that this is where our pets will be after they die, waiting to be reunited with their owners. So this is just a passing phase...

I hope this makes you feel better...

Ling

:-(

My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was thirteen. She died peacefully at home. I will miss her so much. :-( Putting the girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't understand why. And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to where she was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying to explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't understand. Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's part of life but it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed rooms, she changed rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her here. Our last dog Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks around and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena . It is so sad. :-( Helen

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Thanks Anne! You explained it real well, much better than me!

Ling

Re: :-(

In a message dated 5/22/01 12:09:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tulips3@... writes:

I am really very sorry to hear about your loss. It is really heartbreaking to lose a beloved pet. Have you ever heard of the rainbow bridge in heaven? I heard that this is where our pets will be after they die, waiting to be reunited with their owners. So this is just a passing phase... I hope this makes you feel better... Ling Rainbow Bridge is where all our beloved pets go when they die. There they cast away their infirmities and are once more young and agile and happy, they have miles of fields to romp in and all play happily until one day one of the group looks up and the tail starts to wag furiously and then the beloved pet runs to the rainbow Bridge and spies you coming over the bridge, you have a joyous reunion and then you both go to Heaven together. Anne ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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((((((((((((((((Helen))))))))))))))))))) I am so

sorry

--- Bunbun <tulips3@...> wrote:

> Dear Helen,

>

> I am really very sorry to hear about your loss. It

> is really heartbreaking to lose a beloved pet. Have

> you ever heard of the rainbow bridge in heaven? I

> heard that this is where our pets will be after they

> die, waiting to be reunited with their owners. So

> this is just a passing phase...

>

> I hope this makes you feel better...

> Ling

> :-(

>

>

> My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today.

> She was thirteen. She died

> peacefully at home. I will miss her so much.

> :-( Putting the

> girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They

> don't understand why.

> And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We

> took them out to where she

> was buried and the littlest two looked and looked

> for her and trying to

> explain that she was in the ground was hard. They

> just couldn't understand.

> Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I

> know it's part of life but

> it still hurts. She was always by my side. I

> changed rooms, she changed

> rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her

> here. Our last dog

> Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to

> go outside, looks around

> and comes back in and runs room to room looking

> for Athena . It is so sad.

> :-(

>

> Helen

>

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Dear Helen,

I'm so very sorry to read about the loss of your beloved Athena.

It's always a sad day when a precious pet passes away. You may need to mourn

her for quite some time. I hope no one tells you to get over it because

you loved your dog and she is not something to "get over."

I dread the day I have to deal with my sweet dog's death. Digger

is 11 or 12, an Australian Shepherd (Blue Merle) that I've had for 5 years.

She came to me in the middle of my divorce and saved me emotionally and mentally

(even my ex-wife loves this dog). She also follows me from room to room.

She is also wonderful with our 2 cats; we got a little kitten 2 weeks ago

and she started protecting her from our other cat right away. It's so cute.

We got the first cat as a kitten also and Digger has been great with both

cats from the start.

My present wife says that if I die first, she will have to bury my sweet Digger with me.

I understand that you loved your dog very much and nothing can replace her in your heart. I'm very sorry for your loss.

Love,

ie B

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angelbear1129@... wrote:

My precious Athena (dog) Passed away today. She was thirteen. She died peacefully at home. I will miss her so much. :-( Putting the girls to bed tonight was so heart breaking. They don't understand why.

And so many questions, it was a heart breaker. We took them out to where she was buried and the littlest two looked and looked for her and trying to explain that she was in the ground was hard. They just couldn't understand.

Been crying off and on sinse 4 this afternoon. I know it's part of life but it still hurts. She was always by my side. I changed rooms, she changed rooms. It is going to be so odd to not hve her here. Our last dog Troubles, is beside herself. She keeps barking to go outside, looks around and comes back in and runs room to room looking for Athena . It is so sad. :-(

Helen

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In a message dated 08/23/2002 4:25:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> But again, it is based on a primary insurance being

> billed first.

Hi Diane,

We had the same predicament, so we solved it by taking off of the

primary insurance. They can't say NO. By taking him off of the private

insurance, Medicaid then became his primary. His medicaid program is called

Child Health Plus. We do have a premium of a $112 a month, but we pay if off

and then get it back from the Flexible Spending Plan we do through my

husbands work. We don't get all of it back, but it is some. 's Child

Health Plus is through United Health Care so we have to stay within the

" network " that UHC has designated. Other than his out of town neurologist,

most everything has been covered. We are actually in the process of

switching him over to a program called Care At Home, a medicaid based waiver

program for children with health or physicall disabilities. It does not take

income into account, you have to be denied by Medicaid and then they put you

on the waiver. This way we won't have the premium to pay each month and the

benefits actually increase, because we won't be under the " network "

desgination of a specific health insurance program. So anyone who takes

medicaid has to take the waiver. I have no idea if these same programs exist

in your state, but since it seems Kody is already on one version of NYS's

waiver program, I would see if taking him off of the private insurance is a

viable option.

Take care and God Bless.

Mommy to Annette 12 (Selective Antibody Deficiency-IGG 2 and 4, CP,

Developmental Delay, g-tube, HIV+), 6 (CVID, Brain tumor survivor,

severe hearing loss, chronic sinus and ear infections, asthma, seizure

disorder, GERD) and Trayvon 3 (Ivemark Syndrome, severe congenital heart

defects, asplenia, situs inversus) All wonderful!!!!!

<A HREF= " http://www.caringbridge.com/ny/my2angels/ " >Click here: CaringBridge -

my2angels</A>

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, Kody's Children's Special Health Care Services insurance only

covers his specialists. We had to get a special waiver for his

pediatrician to be covered under it as a specialist simply because for

his diagnosis' that is who we see the most, who treats him the most.

However, any problem he has that is not due to his immune deficiencies,

epilepsy, asthma or GERD are not covered under this insurance. So for

example if he fell off his bike and broke his arm, it wouldn't be

covered under the government insurance, only under the private

insurance. Plus this government insurance is contingent on having a

primary insurance, you can't have the CSHS insurance without having

private insurance first. Ridiculous, I know. And we can't get straight

medicaid for him because my husband has private insurance available to

him. I tried and was turned down. Plus, in our case, all of Kody's

specialists and his pediatrician will not take medicaid. They accept

his CSHCS insurance because he also has other insurance first. It is a

nightmare of loopholes and sinkholes!!! I have found out that CSHCS will

pay for Kody to stay at this hospital IF the physician in charge of his

care specifically says that Kody can't get the same quality care

elsewhere. Problem here is that I am not sure his immunologist will do

that for me. I asked his nurse, and she said she doesn't know if he

will feel that strongly about it, she said he has a few adult patients

that get IVIG at this other hospital (the one I don't like) and it seems

to go okay for them so she doesn't know if he would write that letter

for me. I think that my main objections at this point is that Kody

knows his hospital as a home away from home. He is comfortable there and

doesn't feel threatened or afraid while we are there. He loves his

nurses and they love him. And then even if this other hospital can treat

him IVIG successfully, what happens when he has to be admitted for

illness? Are they experienced enough with PID to treat him adequately?

They do have a brand new cancer center at this other hospital, I have

heard good things about it, so I am sure they have good hem's there but

since Kody has never seen one I am not sure that is who would treat him

at this new hospital. I am still going to try to get the immuno to sign

the waiver.....but if he refuses I am going to call the other hospital

and request to talk to the head of peds and arrange for a tour, and a

time to answer my questions regarding future care of Kody. We are even

talking ER visits here. UGH. Naturally this all falls next week the

first week of school for the kids. Nothing but chaos here! LOL

Diane, Mom to Kody

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Stu,

 

I'm sorry to hear that the CI isn't working as you hoped. I admire your positive

attitude and willingness to keep trying. I feel that for some, it just takes

more time for the brain to adjust.

 

I can tell you that I have been using both my HA in one ear and a CI in the

other and when I try to use just the CI, it doesn't sound as " natural " as it

does if I use both the CI and HA combo, even after 2 years. And I am still

surprised that my " good ear " (HA ear) isn't as good (at 90 dB average) as I

thought now that I have the CI in the other ear.

 

I'll be thinking of you and hope things improve for you at the low, slow

setting.

 

I remember when I was first activated, it sounded awful and I felt like I was

surrounded by lawnmowers. The audie put it on a low setting and had me work up

the volume rather than going loud right away because she wanted me to wear it,

not get overwhelmed or frustrated and not wear it. 

 

Take care,

Shari in WI