Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Well I am hearing pretty well with mine now that it's programmed right. ________________________________ From: <Jayson4Jesus@...> Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010 10:44:13 PM Subject: hearing restored?  How can hearing be restored when most deaf with implants agree that cochlear implants do not make them hearing? Are deaf who believe they are deaf even though hearing does get restored with a cochlear implant delusional or do they just not understand what the words " hearing " and " deaf " mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Hi, : I think it has more to do with your sense of identity, that a person who identifies with being deaf before the implant will still identify as deaf after the cochlear implant. Also, I can turn my implant processor off whenever I want, and for me, there is no residual hearing left (i.e., the surgery destroyed all my natural hearing), so I am truly deaf without the processors.. With a cochlear implant, the old hearing (via your ear) does not get restored but it is more-or-less replaced (via your head) using CI technology. And also, cochlear implant hearing is never perfect. It's pretty good, I have to say, probably better than I've ever heard in my life. But there are plenty of times I am aware that I can't hear as well as a hearing person, like in noise or when multiple people are speaking at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 I agree with previous comment it relates to how you perceive it. I will have my surgery on December 16 and in my mind will still be deaf but able to hear via the implant. The Deaf Community has accepted the implants better these days. There is still some stigma as they prefer ASL. Really we should just use all the tools we have to live life to the fullest. Tom From: Jayson4Jesus@... Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:44:13 +0000 Subject: hearing restored? How can hearing be restored when most deaf with implants agree that cochlear implants do not make them hearing? Are deaf who believe they are deaf even though hearing does get restored with a cochlear implant delusional or do they just not understand what the words " hearing " and " deaf " mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 " hearing " and " deaf " mean?<<<you said.. Remember C.Implant is not a normal bodily function, and if it went wrong or you take it off you are still Deaf..For some of us it DIDNT work, But even if it did And a lot of people it has worked for, these people still not hearing like they used to, but they hearing something is a bonus, some hear different from others.. You still Deaf person with Implant to help you along, to me its like an even stronger hearing aid...... Mine failed for many reasons that I wont go into...But if it did work Yes I would still be Deaf..we all have different opinions Jayson4Jesus<Jayson4Jesus@...> Stu On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:11 PM, tom dillon <tomdilloniii@...> wrote: > > I agree with previous comment it relates to how you perceive it. I will > have my surgery on December 16 and in my mind will still be deaf but able to > hear via the implant. The Deaf Community has accepted the implants better > these days. There is still some stigma as they prefer ASL. Really we should > just use all the tools we have to live life to the fullest. Tom > > > > > From: Jayson4Jesus@... > Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:44:13 +0000 > Subject: hearing restored? > > > > > > > How can hearing be restored when most deaf with implants agree that > cochlear implants do not make them hearing? Are deaf who believe they are > deaf even though hearing does get restored with a cochlear implant > delusional or do they just not understand what the words " hearing " and > " deaf " mean? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, wrote: > How can hearing be restored when most deaf with implants agree that > cochlear implants do not make them hearing? Are deaf who believe they > are deaf even though hearing does get restored with a cochlear implant > delusional or do they just not understand what the words " hearing " and > " deaf " mean? Over the years, I've sometimes been surprised when someone I knew as " deaf " and had been signing to for many years would suddenly start having a spoken conversation with some hearing person. They have enough hearing with a hearing aid to understand speech, sometimes even to use a telephone, and they still call themselves " deaf " . So no surprise that people with implants do the same thing. I had no usable hearing at all before my recent implant surgeries. Even hearing aids could not give me usable hearing. When my first implant was activated, everything sounded strange and I certainly could not understand speech by hearing along. But my lipreading immediately improved tremendously -- even the strange sounds I heard at that point were enough to boost my lipreading to a usable level. So even restoring a small amount of hearing can be very useful for improving lipreading. Now, over a year later, I can understand some speech over the phone. Does that make me hearing? If that does make me hearing, am I still hearing when my battery dies? :-P I don't consider myself hearing for the simple reason that when my implants are turned on, I still have difficulty hearing, and when they're off, I hear nothing at all. Therefore, I'm deaf. Most people, who aren't trying to push an ideological agenda, understand that hearing loss isn't an all-or-nothing deal. There's a wide range of hearing loss, and any hearing loss that impacts communication ability qualifies as deafness in my book. Likewise, " restoring hearing " doesn't have to mean a complete restoration of full hearing to still be useful. Ken -- Chaos will ensue if the variable i is altered... - SysV Programmers Guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I meant to answer this when I saw it but the busy days slipped away from me. I don't think it matters whether a person was born Deaf or acquired deafness later in life. If we qualify for a CI we are all deaf. When you attend conventions where you see a lot of CI users you see all of them using whatever it takes to communicate and many, many ASL users are walking the halls talking to each other using ASL while proudly showing their CI's on their heads. When the processor is removed from our heads, we have no useable hearing. It is important that we have developed an alternate means of communications. Emergencies can happen even when the processor is off our heads. What alternate means we use to communicate at that time is up to each individual but we cannot go about thinking our hearing loss is " healed. " . It is aided with the best possible technology but it is not " cured. " Tom, its good to read that the Deaf are more accepting of the CI as an assistance to communications needs. You would know about the stigma and the affect it has had on the Deaf for years. I'm personally very excited that you have your surgery date on. the 16th. of this month and I excitedly await your reports as you progress thru this journey. We support your decision to do this for yourself. What an amazing Christmas gift! I persanally know of your struggle to make this decision and I am sure it's the very best one you could make for yourself. Your amazing abilities of living Deaf and advancing give proof to me that ASL is a communications gift that I would like to learn. Perhaps you can help me as I can help you understand more with your new CI. For now, I wish you the very best as you prepare for the amazing journey ahead and commend you for taking it. Alice > > > I agree with previous comment it relates to how you perceive it. I will have my surgery on December 16 and in my mind will still be deaf but able to hear via the implant. The Deaf Community has accepted the implants better these days. There is still some stigma as they prefer ASL. Really we should just use all the tools we have to live life to the fullest. Tom > > > > > From: Jayson4Jesus@... > Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:44:13 +0000 > Subject: hearing restored? > > > > > > > How can hearing be restored when most deaf with implants agree that cochlear implants do not make them hearing? Are deaf who believe they are deaf even though hearing does get restored with a cochlear implant delusional or do they just not understand what the words " hearing " and " deaf " mean? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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