Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Hi , I have a friend on another CI forum who can't stand the sound of a piano with his CI. He was in a test group testing new CI mapping software by a company called Audigence. They use speech for mapping rather than tones. He has excellent speech comprehension, but says music doesn't sound very good. He had his first mapping using tones yesterday and says music now sounds better. Have you tried any of the maps for music that are out there. I've tried several and music really sounds different with each program. I've had excellent results with music and Carole King and her piano sound just like they did back in the 60s before I had hearing problems. Best regards, Jim > > You wanna hear the weirdest thing? After getting the implant, I find I no > longer like to listen to piano music at all. Guitar, however, I enjoy > very much, whereas I didn't think much about it before. > > > > In a message dated 7/15/2009 5:37:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jmkinsella55@... writes: > > Thanks . That is also helpful. I started listening to piano > solos, but found that to be too terrible to tolerate for long, > > **************Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great > laptop deals from Dell! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 > 39%2D1629%2D4) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Here's another opinion. I was also in the Audigence study last summer in which my mapping was done by voice. It did improve my comprehension which is what the software is designed to do. I was very pleased with the results. Meanwhile, it did not change my enjoyment of music which remains excellent. I continue to be enraptured with pop music from my past as well symphonic music, the opera and definitely solo piano. I attribute this to the fact that I am bimodal, wearing a CI in one ear and a hearing aid in the other. I know we've discussed this subject in the past, that we each have to find our own way. I think the more we talk about the many different ways we use our hearing devices, the more others, who are still on their journey, will be able to find success for themselves. Judy in Jax > I have a friend on another CI forum who can't stand the sound of a piano with his CI. He was in a test group testing new CI mapping software by a company called Audigence. They use speech for mapping rather than tones. He has excellent speech comprehension, but says music doesn't sound very good. He had his first mapping using tones yesterday and says music now sounds better. Have you tried any of the maps for music that are out there. I've tried several and music really sounds different with each program. I've had excellent results with music and Carole King and her piano sound just like they did back in the 60s before I had hearing problems. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Hi Judy, That is great. I have bilateral CIs and my mappings have all been done with tones by two excellent audiolgists who specialize in CI mapping. I've also had excellent results with speech and music. Music sounds just like it did before my hearing problems started. I know success with speech comprehension and music are very variable with CIs. I really feel blessed with my results. Best regards, Jim > > > I have a friend on another CI forum who can't stand the sound of a piano with his CI. He was in a test group testing new CI mapping software by a company called Audigence. They use speech for mapping rather than tones. He has excellent speech comprehension, but says music doesn't sound very good. He had his first mapping using tones yesterday and says music now sounds better. Have you tried any of the maps for music that are out there. I've tried several and music really sounds different with each program. I've had excellent results with music and Carole King and her piano sound just like they did back in the 60s before I had hearing problems. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi Ken, Yes, I live in the Anchorage, Alaska area and sent the photo. Yes, my friend, , who participated in the Audigence trial lives in Florida. Here is a link to his personal video about it. The password is " hear " if you want to watch it. I have his permission to share the video. is the fellow in the blue shirt. http://www.vimeo.com/1449303 Jim > > > > You wanna hear the weirdest thing? After getting the implant, I find I no > > longer like to listen to piano music at all. Guitar, however, I enjoy > > very much, whereas I didn't think much about it before. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/15/2009 5:37:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > jmkinsella55@ ... writes: > > > > Thanks . That is also helpful. I started listening to piano > > solos, but found that to be too terrible to tolerate for long, > > > > ************ **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great > > laptop deals from Dell! > > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122308 1934x1201714279/ aol?redir= http:%2F% 2Faltfarm. mediaplex. com%2Fad% 2Fck%2F12309% 2D819 > > 39%2D1629%2D4) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi , I agree. I've seen a lot of mis-information from audiologists about the capibilities of a CI. A piano sounds just like a piano to me with the CIs. I don't care if it is due to " audio memory " , the capibility of the CI or both, it is just grand (pardon the pun). Jim > > Someone posted that her audi said we cannot appreciate the piano because > our CIs have only 22 electrodes. Well, not true. I suggest that we dont > accept such statements as gospel truth and instead, look at our own personal > experiences we gain during our CI journeys. > > I went to a music store last year and sat down at a digital piano and > plinked all 88 keys, one after the other, and could hear the distinct > difference between adjacent keys. I was ready to bring that piano home too. > > I think we all know by now this undeniable fact... We are all > different. The audis are wonderful people but they sure do not know how > every individual does in their hearing. > > 30,000 versus 22? One important factor is overlooked. The power of the > brain. > > By the way, so far as I can tell, there is no musical instrument I > cannot tolerate. Piano and guitar are among my favorites. > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > " So tell me, just how long have you had this feeling that no one is watching > you? " ( Locke: Entropy Gradient Reversals) > & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > rclark0276@... > Home Page- > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think I posted this link here a couple of months ago but since the subject came up again, I'm including it for anyone interested. In it you will see two of the movers and shakers, Dr. Alice Holmes and Lee Krause, president of Audigence. You'll have to click on the upper right corner to see the video. It was shown all over the country and I was tickled to have had a friend from California call me to say she'd seen it. http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10511927 By the way, Jim, I couldn't see the video on the link you sent. I think it needs a password. Since there appears to be some Florida residents here, is anyone going to the ALD workshop at UF/Shands on July 23? I have so many of these devices already, but am always willing to learn something new. Judy in Jax In , KEN RICHARDSON <kenrr44@...> wrote: > > Jim > Â > If I am not mistaken, you are from Alaska and were a big help to me on CI. You sent me a picture of your daughter catching a large fish. Anyway I was quite interested in your mention of Audigence.Does your friend live in Fla. That is where Audigence is located. I live in Gainesville FL where Shands Clinic/Hospital( suppose to be the best in state)Â is located. I read about Audigence in the local paper. They did a software trial test on 28 patients at Shands done by Shands personnel in 2008. I had my implant at Shands on 6-30 and will have activation on 7-21. They are doing another group test and I will get to participate. You first use the Fredoom software for a month or so and then try Audience. You can then pick the one you like. I have several articles on Audience if anyone is interested. > Â > Ken Fla > > > > > From: jimak38 <j1meaves@...> > Subject: Re: piano music for Jim > > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:15 PM > > > Â > > > > Hi , > > I have a friend on another CI forum who can't stand the sound of a piano with his CI. He was in a test group testing new CI mapping software by a company called Audigence. They use speech for mapping rather than tones. He has excellent speech comprehension, but says music doesn't sound very good. He had his first mapping using tones yesterday and says music now sounds better. Have you tried any of the maps for music that are out there. I've tried several and music really sounds different with each program. I've had excellent results with music and Carole King and her piano sound just like they did back in the 60s before I had hearing problems. > > Best regards, > > Jim > > > > > > You wanna hear the weirdest thing? After getting the implant, I find I no > > longer like to listen to piano music at all. Guitar, however, I enjoy > > very much, whereas I didn't think much about it before. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/15/2009 5:37:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > jmkinsella55@ ... writes: > > > > Thanks . That is also helpful. I started listening to piano > > solos, but found that to be too terrible to tolerate for long, > > > > ************ **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great > > laptop deals from Dell! > > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122308 1934x1201714279/ aol?redir= http:%2F% 2Faltfarm. mediaplex. com%2Fad% 2Fck%2F12309% 2D819 > > 39%2D1629%2D4) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi Judy, Yes I mentioned the password for the video in my post. The password is " hear " . Jim > > > > > > You wanna hear the weirdest thing? After getting the implant, I find I no > > > longer like to listen to piano music at all. Guitar, however, I enjoy > > > very much, whereas I didn't think much about it before. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/15/2009 5:37:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > jmkinsella55@ ... writes: > > > > > > Thanks . That is also helpful. I started listening to piano > > > solos, but found that to be too terrible to tolerate for long, > > > > > > ************ **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great > > > laptop deals from Dell! > > > (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122308 1934x1201714279/ aol?redir= http:%2F% 2Faltfarm. mediaplex. com%2Fad% 2Fck%2F12309% 2D819 > > > 39%2D1629%2D4) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks, Jim. I must have had one eye closed. Judy > > Hi Judy, > > Yes I mentioned the password for the video in my post. The password is " hear " . > > Jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hey , congratulations that is great! That reminds me of an old saying, " The only difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys. " Jim > > Jim, > Its always the case where one counters professionally provided > information with real life data. LOL I still have that piano on my wish > list but having passed my General ticket Monday, the new HF rig is now at > the top of that list. LOL > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > If you're happy and you know it, clunk your chains. > & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > rclark0276@... > Home Page- > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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