Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce,

I have bilateral CIs. I've had good results with the Bose Over the Ear headset.

The one without the noise cancelation. They don't filter out noise very well on

the regular setting but, if I am on a flight I put both CIs on T-coil and it

filters out most of the noise. Most places that sell them have them hooked up

so you can listen to how they sound with music. Give them a try with your CI HA

combination with and without the T-coil setting and see if they work for you.

Best regards,

Jim

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> > > Bruce - I wear a HA in my left ear that provides me hearing at 20 dB from

250 Hz to 1500 Hz, then I start to drop off.  So I feel I get pretty good low

frequency hearing with the HA.  I wear the Freedom CI in my right ear - prior to

surgery I had a ski slope loss starting at 55 dB, and dropping to no response to

sounds at 2000 Hz and above.  With the CI my hearing is pretty much at 20-25 dB

across all Hz.  When I was activated with the CI, the first thing I did when I

had the opportunity was to listen to music with both " ears " in the car.  Keeping

in mind that my CI ear was still very new to hearing sounds, I found that the

combination of information coming in to the brain via the CI comlemented what my

HA ear was hearing, and thus created this fuller, richer sound for my

enjoyment.  With a lot of work over the two plus years that I've had my CI,

music has become better and better as time goes on.  It amazes me even today

when I hear a song

> > > I've heard many times in my life, when I suddenly start making out the

lyrics.  It is still unbelievable to me what the CI has done for me by providing

my brain with more information so it can better decipher what it is hearing.

> > >

> > > When I try listening to music without one or the other side, I find that

music is not as loud, and that some components of the music is

missing, depending on which ear is turned off.  So my theory is this, each side

of the brain has its own " specialty " if you will, or in other words, each

side excels in hearing certain things better than others, and that when you put

the two together, each side works together to bring the fullest " picture " to

comprehend.  (I truly believe this is true for people with normal hearing too.) 

I also theorize that when you are only hearing with one side, you are only

getting perhaps 55 - 60% of the information into your brain.  If you have both

sides receiving information, you are getting 100%.  Sort of like putting 2

halves together to make a whole. 

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> > > I don't know if that makes any sense, but that is my two cents worth. 

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[Guest guest]

Hi

anyone knows about med-el audio cables for bilaterial users?

Can show me pictures?

thanks.

 

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From: MacPherson <hohbob@...>

Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 9:09:19

Subject: RE: Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

This is an interesting scenario, Bruce, and I have not seen any studies on

the topic.

In the case of bimodal stimulation, given that the standard CI audio cord

will deliver a mixed R & L signal (mono) to the CI, would it be preferable for

the headphones (or other coupling) for the HA (or unaided)ear to also

deliver a mono signal, or to deliver one or the other of the stereo

channels.

The next question then would be whether it would be preferable to route only

one channel to the CI and the opposite channel to the HA (or unaided) ear.

Either of which is easily accomplished.

Bob

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Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

What type of Headphone are you using for the HA side, been trying to figure

out how to use a single one for that side while using the DAI for my CI

Bruce

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[Guest guest]

At last check, none of the CI makers offer bilateral audio cables. The

present " fix " is to use a 3.5 mm Y-adapter cord, available from Radio Shack,

and the manufacturer's audio cords.

However, this will provide only bilateral mono - not stereo. There are no

stereo adapters presently on the market for this application.

I did design a " workaround " , using a combination of 3 Radio Shack parts

that can be used in place of the standard Y- adapters several years ago if

the true stereo is critical for you

Another option, and a bit sleeker, is a custom-made " splitter " cord that

would split the R and L signals, to be fed to the respective processors.

Bob

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Re: Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

Hi

anyone knows about med-el audio cables for bilaterial users?

Can show me pictures?

thanks.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called Music

Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last Monday and

will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a link for those

interested.

http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

Best regards,

Jim

>

> At last check, none of the CI makers offer bilateral audio cables. The

> present " fix " is to use a 3.5 mm Y-adapter cord, available from Radio Shack,

> and the manufacturer's audio cords.

>

> However, this will provide only bilateral mono - not stereo. There are no

> stereo adapters presently on the market for this application.

>

> I did design a " workaround " , using a combination of 3 Radio Shack parts

> that can be used in place of the standard Y- adapters several years ago if

> the true stereo is critical for you

>

> Another option, and a bit sleeker, is a custom-made " splitter " cord that

> would split the R and L signals, to be fed to the respective processors.

>

> Bob

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> anyone knows about med-el audio cables for bilaterial users?

> Can show me pictures?

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> thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Absolutely, Jim.

Matter of fact I own the dual Music-Links.

My comments were pertaining to DAI ( Direct Audio Input) hard-wired

interfaces.

Quite frankly, except where interference is problematic, any of the

inductive earhooks are less hassle than DAI, say nothing of safety when

connecting to line-powered audio sources!

Bob

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Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

Hi Bob,

There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called

Music Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last

Monday and will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a

link for those interested.

http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

Best regards,

Jim

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

I knew what you were talking about. I've been a ham radio enthusiast for 47

years hi. How do you like the Music Link?

Jim

>

> Absolutely, Jim.

>

> Matter of fact I own the dual Music-Links.

>

> My comments were pertaining to DAI ( Direct Audio Input) hard-wired

> interfaces.

>

> Quite frankly, except where interference is problematic, any of the

> inductive earhooks are less hassle than DAI, say nothing of safety when

> connecting to line-powered audio sources!

>

> Bob

> .............

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> Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

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>

> Hi Bob,

>

> There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called

> Music Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last

> Monday and will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a

> link for those interested.

>

> http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Fine on the Music Links, Jim. The beauty of the inductive earhooks over

neckloops is the much greater magnetic field avaialble for the telecoils due

to the proximity to the hearing instruments.

Say nothing of providing true stereo.

In defense of neckloops, however, for runners or like, where maintaining

positioning on the earhooks could be an issue, and " purist " listening in

stereo may not be a top priority, then the neckloop may be a better choice.

Whatever works for the person in a particular scenario is what's best!

Bob

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Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

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>

>

>

>

> Hi Bob,

>

> There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called

> Music Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last

> Monday and will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a

> link for those interested.

>

> http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

Yes, I am really enjoying stereo again after being monaural for over 30 years.

I guess one could always attach the ear hooks to the processors with a rubber

band.

Jim

> >

> > Absolutely, Jim.

> >

> > Matter of fact I own the dual Music-Links.

> >

> > My comments were pertaining to DAI ( Direct Audio Input) hard-wired

> > interfaces.

> >

> > Quite frankly, except where interference is problematic, any of the

> > inductive earhooks are less hassle than DAI, say nothing of safety when

> > connecting to line-powered audio sources!

> >

> > Bob

> > .............

> >

> >

> > Re: Music and Cochlear Implants - By Kate Gfeller

> >

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> >

> >

> > Hi Bob,

> >

> > There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called

> > Music Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last

> > Monday and will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a

> > link for those interested.

> >

> > http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I use the music link and love it. I listen to audio books with mine as well as

music and speech is excellent with them.

Suzanne Nebraska USA

Surgery 1/14/08 R ear N.Freedom

Activation Date 2/14/08

Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

Hi Bob,

There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called Music

Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last Monday and

will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a link for those

interested.

http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

Best regards,

Jim

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

I saw your post about them in another forum and ordered a pair. They haven't

arrived yet. I'll let you know how they work for me when I've had a chance to

try them out.

Jim

>

> I use the music link and love it. I listen to audio books with mine as well as

music and speech is excellent with them.

>

> Suzanne Nebraska USA

> Surgery 1/14/08 R ear N.Freedom

> Activation Date 2/14/08

> Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

>

>

>

>

> Hi Bob,

>

> There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called Music

Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last Monday and

will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a link for those

interested.

>

> http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just broke my dual M-Links upon leaving Nebraska yesterday. I pulled them too

hard while they were stuck on something. However, I've had them for three years

and it was the best $50 I ever spent. I will be ordering another as soon as I

get home. I was using them for my iPod, and in their place, so I didn't go stir

crazy while driving, used my loop from my FM receiver. Stereo or not,

the music went into both ears. I buy from Tecear as well but ordered these from

Dick Myers at www.puredirectsound.com/ I like to spread the wealth. :-) Bought

my Artone bluetooth from at Tecear.

Judy, now in Tennessee

PS Suzanne, I was in the Columbus area for a week-and-a-half. Did you see me

wave?

>

> I use the music link and love it. I listen to audio books with mine as well as

music and speech is excellent with them.

>

> Suzanne Nebraska USA

> Surgery 1/14/08 R ear N.Freedom

> Activation Date 2/14/08

> Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

>

>

>

>

> Hi Bob,

>

> There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called Music

Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last Monday and

will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a link for those

interested.

>

> http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Need some help spreading that wealth of yours? LOL Yeah 3 years is not

bad at all for $50.

Welcome home almost. LOL

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[Guest guest]

Hi Judy

400 miles is just a " little " to far me to see you wave. Dang - must need to get

my glasses changed. lol. Hope you had a fun trip to NE.

Suzanne Nebraska USA

Surgery 1/14/08 R ear N.Freedom

Activation Date 2/14/08

Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

I just broke my dual M-Links upon leaving Nebraska yesterday. I pulled them too

hard while they were stuck on something. However, I've had them for three years

and it was the best $50 I ever spent. I will be ordering another as soon as I

get home. I was using them for my iPod, and in their place, so I didn't go stir

crazy while driving, used my loop from my FM receiver. Stereo or not,

the music went into both ears. I buy from Tecear as well but ordered these from

Dick Myers at www.puredirectsound.com/ I like to spread the wealth. :-) Bought

my Artone bluetooth from at Tecear.

Judy, now in Tennessee

PS Suzanne, I was in the Columbus area for a week-and-a-half. Did you see me

wave

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

I received the Music Link today and I really like it. Thanks again for the

heads up.

Jim

>

> I use the music link and love it. I listen to audio books with mine as well as

music and speech is excellent with them.

>

> Suzanne Nebraska USA

> Surgery 1/14/08 R ear N.Freedom

> Activation Date 2/14/08

> Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

>

>

>

>

> Hi Bob,

>

> There is a T-coil headset that offers true stereo for CI/HA users called Music

Link. I saw this mentioned on another CI forum. I ordered one last Monday and

will let you know what I think of it when I get it. Here is a link for those

interested.

>

> http://www.tecear.com/Music_Link.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>