Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 --Kelley, this definately sounds like die off (we had similar) I give a lot of pro-biotics (probably more than most) we give Kirkmans pro-bio gold 1 tw times a day and a custom pro-biotic after each meal. Some people use activated charcoal for absorbtion of toxins during die off. I cannot comment on this as I do not know enough about it. Patti - In @y..., Kelley <miklos@m...> wrote: > Hi, > > I know this isn't an enzymes question, but I have seen alot of posts > re yeast so I have a question. My son was on 20ml of Flagyl for 3 > days (sat, sun and mon) and I have been giving him acidophilus > everyday since. He has had some major tantrums, not sleeping well > and has dark circles under his eyes. However he has had his first > formed BM's ever!! I know someone replied to my last post (too scared > to say who I think it was...... lol!) but my computer has been > playing funny buggers and I cant find it. > I want to know 1. is this a 'yeast die-off reaction' and 2. how much > acidophilus to give him and for how long? > Thanks again everyone and have a wonderful easter break (in Australia > we get 4 days off - yeah!) > > Kelley > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Thanks for the speedy reply Patti! As I live in Australia, I will have to order supplements from the US and this takes a couple of weeks. In the mean time, at the moment I am giving 1.5 billion 'organisms made up of Lactobacillus acidophilus and Bifidobacterium lactis' mixed in a little juice once a day. Is this enough/ too much, and are these the right 'guys' to help! Thanks again, Kelley > >Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:30:23 -0000 > From: " tiredmamma18042 " <CFRITCH@...> >Subject: Re: Yeast issues > >--Kelley, >this definately sounds like die off (we had similar) I give a lot of >pro-biotics (probably more than most) we give Kirkmans pro-bio gold 1 >tw times a day and a custom pro-biotic after each meal. Some people >use activated charcoal for absorbtion of toxins during die off. I >cannot comment on this as I do not know enough about it. >Patti > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 ---Just to compare to what I use: pro-bio gold- lactobacillus-7.5 billion lactobacillus-5 billion Bifidobacterium bifidum -5 billion lactobacillus casei-1 billion Streptococcus Thermophilus-750 million Custom pro-biotics- Lactobacilli/Bifidobacteria, 25 Billion L.acidophilus, L.casei, L.plantarum,B. Longum, B. bifidum I read on my yeast forum that the custom brand is one of the best for surviving stomach acids. If you are interested the phone web address is: www.customprobiotics.com You can also get die off when starting strong pro-biotics so start slowly. good luck Patti In @y..., Kelley <miklos@m...> wrote: > Thanks for the speedy reply Patti! > As I live in Australia, I will have to order supplements from the US > and this takes a couple of weeks. In the mean time, at the moment I > am giving 1.5 billion 'organisms made up of Lactobacillus > acidophilus and Bifidobacterium lactis' mixed in a little juice once > a day. Is this enough/ too much, and are these the right 'guys' to > help! > > > Thanks again, > > Kelley > > > > >Message: 14 > > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:30:23 -0000 > > From: " tiredmamma18042 " <CFRITCH@R...> > >Subject: Re: Yeast issues > > > >--Kelley, > >this definately sounds like die off (we had similar) I give a lot of > >pro-biotics (probably more than most) we give Kirkmans pro-bio gold 1 > >tw times a day and a custom pro-biotic after each meal. Some people > >use activated charcoal for absorbtion of toxins during die off. I > >cannot comment on this as I do not know enough about it. > >Patti > > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Hey girl, did you try the tea tree oil douche? That works quick! It's easy too. You make a one percent solution....I had it all figured out at one time, like a teaspoon of tea tree oil to 2 cups of water or something like that...but it works awesome, and it makes you feel so clean down there! Try it! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: naturalbeauty38 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Yeast issues Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may recall last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on very strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of rocephin in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on me. That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I think I have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a pretty bad one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like taking the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly cleared up, but I still have a little bit of itching and burning externally. It is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit frustrated(sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get back in action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared up because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any ideas about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can take in the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you guys would be most helpful!hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 - Have you tried the one day or three day suppositories they have? There is also a diflucan treatment that is one day I think. It is a pill. I have used a treatment of boric acid and water douche that has worked for me. I think rogene said that your husband could get it from you and that is definitely true. And then you can pass it back and forth. He doesn't necessarily have to have any recognizable symptoms. So, the sooner you get it cleared up, the better for both of you--romantically and otherwise! Good luck smiles,kathy -- In , " naturalbeauty38 " <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote: > Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may recall > last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on very > strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of rocephin > in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on me. > That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I think I > have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a pretty bad > one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like taking > the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly cleared up, > but I still have a little bit of itching and burning externally. It > is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit frustrated > (sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get back in > action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared up > because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any ideas > about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can take in > the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you guys > would be most helpful! > hugs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > I just discovered that my son has some yeast (from a stool test) and I wanted to try Grapefruit seed extract. Is this something that should be given continuously or as needed. > > I prefer to give the pills as the liquid tastes awful. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? > > Thank you It should be given just as needed. I've had really good success treating yeast with Lactobacillus Sporogenes. I get it here: http://www.drz.org/asp/store/DetailPage2.asp?SKU=SF758 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Actually, I use the liquid. Put 1 or 2 drops in a bottle of water, shake good, and you'd hardly know it was there. It really only takes a few drops. My son is on it, and I use it when I feel my own yeast flare-ups. Sawyer <sawyerfamily@...> wrote:I just discovered that my son has some yeast (from a stool test) and I wanted to try Grapefruit seed extract. Is this something that should be given continuously or as needed. I prefer to give the pills as the liquid tastes awful. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 > I just discovered that my son has some yeast (from a stool test) and I wanted to try Grapefruit seed extract. Is this something that should be given continuously or as needed. As needed. Don't give it for longer than a week unless you continue to see improvement. > > I prefer to give the pills as the liquid tastes awful. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Liquid works very well for my family. Don't know about capsules, altho I have been told that they are not quite as effective as the liquid. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 I know I'm a quiet member and am here mostly to gather info .. and forgive me for piping up like this, but you should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER douche. Douching cost me my fertility. The vagina is a self cleaning organ. That's why women have cervical discharge. That cleans out the vagina. The only part you should clean is the outside of your vagina with mild soap and water and be sure to rinse thoroughly. When you douche, you take micororganisms in the vagina that *should* be there and push them farther up into your reproductive tract which can cause horrific damage. Please don't douche ESPECIALLY if you plan on having children in the future. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: *~Patty~* Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Yeast issues Hey girl, did you try the tea tree oil douche? That works quick! It's easy too. You make a one percent solution....I had it all figured out at one time, like a teaspoon of tea tree oil to 2 cups of water or something like that...but it works awesome, and it makes you feel so clean down there! Try it! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: naturalbeauty38 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Yeast issues Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may recall last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on very strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of rocephin in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on me. That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I think I have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a pretty bad one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like taking the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly cleared up, but I still have a little bit of itching and burning externally. It is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit frustrated(sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get back in action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared up because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any ideas about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can take in the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you guys would be most helpful!hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Dear Donna Hi Donna and welcome to the group. I am glad to hear you speak up even though you mostly keep quiet, it is nice to meet you and know that your here to gather info. Are you looking into explant or looking into implants? Either way again WELCOME! First of all I mostly agree with you about not douching, it is definitaly not something we need to do 99% of the time. I never douche ever, but this battle I had going on with the yeast was bad and I really needed to get it under control. I am 39 years old, and even if I wanted more kids I am not sure with my past health issues from implants, that it is something I would even consider. However, my husband and I have 5 kids combined ages ranging from 6-17 so we decided early on NO MORE KIDS and he had a vasectomy, so I am def not having any babies. As for your information, it is really good, and accurate for the most part. Your right the vagina is self cleaning, hee hee, that sounds funny, like a self cleaning oven, and uh huh I was baking some bread in there(ok bad nasty joke) but seriously I had to get it under control, and the tea tree oil was just the perfect thing for me. It worked and I only had to do it twice. I think it was a nice,safe,clean way for me to do this, without all those funky creams and goo that they shove up there like monostat, yuck. Anyhow, I am feeling better, and that is what is important for me. For the young women on here that are still douching, your info is good, and like I said I agree with this, but if someone has a serious yeast issue I still think that a nice tea tree oil douche is a safe way to get it under control. I agree though, one should not douche just to get clean, it is not necessary at all. hugs In , " Donna Wealot " <dwealot@k...> wrote: > I know I'm a quiet member and am here mostly to gather info .. and forgive me for piping up like this, but you should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER douche. Douching cost me my fertility. > > The vagina is a self cleaning organ. That's why women have cervical discharge. That cleans out the vagina. The only part you should clean is the outside of your vagina with mild soap and water and be sure to rinse thoroughly. > > When you douche, you take micororganisms in the vagina that *should* be there and push them farther up into your reproductive tract which can cause horrific damage. > > Please don't douche ESPECIALLY if you plan on having children in the future. > > Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: *~Patty~* > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: Yeast issues > > > Hey girl, did you try the tea tree oil douche? That works quick! It's easy too. You make a one percent solution....I had it all figured out at one time, like a teaspoon of tea tree oil to 2 cups of water or something like that...but it works awesome, and it makes you feel so clean down there! > Try it! > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: naturalbeauty38 > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:17 AM > Subject: Yeast issues > > > Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may recall > last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on very > strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of rocephin > in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on me. > That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I think I > have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a pretty bad > one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like taking > the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly cleared up, > but I still have a little bit of itching and burning externally. It > is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit frustrated > (sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get back in > action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared up > because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any ideas > about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can take in > the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you guys > would be most helpful! > hugs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Dear DonnaHi Donna and welcome to the group. I am glad to hear you speak up even though you mostly keep quiet, it is nice to meet you and know that your here to gather info. Thank you kindly for the warm welcome. Actually, I came to this group very recently because I wanted to hear the "other side" of the silicone issue. I *was* (past tense) considering getting implants. But after being here for a while, I do not want to take a chance on doing that kind of damage to my body. I recently quit smoking (lol, as in 67 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 13 seconds, but who's counting, right) and my biggest motivator has been "getting healthy" and learning to really appreciate my body. First of all I mostly agree with you about not douching, it is definitaly not something we need to do 99% of the time. I never douche ever, but this battle I had going on with the yeast was bad and I really needed to get it under control. ;-) Sorry 'bout that little freak out moment. I can understand how circumstances change a lot of things. I'm sorry about your yeast issues ~ I am sometimes prone to yeast infections and I know how truly miserable they can be. I hope you're feeling better now!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Oh heck Donna you don't need to apologize, you did not do anything wrong. You seem like your probably a very passionate person, and your just trying to help others, that is awesome! Congrats on quitting smoking girl that is also AWESOME! I used to be a smoker too, and i quit about 5 years ago. I could not imagine ever doing it again! I actually was motivated to quit because my Plastic surgeon encouraged me to, before i got my implants. I guess that was one thing good that came out of getting implants huh? LOL. Anyhow, girl that is great that you sought information before rushing into getting those implants, good for you. I say accept your body the way it is, get a great padded bra, and spend that money on some new clothes, or a fantastic vaction to somewhere fun and exotic! Anyhow thanks for writting to us and hanging out on the site. We love to help women like you from making a dreadful mistake! HUGS In , " Donna Wealot " <dwealot@k...> wrote: > Dear Donna > Hi Donna and welcome to the group. I am glad to hear you speak up > even though you mostly keep quiet, it is nice to meet you and know > that your here to gather info. > > Thank you kindly for the warm welcome. Actually, I came to this group very recently because I wanted to hear the " other side " of the silicone issue. I *was* (past tense) considering getting implants. But after being here for a while, I do not want to take a chance on doing that kind of damage to my body. I recently quit smoking (lol, as in 67 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes and 13 seconds, but who's counting, right) and my biggest motivator has been " getting healthy " and learning to really appreciate my body. > > First of all I mostly agree with you about not douching, it is > definitaly not something we need to do 99% of the time. I never > douche ever, but this battle I had going on with the yeast was bad > and I really needed to get it under control. > > ;-) Sorry 'bout that little freak out moment. I can understand how circumstances change a lot of things. I'm sorry about your yeast issues ~ I am sometimes prone to yeast infections and I know how truly miserable they can be. I hope you're feeling better now!! > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 I never would have guessed that my child had a yeast problem, it was found on a random stool sample. He doesn't exhibit any unusual " yeast " behaviors that I can pick out. I have started the GSE (2 days now) and continue with probiotics with no die-off reaction or unusual behaviors. Short of doing stool and/or urine (OAT) tests every month, how will I know when the yeast is gone? Also, how do I know when there is a recurrence of the yeast? Thank you [ ] Re: Yeast issues > I just discovered that my son has some yeast (from a stool test) and I wanted to try Grapefruit seed extract. Is this something that should be given continuously or as needed. > > I prefer to give the pills as the liquid tastes awful. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? > > Thank you It should be given just as needed. I've had really good success treating yeast with Lactobacillus Sporogenes. I get it here: http://www.drz.org/asp/store/DetailPage2.asp?SKU=SF758 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 > Short of doing stool and/or urine (OAT) tests every month, how will I know when the yeast is gone? Also, how do I know when there is a recurrence of the yeast? For my son, it is bms and/or behaviors. Sometimes he exhibits bad bms, other times hyper or other behavior, sometimes both. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 I agree- I never douche either. But, only "douches" I have ever done, and don’t even consider it a douche, is the tea tree oil for yeast. I consider it a mild cleansing and even add a probiotic to it to rebalance yeast. it is a lifesaver.. ----- Original Message ----- From: naturalbeauty38 Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Yeast issues Dear DonnaHi Donna and welcome to the group. I am glad to hear you speak up even though you mostly keep quiet, it is nice to meet you and know that your here to gather info. Are you looking into explant or looking into implants? Either way again WELCOME! First of all I mostly agree with you about not douching, it is definitaly not something we need to do 99% of the time. I never douche ever, but this battle I had going on with the yeast was bad and I really needed to get it under control. I am 39 years old, and even if I wanted more kids I am not sure with my past health issues from implants, that it is something I would even consider. However, my husband and I have 5 kids combined ages ranging from 6-17 so we decided early on NO MORE KIDS and he had a vasectomy, so I am def not having any babies. As for your information, it is really good, and accurate for the most part. Your right the vagina is self cleaning, hee hee, that sounds funny, like a self cleaning oven, and uh huh I was baking some bread in there(ok bad nasty joke) but seriously I had to get it under control, and the tea tree oil was just the perfect thing for me. It worked and I only had to do it twice. I think it was a nice,safe,clean way for me to do this, without all those funky creams and goo that they shove up there like monostat, yuck. Anyhow, I am feeling better, and that is what is important for me. For the young women on here that are still douching, your info is good, and like I said I agree with this, but if someone has a serious yeast issue I still think that a nice tea tree oil douche is a safe way to get it under control. I agree though, one should not douche just to get clean, it is not necessary at all.hugs In , "Donna Wealot" <dwealot@k...> wrote:> I know I'm a quiet member and am here mostly to gather info .. and forgive me for piping up like this, but you should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER douche. Douching cost me my fertility.> > The vagina is a self cleaning organ. That's why women have cervical discharge. That cleans out the vagina. The only part you should clean is the outside of your vagina with mild soap and water and be sure to rinse thoroughly.> > When you douche, you take micororganisms in the vagina that *should* be there and push them farther up into your reproductive tract which can cause horrific damage.> > Please don't douche ESPECIALLY if you plan on having children in the future.> > Donna> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: *~Patty~* > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: Yeast issues> > > Hey girl, did you try the tea tree oil douche? That works quick! It's easy too. You make a one percent solution....I had it all figured out at one time, like a teaspoon of tea tree oil to 2 cups of water or something like that...but it works awesome, and it makes you feel so clean down there!> Try it!> Patty> ----- Original Message ----- > From: naturalbeauty38 > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:17 AM> Subject: Yeast issues> > > Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may recall > last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on very > strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of rocephin > in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on me. > That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I think I > have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a pretty bad > one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like taking > the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly cleared up, > but I still have a little bit of itching and burning externally. It > is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit frustrated> (sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get back in > action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared up > because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any ideas > about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can take in > the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you guys > would be most helpful!> hugs> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 ; my GYN is always warning women not to douche so much so it scares me. So what I've done with the tea tree oil is take very large q-tips and dip them in the oil and water and swab the inside. I works well and I dont feel quilty for douching. Vickie >From: "JOSEPH PALANCA" >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Yeast issues >Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:27:39 -0600 > >I agree- I never douche either. But, only "douches" I have ever done, and don't even consider it a douche, is the tea tree oil for yeast. I consider it a mild cleansing and even add a probiotic to it to rebalance yeast. it is a lifesaver.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: naturalbeauty38 > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: Yeast issues > > > Dear Donna > Hi Donna and welcome to the group. I am glad to hear you speak up > even though you mostly keep quiet, it is nice to meet you and know > that your here to gather info. Are you looking into explant or > looking into implants? Either way again WELCOME! > First of all I mostly agree with you about not douching, it is > definitaly not something we need to do 99% of the time. I never > douche ever, but this battle I had going on with the yeast was bad > and I really needed to get it under control. I am 39 years old, and > even if I wanted more kids I am not sure with my past health issues > from implants, that it is something I would even consider. However, > my husband and I have 5 kids combined ages ranging from 6-17 so we > decided early on NO MORE KIDS and he had a vasectomy, so I am def not > having any babies. As for your information, it is really good, and > accurate for the most part. Your right the vagina is self cleaning, > hee hee, that sounds funny, like a self cleaning oven, and uh huh I > was baking some bread in there(ok bad nasty joke) but seriously I had > to get it under control, and the tea tree oil was just the perfect > thing for me. It worked and I only had to do it twice. I think it was > a nice,safe,clean way for me to do this, without all those funky > creams and goo that they shove up there like monostat, yuck. Anyhow, > I am feeling better, and that is what is important for me. For the > young women on here that are still douching, your info is good, and > like I said I agree with this, but if someone has a serious yeast > issue I still think that a nice tea tree oil douche is a safe way to > get it under control. I agree though, one should not douche just to > get clean, it is not necessary at all. > hugs > > > > > > > > > > In , "Donna Wealot" > wrote: > > I know I'm a quiet member and am here mostly to gather info .. and > forgive me for piping up like this, but you should NEVER EVER EVER > EVER EVER EVER EVER douche. Douching cost me my fertility. > > > > The vagina is a self cleaning organ. That's why women have > cervical discharge. That cleans out the vagina. The only part you > should clean is the outside of your vagina with mild soap and water > and be sure to rinse thoroughly. > > > > When you douche, you take micororganisms in the vagina that > *should* be there and push them farther up into your reproductive > tract which can cause horrific damage. > > > > Please don't douche ESPECIALLY if you plan on having children in > the future. > > > > Donna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: *~Patty~* > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Yeast issues > > > > > > Hey girl, did you try the tea tree oil douche? That works > quick! It's easy too. You make a one percent solution....I had it > all figured out at one time, like a teaspoon of tea tree oil to 2 > cups of water or something like that...but it works awesome, and it > makes you feel so clean down there! > > Try it! > > Patty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: naturalbeauty38 > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:17 AM > > Subject: Yeast issues > > > > > > Hey ladies I was wondering if you guys can help me.As you may > recall > > last week when I had that arm injury(infection) they had me on > very > > strong antibiotics, orally, but also they gave me 3 shots of > rocephin > > in my butt(ouch) and that stuff really had a powerful affect on > me. > > That stuff is way strong. I have been so lucky in my life, I > think I > > have had maybe 2 yeast infections ever! I ended up with a > pretty bad > > one from those shots, and did the things I was told to, like > taking > > the probiotics and eating the yogurt etc, and I am mostly > cleared up, > > but I still have a little bit of itching and burning > externally. It > > is interfering with my sex life and I am getting a bit > frustrated > > (sorry trying to keep this clean) hee hee, but I need to get > back in > > action ladies, I miss sex with my hubby and need this cleared > up > > because the stingy itchiness is not fun! Does anyone have any > ideas > > about what I can do? Is there a soak or something that I can > take in > > the tub? Anything like that? Any and all suggestions from you > guys > > would be most helpful! > > hugs > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 That is actually a really good idea Vickie thanks! In , " Vickie " <vickiemsmith17@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 -- Vicki I just wanted to share my experiences with douching. I heard the same things and never douched much. But several years ago I developed something called vulvadynia. It is a very painful condition of the vulvar area and can ruin your life if it is bad enough. I thought I was getting repeated yeast infections. the monistat and others was making it worse. Then I found a book about yeast and how to control it. The author ---a doctor--said to use a tsp of boric acid in a quart of water as a douche. It was very gentle. I tried it and it helped. Later I tried an even more effective method. He recommended using ORAL nystatin powder -- a tsp in a quart of water. My gynecologist wrote the prescription for me and it has worked great. I use it and it really keeps my vulvadynia under control. I use it maybe 2-4 times a month. jAt first I used it 2-4 times a week. It is much less harsh than creams and suppositories. It helps control the candida. I can tell when i have gone too long because I start to get urinary symptoms. they are caused by a very low level of yeast in normal discharge getting around the urethral area. Using the nystatin douche makes that area feel better. If I don't do anything I will proceed to develop a bladder irritation followee by a bladder infection. I never develop a full blown yeast infection but must always have a low level and this really helps. I hope some day to be able to have a strong enough immune system to repel the candida on my own. It was'nt until I got on the rheumatic site and found that I should be on yeast killers that I realized not only do I have low level vaginal yeast, but systemic yeast. I didn't believe it until I tried things that kill yeast and got the worst herxes! So now I have incorporated olive leaf, oil of oregano, and now coconut into my regimen! So I just wanted to point out that douching can have it place and actually saved me when I was in constant terrrible pain. Douching when there is nothing wrong with you is uncalled for--because as has been mentioned--the vagina is self cleaning. Unfortunately, if your immune system isn't up to par, the vagina won't get rid of candida and other micro-organisms on its own! smiles,kathy - In , " Vickie " <vickiemsmith17@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 kathy, i guess most things are okay in moderation. working for a GYN you see a lot and hear a lot. many women douche to the extreme, like every time they have sex or after their period or just for the hell of it and that's no good. using the large q-tips works so far so i'm gonna stick with that, but we all have to do what works for us. my doc has given nystain powder to patients to use in water as douche but to be used sparingly! Vickie >From: "mikat828" >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Yeast issues >Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:20:35 -0000 > >-- >Vicki >I just wanted to share my experiences with douching. I heard the >same things and never douched much. But several years ago I >developed something called vulvadynia. It is a very painful >condition of the vulvar area and can ruin your life if it is bad >enough. I thought I was getting repeated yeast infections. the >monistat and others was making it worse. Then I found a book about >yeast and how to control it. The author ---a doctor--said to use a >tsp of boric acid in a quart of water as a douche. It was very >gentle. I tried it and it helped. Later I tried an even more >effective method. He recommended using ORAL nystatin powder -- a >tsp in a quart of water. My gynecologist wrote the prescription for >me and it has worked great. I use it and it really keeps my >vulvadynia >under control. I use it maybe 2-4 times a month. jAt first I used >it 2-4 times a week. It is much less >harsh than creams and suppositories. It helps control the candida. >I can tell when i have gone too long because I start to get urinary >symptoms. they are caused by a very low level of yeast in normal >discharge getting around the urethral area. Using the nystatin >douche makes that area feel better. If I don't do anything I will >proceed to develop a bladder irritation followee by a bladder >infection. I never develop a full blown yeast infection but must >always have a low level and this really helps. I hope some day to >be able to have a strong enough immune system to repel the candida >on my own. >It was'nt until I got on the rheumatic site and found that I should >be on yeast killers that I realized not only do I have low level >vaginal yeast, but systemic yeast. I didn't believe it until I >tried things that kill yeast and got the worst herxes! So now I >have incorporated olive leaf, oil of oregano, and now coconut into >my regimen! > >So I just wanted to point out that douching can have it place and >actually saved me when I was in constant terrrible pain. Douching >when there is nothing wrong with you is uncalled for--because as has >been mentioned--the vagina is self cleaning. Unfortunately, if your >immune system isn't up to par, the vagina won't get rid of candida >and other micro-organisms on its own! >smiles,kathy > > > > > > > > > > >- In , "Vickie " > wrote: > > > Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Thanks so much for all the information. It was very kind of you to take so much time to respond. It is more complicated an issue than I thought. > > The topic of treating yeast (aka candida) is huge. At some point an > anti-fungal is probably going to be necessary...many people start with > natural anti-fungals like GSE (grapefruit seed extract) but do them in > rotation. Depending on the severity and type of candida, a prescription > anti-fungal may also be warranted. It is also fundamental to reduce the > amount of sugars and carbohydrates being eaten so as to starve the > candida. Rotating probiotics is also a good idea. > > To know which anti-fungals and probiotics to use and in what quantities > and for how long at a time, it is best to work with a trusted medical > practioner who has experience in treating candida and who knows about > other medical conditions which could conflict with the various > combinations of antifungals and probiotics (i.e. some of these contain > ingredients like casein, gluten, or other allergens). They can also > order fecal digestive tests that can tell you exactly which funghi (or > bacteria) are present and the results usually come with a chart telling > which to which antifungals each responds or does not respond. > > One of my sons, just to give one example, had severe candida and after > many months of various planned treatments for it, we tried one certain > probiotic but it made his stomach bloat up like a balloon about to pop. > This was happening because that particular probiotic went as far as the > colon to do its work and the swelling signaled that we had not finished > killing the candida further up the intestinal track. We had to stop it > and try another one that didn't work as far down and there were no other > problems. > > As for die-off symptoms, I would say that the severity varies greatly > from one person to another, based on their overall conditions. To > control them, you can try activated charcoal - but there are dosing > timing issues with that because when you take it absorbs EVERYTHING > (food, vitamins, whatever you've taken right before) so lots of people > recommend giving it before bed. You also may need to alter antifungal > and/or probiotic dosing, too, to reduce the negative effects. > > Forgive me if I don't elaborate further, but as I stated earlier - it is > a very vast and complex subject. I really think it needs a medical > expert with who to collaborate for the most individualized care. > > Here are a few of the more informative websites that can hopefully > answer with more details some of your questions. Try doing a Google > search for keywords " candida " " candida albicans " " candida and die-off " > and browse more websites from the search results. > > http://breathing.com/articles/candida.htm > http://www.modernherbalist.com/dieoff.html > http://www.mycandida.com/dieoff.htm > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Regarding die-off, if you take activated charcoal (capsules) shortly after yeast treatment (45 minutes?), the charcoal will lessen the bad reaction by soaking up the yeast die-off. The faster you try to conquer the yeast, the bigger die-off reaction you will get. Sometimes you have no choice, as yeast can be a big monster, but if you can go low and slow, do so for your own sanity. I think yeast was a player in 's GI issues (perpetual loose stool before we started the enzymes...), and we did get a big die-off reaction when we introduced the enzymes. We never used anti-fungals, and his BM's are fantastic these days. Thus, it is probably possible to take care of a small-to-medium size yeast problem with just enzymes and probiotics. Check out www.danasview.net? for the whole scoop. She has tons of information on yeast. It's practically an obsession on the enzyme board. in NJ > > Can anyone answer this question about intestinal yeast overgrowth? Is it possible to get rid > of a yeast problem with probiotics alone, or probiotics and enzymes -- or must you always > resort to anti-fungals? > > If you do any of the above, will there always be symptoms of die- off? (And if there are not > symptoms, does that mean that the yeast is not dying?) > > This is a new issue for me, so really know little. Thanks!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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