Re: Coconut oil and calories

[Guest guest]

Well that makes allot more sense, I believe that part could be true,

i don't think i would take the 4 tbs a day though, I think that would

be allot of calories in one day from just fat, good or bad but the 1

tbs a day I think I could work that in just fine. I really am trying

to watch calories but I have good news! My left foot is pain free and

it is really awesome! The right which is the one that was really bad

is still tender but doing pretty good, better than it was for sure. I

got on my spinning bike today for an hour, but kept the tension light

and didn't do any standing or jumping just stayed in the seat. It was

so good to get in a cardio workout and to sweat again! YIPPY! so

hopefully I can get back into working out now, and then I don't have

to worry so much about the calories. My tummy was a little queasy

after my breakfast of eggs and toast (fried in coconut oil) but after

downing a liter and a half of water during my cardio I feel pretty

darned good! I still have all this oil on my scalp, have not washed

it off yet, so I look like an oily mess hee hee, it is good my hubby

is not here to see me!

Anyhow it was kind of nice to spend the weekend doing my little mini

detox stuff with my garlic and my coconut oil, hee hee, it has been

awhile since I had a chance to do this stuff and it feels nice.

hugs

C

- In , " Dave & Patty " <faussettdp@y...>

wrote:

> I wouldn't go so far as to say that calories don't count with

coconut oil...all calories count because you still have to burn

them. But what I think is being said is that the calories from

coconut oil burn differently than other fat calories, such that you

aren't subject to the same kind of weight gain. On the coconut oil

discussion group, there are several MD's. Here is the reply to one

letter from one of the MD's about blood tests that showed lowered

triglycerides: (by the way, VCO is virgin coconut oil)

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Coconut-Info Discussion Group

> coconut-info

> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:59 AM

> Subject: Re: [coconut-info.com] VCO and triglycerides - Sandy-naomi

>

> Coconut-Info Discussion Group <discussiongroup@t...>

> wrote: I just got tested after taking VCO and my cholesterol is

slightly

> down but my triglycerides are way down from 192 to 135. Does VCO

> help there too?

>

> Sandy

> coconut-info/

>

>

> dearest sandy,

>

> i would have like to answer you question to the point. . .but there

are

> variables here that need to be directed... how much VCO did you

take? how

> many hours is the interval between the VCO intake and the blood

exam?. .

> .how long have you been taking VCO?. .when was your last blood exam

prior to

> this results? what is your weight?

>

> anyway. . .let us generalized here. . .taking not into

consideration the

> circumstances presented. . .

>

> VCO is unique in characteristic. . .in its digestion, absorption and

> metabolism. . .

>

> remember the saying " oil and water never mixes " . . .well. . .we

have an

> exemption here. .

>

> MCTs are partly soluble in water. . .this is the reason digestion

starts in

> the mouth. . .and ends in the stomach and upper intestine. . .does

not even

> need an enzyme for digestion. . .

>

> what is more amazing. . .is the absorption. . . it is soluble in

the blood

> and fluids. .goes directly to the liver for faster

burning. . .thereby

> releasing energy. . .completely used up and metabolized!!!

>

> so. . .there are no fats left to be stored nor synthesized. . .in

the cells.. .

>

> therefore. . no precursor for exogenous cholesterol. . nor

triglycerides. .

>

> therefore. . .we expect. . .a decrease in these values. . .

>

> this in simple terms. . .are the incredible marvels and wonders. .

of the

> miraculous VCO. . .

>

> i hope i have enlightened you in this manner. . .

>

> naomi, m.d.

>

> ps. . .please feel free to ask if there are things still to be

clarified. .

[Guest guest]

--

I was happy to hear that your feet are feeling better. Hopefully you

will be totally pain free soon! Take care

kathy

- In , " naturalbeauty38 "

<naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> Well that makes allot more sense, I believe that part could be

true,

> i don't think i would take the 4 tbs a day though, I think that

would

> be allot of calories in one day from just fat, good or bad but the

1

> tbs a day I think I could work that in just fine. I really am

trying

> to watch calories but I have good news! My left foot is pain free

and

> it is really awesome! The right which is the one that was really

bad

> is still tender but doing pretty good, better than it was for

sure. I

> got on my spinning bike today for an hour, but kept the tension

light

> and didn't do any standing or jumping just stayed in the seat. It

was

> so good to get in a cardio workout and to sweat again! YIPPY! so

> hopefully I can get back into working out now, and then I don't

have

> to worry so much about the calories. My tummy was a little queasy

> after my breakfast of eggs and toast (fried in coconut oil) but

after

> downing a liter and a half of water during my cardio I feel pretty

> darned good! I still have all this oil on my scalp, have not

washed

> it off yet, so I look like an oily mess hee hee, it is good my

hubby

> is not here to see me!

> Anyhow it was kind of nice to spend the weekend doing my little

mini

> detox stuff with my garlic and my coconut oil, hee hee, it has

been

> awhile since I had a chance to do this stuff and it feels nice.

> hugs

> C

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , " Dave & Patty "

<faussettdp@y...>

> wrote:

> > I wouldn't go so far as to say that calories don't count with

> coconut oil...all calories count because you still have to burn

> them. But what I think is being said is that the calories from

> coconut oil burn differently than other fat calories, such that

you

> aren't subject to the same kind of weight gain. On the coconut

oil

> discussion group, there are several MD's. Here is the reply to

one

> letter from one of the MD's about blood tests that showed lowered

> triglycerides: (by the way, VCO is virgin coconut oil)

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Coconut-Info Discussion Group

> > coconut-info

> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:59 AM

> > Subject: Re: [coconut-info.com] VCO and triglycerides - Sandy-

naomi

> >

> > Coconut-Info Discussion Group <discussiongroup@t...>

> > wrote: I just got tested after taking VCO and my cholesterol is

> slightly

> > down but my triglycerides are way down from 192 to 135. Does VCO

> > help there too?

> >

> > Sandy

> > coconut-info/

> >

> >

> > dearest sandy,

> >

> > i would have like to answer you question to the point. . .but

there

> are

> > variables here that need to be directed... how much VCO did you

> take? how

> > many hours is the interval between the VCO intake and the blood

> exam?. .

> > .how long have you been taking VCO?. .when was your last blood

exam

> prior to

> > this results? what is your weight?

> >

> > anyway. . .let us generalized here. . .taking not into

> consideration the

> > circumstances presented. . .

> >

> > VCO is unique in characteristic. . .in its digestion, absorption

and

> > metabolism. . .

> >

> > remember the saying " oil and water never mixes " . . .well. . .we

> have an

> > exemption here. .

> >

> > MCTs are partly soluble in water. . .this is the reason

digestion

> starts in

> > the mouth. . .and ends in the stomach and upper

intestine. . .does

> not even

> > need an enzyme for digestion. . .

> >

> > what is more amazing. . .is the absorption. . . it is soluble

in

> the blood

> > and fluids. .goes directly to the liver for faster

> burning. . .thereby

> > releasing energy. . .completely used up and metabolized!!!

> >

> > so. . .there are no fats left to be stored nor

synthesized. . .in

> the cells.. .

> >

> > therefore. . no precursor for exogenous cholesterol. . nor

> triglycerides. .

> >

> > therefore. . .we expect. . .a decrease in these values. . .

> >

> > this in simple terms. . .are the incredible marvels and

wonders. .

> of the

> > miraculous VCO. . .

> >

> > i hope i have enlightened you in this manner. . .

> >

> > naomi, m.d.

> >

> > ps. . .please feel free to ask if there are things still to be

> clarified. .

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathy,

My right foot is still hurting but it is about the same as before so

it is not like I am disabled because of it. It just hurts esp in

certain shoes. I am able to work out again which is really important

to me. I don't do well without my workouts, I start to get very crazy!

hugs

C

- In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...> wrote:

> --

>

> I was happy to hear that your feet are feeling better. Hopefully

you

> will be totally pain free soon! Take care

> kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , " naturalbeauty38 "

> <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> > Well that makes allot more sense, I believe that part could be

> true,

> > i don't think i would take the 4 tbs a day though, I think that

> would

> > be allot of calories in one day from just fat, good or bad but

the

> 1

> > tbs a day I think I could work that in just fine. I really am

> trying

> > to watch calories but I have good news! My left foot is pain free

> and

> > it is really awesome! The right which is the one that was really

> bad

> > is still tender but doing pretty good, better than it was for

> sure. I

> > got on my spinning bike today for an hour, but kept the tension

> light

> > and didn't do any standing or jumping just stayed in the seat. It

> was

> > so good to get in a cardio workout and to sweat again! YIPPY! so

> > hopefully I can get back into working out now, and then I don't

> have

> > to worry so much about the calories. My tummy was a little queasy

> > after my breakfast of eggs and toast (fried in coconut oil) but

> after

> > downing a liter and a half of water during my cardio I feel

pretty

> > darned good! I still have all this oil on my scalp, have not

> washed

> > it off yet, so I look like an oily mess hee hee, it is good my

> hubby

> > is not here to see me!

> > Anyhow it was kind of nice to spend the weekend doing my little

> mini

> > detox stuff with my garlic and my coconut oil, hee hee, it has

> been

> > awhile since I had a chance to do this stuff and it feels nice.

> > hugs

> > C

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > - In , " Dave & Patty "

> <faussettdp@y...>

> > wrote:

> > > I wouldn't go so far as to say that calories don't count with

> > coconut oil...all calories count because you still have to burn

> > them. But what I think is being said is that the calories from

> > coconut oil burn differently than other fat calories, such that

> you

> > aren't subject to the same kind of weight gain. On the coconut

> oil

> > discussion group, there are several MD's. Here is the reply to

> one

> > letter from one of the MD's about blood tests that showed lowered

> > triglycerides: (by the way, VCO is virgin coconut oil)

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Coconut-Info Discussion Group

> > > coconut-info

> > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:59 AM

> > > Subject: Re: [coconut-info.com] VCO and triglycerides - Sandy-

> naomi

> > >

> > > Coconut-Info Discussion Group <discussiongroup@t...>

> > > wrote: I just got tested after taking VCO and my cholesterol is

> > slightly

> > > down but my triglycerides are way down from 192 to 135. Does

VCO

> > > help there too?

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > > coconut-info/

> > >

> > >

> > > dearest sandy,

> > >

> > > i would have like to answer you question to the point. . .but

> there

> > are

> > > variables here that need to be directed... how much VCO did you

> > take? how

> > > many hours is the interval between the VCO intake and the blood

> > exam?. .

> > > .how long have you been taking VCO?. .when was your last blood

> exam

> > prior to

> > > this results? what is your weight?

> > >

> > > anyway. . .let us generalized here. . .taking not into

> > consideration the

> > > circumstances presented. . .

> > >

> > > VCO is unique in characteristic. . .in its digestion,

absorption

> and

> > > metabolism. . .

> > >

> > > remember the saying " oil and water never mixes " . . .well. . .we

> > have an

> > > exemption here. .

> > >

> > > MCTs are partly soluble in water. . .this is the reason

> digestion

> > starts in

> > > the mouth. . .and ends in the stomach and upper

> intestine. . .does

> > not even

> > > need an enzyme for digestion. . .

> > >

> > > what is more amazing. . .is the absorption. . . it is soluble

> in

> > the blood

> > > and fluids. .goes directly to the liver for faster

> > burning. . .thereby

> > > releasing energy. . .completely used up and metabolized!!!

> > >

> > > so. . .there are no fats left to be stored nor

> synthesized. . .in

> > the cells.. .

> > >

> > > therefore. . no precursor for exogenous cholesterol. . nor

> > triglycerides. .

> > >

> > > therefore. . .we expect. . .a decrease in these values. . .

> > >

> > > this in simple terms. . .are the incredible marvels and

> wonders. .

> > of the

> > > miraculous VCO. . .

> > >

> > > i hope i have enlightened you in this manner. . .

> > >

> > > naomi, m.d.

> > >

> > > ps. . .please feel free to ask if there are things still to be

> > clarified. .

[Guest guest]

--

Did the docs tell you how long it would be before you knew if it

would actually make the pain go away? I mean maybe it will get

better over time? Is that a possibility with this procedure? Oh, I

also wanted to ask you if you have tried reflexology? I know that

involves pressing and massaging the foot. When my foot hurts really

bad I take a racquetball---it has to be a racquetball---and place it

on the floor. then I press my foot on it and rotate the ball under

my foot. I can control the pressure and find the trigger points

causing the pain. it hurts at first, but then feels much better!

cAn't hurt to give it a try.

I should mention to everyone that Bonnie Prudden has written an

excellent book called MYOTHERAPY. She also has a similar book

entitled Pain Erasure. Both deal extensiviely with pain issues and

trigger points. I have had fms for over 20 years and this book has

saved me countless hours of pain. I use it on my family too. It is

very technical but shows how to find what is causing pain anywhere

on your body---that is muscle pain--and press on the point where it

is coming from to break the pain cycle. IT WORKS, IT REALLY WORKS!

I would also say that alot of muscle pain is misinterpreted as joint

pain or other causes of pain. Tendon pain is often misattributed to

joint pain. I think the author describes how to tell what the pain

is coming from. I say it can't hurt to give it a try! Most

libraries have these 2 books. They are worth their weight in gold.

smiles,kathy

- In , " naturalbeauty38 "

<naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> Thanks Kathy,

> My right foot is still hurting but it is about the same as before

so

> it is not like I am disabled because of it. It just hurts esp in

> certain shoes. I am able to work out again which is really

important

> to me. I don't do well without my workouts, I start to get very

crazy!

> hugs

> C

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...>

wrote:

> > --

> >

> > I was happy to hear that your feet are feeling better. Hopefully

> you

> > will be totally pain free soon! Take care

> > kathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > - In , " naturalbeauty38 "

> > <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> > > Well that makes allot more sense, I believe that part could be

> > true,

> > > i don't think i would take the 4 tbs a day though, I think

that

> > would

> > > be allot of calories in one day from just fat, good or bad but

> the

> > 1

> > > tbs a day I think I could work that in just fine. I really am

> > trying

> > > to watch calories but I have good news! My left foot is pain

free

> > and

> > > it is really awesome! The right which is the one that was

really

> > bad

> > > is still tender but doing pretty good, better than it was for

> > sure. I

> > > got on my spinning bike today for an hour, but kept the

tension

> > light

> > > and didn't do any standing or jumping just stayed in the seat.

It

> > was

> > > so good to get in a cardio workout and to sweat again! YIPPY!

so

> > > hopefully I can get back into working out now, and then I

don't

> > have

> > > to worry so much about the calories. My tummy was a little

queasy

> > > after my breakfast of eggs and toast (fried in coconut oil)

but

> > after

> > > downing a liter and a half of water during my cardio I feel

> pretty

> > > darned good! I still have all this oil on my scalp, have not

> > washed

> > > it off yet, so I look like an oily mess hee hee, it is good my

> > hubby

> > > is not here to see me!

> > > Anyhow it was kind of nice to spend the weekend doing my

little

> > mini

> > > detox stuff with my garlic and my coconut oil, hee hee, it has

> > been

> > > awhile since I had a chance to do this stuff and it feels nice.

> > > hugs

> > > C

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > - In , " Dave & Patty "

> > <faussettdp@y...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > I wouldn't go so far as to say that calories don't count

with

> > > coconut oil...all calories count because you still have to

burn

> > > them. But what I think is being said is that the calories

from

> > > coconut oil burn differently than other fat calories, such

that

> > you

> > > aren't subject to the same kind of weight gain. On the

coconut

> > oil

> > > discussion group, there are several MD's. Here is the reply

to

> > one

> > > letter from one of the MD's about blood tests that showed

lowered

> > > triglycerides: (by the way, VCO is virgin coconut oil)

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: Coconut-Info Discussion Group

> > > > coconut-info

> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:59 AM

> > > > Subject: Re: [coconut-info.com] VCO and triglycerides -

Sandy-

> > naomi

> > > >

> > > > Coconut-Info Discussion Group <discussiongroup@t...>

> > > > wrote: I just got tested after taking VCO and my cholesterol

is

> > > slightly

> > > > down but my triglycerides are way down from 192 to 135.

Does

> VCO

> > > > help there too?

> > > >

> > > > Sandy

> > > > coconut-info/

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dearest sandy,

> > > >

> > > > i would have like to answer you question to the

point. . .but

> > there

> > > are

> > > > variables here that need to be directed... how much VCO did

you

> > > take? how

> > > > many hours is the interval between the VCO intake and the

blood

> > > exam?. .

> > > > .how long have you been taking VCO?. .when was your last

blood

> > exam

> > > prior to

> > > > this results? what is your weight?

> > > >

> > > > anyway. . .let us generalized here. . .taking not into

> > > consideration the

> > > > circumstances presented. . .

> > > >

> > > > VCO is unique in characteristic. . .in its digestion,

> absorption

> > and

> > > > metabolism. . .

> > > >

> > > > remember the saying " oil and water never

mixes " . . .well. . .we

> > > have an

> > > > exemption here. .

> > > >

> > > > MCTs are partly soluble in water. . .this is the reason

> > digestion

> > > starts in

> > > > the mouth. . .and ends in the stomach and upper

> > intestine. . .does

> > > not even

> > > > need an enzyme for digestion. . .

> > > >

> > > > what is more amazing. . .is the absorption. . . it is

soluble

> > in

> > > the blood

> > > > and fluids. .goes directly to the liver for faster

> > > burning. . .thereby

> > > > releasing energy. . .completely used up and metabolized!!!

> > > >

> > > > so. . .there are no fats left to be stored nor

> > synthesized. . .in

> > > the cells.. .

> > > >

> > > > therefore. . no precursor for exogenous cholesterol. . nor

> > > triglycerides. .

> > > >

> > > > therefore. . .we expect. . .a decrease in these values. . .

> > > >

> > > > this in simple terms. . .are the incredible marvels and

> > wonders. .

> > > of the

> > > > miraculous VCO. . .

> > > >

> > > > i hope i have enlightened you in this manner. . .

> > > >

> > > > naomi, m.d.

> > > >

> > > > ps. . .please feel free to ask if there are things still to

be

> > > clarified. .

[Guest guest]

Hi , I asked the same questions about a week ago. My post are titled

Calories following the plan or something to that effect you should be able to

see Bee's responses to my concerns there. I have been cooking CO and butter

and taking a addition tablespoon or 2 as needed to meet the fat requirements.

I was very concerned as well but I have not gained any weight in the past week,

in fact I have lost 6 lbs. I keep my fat up to at least my minimum which is 185,

carbs below 50, and protein around 74. It took me a few days to get the hang of

eating this way but it has been very successful and I feel really good after

only a week.

>

> i've recently been cooking with co and also taking 6TB daily. will the

calories in the oil cause weight gain as i have heard?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

i've been taking 6 Tbs (90 g) of coconut oil and 4-6 Tbs of butter every day for

the last 6 months. i might not lose weight as fast as i'd hope but i'm not

gaining any.

to gain weight, it takes a certain level of insulin to instruct the cells to

store energy. insulin is triggered by elevated blood sugar level and it takes

carbs to bring about that surge of sugar in the blood. fat doesn't create such

insulin response. an other thing i found about good fats is that it curbs carb

cravings.

do you enter everything you eat into a calorie counter like FitDAy? i wasn't at

first and i was eating far more carbs from veggies then i thought.

hope it helps a bit. Bee or someone else probably has more info on the subject

all the best

Chantal

>

> i've recently been cooking with co and also taking 6TB daily. will the

calories in the oil cause weight gain as i have heard?

>