Re: Citalopram

[Guest guest]

,

My nurse practisioner just gave me info on medicine assistance. Here is the

website & PDF application to fill out, then have your doctor sign and then mail

it in. My nurse told me it is very helpful. According to the home page, you can

receive three months of perscription for free (if you qualify).

May God bless you in finding assistance to stay on the Lexapro!!!

I'm praying for you!

Cathie

http://www.forestpharm.com/pap/

http://www.needymeds.com/papforms/forepa0075.pdf

Stone <julies_stone@...> wrote:

Hello all, I am new to the board. My insurance won't pay for Lexapro,

but will pay for Citalopram. I was wondering what differences there

are between the two. I have been having really good luck with the

Lexapro, but am almost out of my samples. I'd love any information

about experiences switching from one to the other. I am nervous to

switch b/c this is my first time on AD's and I don't know what to

expect.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

It's renewable every 3 to 6 months depending on which program your on. Go to the

main site http://www.lexapro.com There is more info there.

Barbara

Re: Citalopram

,

My nurse practisioner just gave me info on medicine assistance. Here is the

website & PDF application to fill out, then have your doctor sign and then mail

it in. My nurse told me it is very helpful. According to the home page, you can

receive three months of perscription for free (if you qualify).

May God bless you in finding assistance to stay on the Lexapro!!!

I'm praying for you!

Cathie

http://www.forestpharm.com/pap/

http://www.needymeds.com/papforms/forepa0075.pdf

Stone <julies_stone@...> wrote:

Hello all, I am new to the board. My insurance won't pay for Lexapro,

but will pay for Citalopram. I was wondering what differences there

are between the two. I have been having really good luck with the

Lexapro, but am almost out of my samples. I'd love any information

about experiences switching from one to the other. I am nervous to

switch b/c this is my first time on AD's and I don't know what to

expect.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

& Barbara,

I just found another website that helps you fill out all the needed

information on multiple perscriptions, then gives you the option to print all

the 'pre-filled' enrollment forms. I was shocked at how easy it was. The same

address I gave below is listed on the website that is for 'multiple'

perscriptions.

https://www.pparx.org/about.php

Have a Blessed Evening!

Cathie

Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote:

It's renewable every 3 to 6 months depending on which program your on. Go to

the main site http://www.lexapro.com There is more info there.

Barbara

Re: Citalopram

,

My nurse practisioner just gave me info on medicine assistance. Here is the

website & PDF application to fill out, then have your doctor sign and then mail

it in. My nurse told me it is very helpful. According to the home page, you can

receive three months of perscription for free (if you qualify).

May God bless you in finding assistance to stay on the Lexapro!!!

I'm praying for you!

Cathie

http://www.forestpharm.com/pap/

http://www.needymeds.com/papforms/forepa0075.pdf

Stone wrote:

Hello all, I am new to the board. My insurance won't pay for Lexapro,

but will pay for Citalopram. I was wondering what differences there

are between the two. I have been having really good luck with the

Lexapro, but am almost out of my samples. I'd love any information

about experiences switching from one to the other. I am nervous to

switch b/c this is my first time on AD's and I don't know what to

expect.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Wonderful! You might want to post that in the links section of the group! Very

handy info to have. Thanks for posting that.

Barbara

Re: Citalopram

,

My nurse practisioner just gave me info on medicine assistance. Here is the

website & PDF application to fill out, then have your doctor sign and then mail

it in. My nurse told me it is very helpful. According to the home page, you can

receive three months of perscription for free (if you qualify).

May God bless you in finding assistance to stay on the Lexapro!!!

I'm praying for you!

Cathie

http://www.forestpharm.com/pap/

http://www.needymeds.com/papforms/forepa0075.pdf

Stone wrote:

Hello all, I am new to the board. My insurance won't pay for Lexapro,

but will pay for Citalopram. I was wondering what differences there

are between the two. I have been having really good luck with the

Lexapro, but am almost out of my samples. I'd love any information

about experiences switching from one to the other. I am nervous to

switch b/c this is my first time on AD's and I don't know what to

expect.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. Have any of you tried Citalopram, if so, what was it like?

Did it help, any bad side effects, etc? The insurance wanted my doc to fill out

this questionnaire. Apparently since I haven't tried other SSRI's they don't

want to pay for the Lex b/c the other stuff is so much cheaper.

Cathie <whycathie1966@...> wrote: ,

My nurse practisioner just gave me info on medicine assistance. Here is the

website & PDF application to fill out, then have your doctor sign and then mail

it in. My nurse told me it is very helpful. According to the home page, you can

receive three months of perscription for free (if you qualify).

May God bless you in finding assistance to stay on the Lexapro!!!

I'm praying for you!

Cathie

http://www.forestpharm.com/pap/

http://www.needymeds.com/papforms/forepa0075.pdf

Stone <julies_stone@...> wrote:

Hello all, I am new to the board. My insurance won't pay for Lexapro,

but will pay for Citalopram. I was wondering what differences there

are between the two. I have been having really good luck with the

Lexapro, but am almost out of my samples. I'd love any information

about experiences switching from one to the other. I am nervous to

switch b/c this is my first time on AD's and I don't know what to

expect.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hello

Blackie

Not

everybody does well on levothyroxine alone. Thyroxine is an IONACTIVE hormone

that has to convert to the ACTIVE thyroid hormone T3. it is T3 that every cell

in the body and brain needs to make everything function. Thyroxine converts

mainly in the liver, kidneys, brain and other thyroid hormone receptors

throughout the body. A large minority though are unable to convert for various

reasons and it is a case of going through the following by way of a process of

elimination to find the cause for your present suffering and to do whatever is

needed to put things right. Some of us need synthetic T3 adding to our T4, use

T3 on its own, or treat using natural thyroid extract.

The

main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from working, is, quite

simply, a patients thyroxine dose is too low because the doctor or consultant

refuses to increase it, because the serum thyroid function test results appear

OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too high, yet patients still don't feel

well. They continue to suffer. Some reasons for this:

They may be suffering

with low adrenal reserve. The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the

receptor uptake requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of

course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) This

is what happens if the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of

cortisone usually switches it on again. But sometimes it

doesn’t. If the illness has been going on for a long time, the

enzyme seems to fail. This conversion failure (inexplicably denied by

many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it

doesn’t work, and T4 toxicosis results. This makes the patient feel quite

unwell, toxic, often with palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal

support doesn’t remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of

the active thyroid hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or

natural.

Then, we have

systemic candidiasis. This is where candida albicans, a yeast, which causes

skin infections almost anywhere in the body, invades the lining of the lower

part of the small intestine and the large intestine. Here, the candida

sets up residence in the warmth and the dark, and demands to be fed.

Loving sugars and starches, candida can make you suffer terrible sweet

cravings. Candida can produce toxins which can cause very many symptoms

of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which interfere with the uptake

of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the levels - which we usually

test for - can be very high, and make successful treatment difficult to achieve

until adequately treated.

Then there is

receptor resistance which could be a culprit. Being hypothyroid for some

considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding

of T3 to the receptors, is downgraded - so the T3 won’t go in. With

slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and

minerals, the receptors do come on line again. But this can be quite a

slow process, and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually.

And then there are

Food allergies. The most common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein

fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by the body, by a process of

molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes

thyroxine) and shuts it down. So allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid.

There may be other food allergies with this kind of effect, but information on

these is scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain foods can affect

adrenal function and imperil thyroid production and uptake.

Then we have hormone

imbalances. The whole of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs

the other parts to be operating normally to work properly. An example of

this we have seen already, with cortisone. But another example is the

operation of sex hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause

with progesterone running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a

further case in point – oestrogen dominance downgrades production,

transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism

may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which

is then treated – often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing

worse. Deficiency in progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with,

since it reverses oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like

sweats and mood swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural

progesterone cream is easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of

helping to stabilise adrenal function.

Then, we must never

forget the possibility of mercury poisoning (through amalgam fillings) - low

levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc

- all of which, if low, stop the thyroid hormone from being utilised by the

cells - these have to be treated.

As Dr Peatfield says

" When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these problems have

to be dealt with; and since each may affect the other, it all has to be done

rather carefully.

Contrary

to cherished beliefs by much of the medical establishment, the correction of a

thyroid deficiency state has a number of complexities and variables, which make

the treatment usually quite specific for each person. The balancing of

these variables is as much up to you as to me – which is why a check of

morning, day and evening temperatures and pulse rates, together with symptoms,

good and bad, can be so helpful.

Many

of you have been ill for a long time, either because you have not been

diagnosed, or the treatment leaves you still quite unwell. Those of you

who have relatively mild hypothyroidism, and have been diagnosed relatively

quickly, may well respond to synthetic thyroxine, the standard treatment.

I am therefore unlikely to see you; since if the thyroxine proves satisfactory

in use, it is merely a question of dosage.

For

many of you, the outstanding problem is not that the diagnosis has not been

made – although, extraordinarily, this is disgracefully common –

but that is has, and the thyroxine treatment doesn’t work. The dose

has been altered up and down, and clinical improvement is variable and

doesn’t last, in spite of blood tests, which say you are perfectly all

right (and therefore you are actually depressed and need this fine

antidepressant).

The

above problems must be eliminated if thyroid hormone isn't working for you.

Luv

- Sheila

Hi i'm new on this and finding my way around

clumsily. i'm not good with p.c.'s. i am 49 male and been hypo for about 8

years since heart attack 9 years ago. On aspirin,Ramipril,

atorvastatin,bisoprolol,loperamide, and Levothyroxine (recently dropped from

150 to 125). now on citalopram 20, i think it helps.i have had good reason to

suffer with anxiety due to recent events ( deaths and illnesses in family).

i want to know what levels to look for and ask for from the doc so i could get

your opinions. who knows i may be being treated correct? but its worth a second

opinion.

he has agreed to check my T3, B12 and ferratin levels on my next blood test.

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