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Hi, I am new here and I wanted to comment on this posting. I don't agree

with your statement that 15-20 years ago, when we didn't have these meds,

people did just fine.

I'm a 57 year old woman who was raised by parents who grew up in the

depression and went to war. Two big heavy weights. Unfortunately, because

of the PTSD that the service men got in combat, the wives and children who

had to put up with their angry drunken and abusive tirades. This in turn

created dysfunctional, abusive homes. If those meds had been available then

my generation wouldn't all be in recovery healing from the depression and

dysfunction and the abuse that we all had to contend with while growing up

in those homes. Thank God for those meds now. I am on Celexa and a whole

assortment of psychotropic drugs to quell my flashbacks, nightmares, and

body memories. I would be in an institution now if it weren't for the meds.

But the generations before us WERE NOT O.K. I'm living proof of such. I was

terribly abused as a child because I had a rare and severe skin disease

that couldn't be treated or cured. My parents drank alcoholicly and abused

me instead of taking me to a doctor and finding help. So, don't tell me

that the previous generations past did well without AD's because they DIDN'T

!! Many of us carry the legacy of the abuse and suffer from flashbacks on

a daily basis...the legacy left over from the generation of parents who " did

just fine " without meds.

Sue C

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barbara,

you must have not read all of my post. Please go back and read the

post and try answering some of the questions that I listed, besides

trying to bash me.

Obvioulsy my post did not apply to you if the drugs happend to truely

help you. My post was for all those kids and adults whom are being

put on these drugs each day just to cope with their daily issues and

are being told by their doctors after only a 30 minute office visit

that they need these drugs, when in reality they may not, and may only

have a case of temporary depression due to issues in their life that

we all deal with. Keep in mind that 15-30 years ago, we didnt have

them and the general public (not those whom truelly need them did fine

without them). TOday, it seems like these are the way of life. Many

high school kids are taking them, so on and so on.

Like I said before....I am sure these drugs have helped many many

people like yourself. I was only refering to the other greater half.

I knew my post was gona piss some people off and that was not my

intention. I just wanted to make a point that there are lots of

people taking these pills that really don't need to.

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How do you know people don't need to take these meds? do you know what their

past was like ?, do you know whether they may have been sexually abused or

molested as a child ? What may seem like an everyday common stressor to you

might be a serious issue for those who take meds. do you know whether or

not they might have been severely emotionally abused as a kid and suffer

flashbacks ? In today's complex society with a war going on and general

unrest in this country, this generation faces a whole different set of

stressors than we did when we were younger. I think these are difficult

times for us financially, politically, and socially. People today are

facing some difficult challenges and if a white pill is what it takes to

cope with life so that they can get thru it in a reasonably functional way,

then I say go for it. It's just too bad this stuff wasn't available years

ago. Also, I'm getting tired of being around chronically depressed and

angry people who don't know they are depressed and don't believe in meds or

therapy. They go thru their daily lives raising havoc with those near and

dear to them because they won't go for help.

Sue C.

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your money

barbara,

you must have not read all of my post. Please go back and read the

post and try answering some of the questions that I listed, besides

trying to bash me.

Obvioulsy my post did not apply to you if the drugs happend to truely

help you. My post was for all those kids and adults whom are being

put on these drugs each day just to cope with their daily issues and

are being told by their doctors after only a 30 minute office visit

that they need these drugs, when in reality they may not, and may only

have a case of temporary depression due to issues in their life that

we all deal with. Keep in mind that 15-30 years ago, we didnt have

them and the general public (not those whom truelly need them did fine

without them). TOday, it seems like these are the way of life. Many

high school kids are taking them, so on and so on.

Like I said before....I am sure these drugs have helped many many

people like yourself. I was only refering to the other greater half.

I knew my post was gona piss some people off and that was not my

intention. I just wanted to make a point that there are lots of

people taking these pills that really don't need to.

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Sue,

So well put. I have had the same experience. I lived with a mentally abuse

spouse for 14 years. If I would have known about these drugs then we could

have gotten him some help and may still be together. Instead, it ended in a

divorce and he is in and out of mental hospitals to this day. I take

Lexapro and feel that it is my lifesaver. Thanks for speaking out. I also

took offense to the previous posting.

Diann

> Hi, I am new here and I wanted to comment on this posting. I don't agree

> with your statement that 15-20 years ago, when we didn't have these meds,

> people did just fine.

>

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I'm new. I am 51 and currenty on 20mg of Lexapro. I have Gad. I also have

an abusive husband. Emotional and verbal. He started when he got out of the

military in 1985 after being in 14 years. I guess he directed his anger

towards me. I go to personal counciling. She suggested that I try Lexapro.

So far no really bad side affects. I get tired in the evening to the point I

just have to go to sleep. My energy just drains from me. I don't feel like

the world is caving in on me, like I use to or having crying episodes.

Recently I have become itchy. My back has little bumps along my spine. Don't

know if that is due to Lexapro or using Tide clothes soap. But I am still

have the Gad. Not driving, social anxiety and staying in the house. Debbie

" Live in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan

says, 'OH, NO, SHE " S AWAKE!' "

>From: " Diann Young " <lhasamommy2@...>

>Reply-Lexapro

><Lexapro >

>Subject: Re: Re: Industry's way to get you hooked in order to

>take your money

>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:20:52 -0700

>

>Sue,

>

>So well put. I have had the same experience. I lived with a mentally

>abuse

>spouse for 14 years. If I would have known about these drugs then we could

>have gotten him some help and may still be together. Instead, it ended in

>a

>divorce and he is in and out of mental hospitals to this day. I take

>Lexapro and feel that it is my lifesaver. Thanks for speaking out. I also

>took offense to the previous posting.

>

>Diann

>

> > Hi, I am new here and I wanted to comment on this posting. I don't

>agree

> > with your statement that 15-20 years ago, when we didn't have these

>meds,

> > people did just fine.

> >

> >

>

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Debbie,

As Dr. Phil would say, you need to get out of that abusive situation. I have

been there

& I'm a male. Please take someone's advice & save yourself before you wind up in

the news.

People care about you even though they don't know you. I wish this computer

stuff was availible when I was going through it.

Life is too short to be treated like a fungus !

Best Wishes,

G.

I'm new. I am 51 and currenty on 20mg of Lexapro. I have Gad. I also have

an abusive husband. Emotional and verbal. He started when he got out of the

military in 1985 after being in 14 years. I guess he directed his anger

towards me. I go to personal counciling. She suggested that I try Lexapro.

So far no really bad side affects. I get tired in the evening to the point I

just have to go to sleep. My energy just drains from me. I don't feel like

the world is caving in on me, like I use to or having crying episodes.

Recently I have become itchy. My back has little bumps along my spine. Don't

know if that is due to Lexapro or using Tide clothes soap. But I am still

have the Gad. Not driving, social anxiety and staying in the house. Debbie

" Live in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan

says, 'OH, NO, SHE " S AWAKE!' "

>From: " Diann Young " <lhasamommy2@...>

>Reply-Lexapro

><Lexapro >

>Subject: Re: Re: Industry's way to get you hooked in order to

>take your money

>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:20:52 -0700

>

>Sue,

>

>So well put. I have had the same experience. I lived with a mentally

>abuse

>spouse for 14 years. If I would have known about these drugs then we could

>have gotten him some help and may still be together. Instead, it ended in

>a

>divorce and he is in and out of mental hospitals to this day. I take

>Lexapro and feel that it is my lifesaver. Thanks for speaking out. I also

>took offense to the previous posting.

>

>Diann

>

> > Hi, I am new here and I wanted to comment on this posting. I don't

>agree

> > with your statement that 15-20 years ago, when we didn't have these

>meds,

> > people did just fine.

> >

> >

>

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Depression and anxiety/panic disorders can be caused by severe, prolonged

stress. What else would you call an abusive situation? It's very easy for

you to sit there and tell everyone what they should be doing. But it's not

that simple. Who are you to judge who needs these drugs and who doesn't? As

to how we know who needs these kinds of pills? I'd trust my doctor before

I'd trust someone like you who has no education in the medical field.

Opinions are like a$$holes.....everyone has one.

BTW, not everyone on this board is in an abusive relationship.

In my judgement and opinion you have no business on this board.

Barbara

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your money

>

>> Debbie,

>>

>> As Dr. Phil would say, you need to get out of that abusive

> situation. I have been there

>> & I'm a male. Please take someone's advice & save yourself before

> you wind up in the news.

>

> --->Thank you very much for a great reply. I am shocked of what I

> have been reading on this list. Everyone saying that they are taking

> pills cause of their abusive sitations/relationships. Its insane !!!

>

> The best cure is " GET OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP " , not rely on drugs !!

>

> I dont even know why I bother replying since some of you dont even

> seem to read my post. I also asked the question of how do we know

> who really needs the pills??? No body replied to me with answers to

> the many questions I asked, only bashing.

>

> They only people whom truely need the drugs are those with brains

> that dont function like it should, not cause of daily problems, bad

> husbands or boyfriends.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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I'm not in an abusive relationship, I am the product of one.

And the daily stressors are called life, but most people who are on meds are

on them because they cannot cope with life because of the emotional baggage

they carry inside of them. We cannot see another person's depression. We

cannot see their past and know what they've been through. We cannot see into

their heads to see what obsessive thoughts one might have. Depression isn't

a character flaw or a weak will. Depression is a treatable chemical

imbalance. Diabetics have to take insulin on a daily basis to regulate

their body chemistries (sugar). It's the same thing with depression. It's a

chemical imbalance that can be corrected with daily medication. I really

think we need to get off of this thing about who needs meds and who doesn't.

It is contributing nothing positive to this board. All we should really

need to know is whether WE (individuals..self) need meds. Instead of

pointing the finger and deciding who does and doesn't need them, let's just

focus on our OWN depression and treatment and talk about that instead.

Thanks,

Sue C

-- Re: Industry's way to get you hooked in order to take

your money

> Debbie,

>

> As Dr. Phil would say, you need to get out of that abusive

situation. I have been there

> & I'm a male. Please take someone's advice & save yourself before

you wind up in the news.

--->Thank you very much for a great reply. I am shocked of what I

have been reading on this list. Everyone saying that they are taking

pills cause of their abusive sitations/relationships. Its insane !!!

The best cure is " GET OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP " , not rely on drugs !!

I dont even know why I bother replying since some of you dont even

seem to read my post. I also asked the question of how do we know

who really needs the pills??? No body replied to me with answers to

the many questions I asked, only bashing.

They only people whom truely need the drugs are those with brains

that dont function like it should, not cause of daily problems, bad

husbands or boyfriends.

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I'm just wondering if certain behaviors are not due to a chemical inbalence

but defense mechanisms we learn due to abuse. Lexapro has helped the

feelings of hopelessness and crying but the Anxiety issues are still there.

Debbie

" Live in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan

says, 'OH, NO, SHE " S AWAKE!' "

>From: " bozelda@... " <bozelda@...>

>Reply-Lexapro

><Lexapro >

>Subject: Re: Re: Industry's way to get you hooked in order to

>take your money

>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:03:42 -0500

>

>Debbie,

>

>As Dr. Phil would say, you need to get out of that abusive situation. I

>have been there

> & I'm a male. Please take someone's advice & save yourself before you wind

>up in the news.

>People care about you even though they don't know you. I wish this computer

>stuff was availible when I was going through it.

>Life is too short to be treated like a fungus !

>

>

>Best Wishes,

>

> G.

>

>

> I'm new. I am 51 and currenty on 20mg of Lexapro. I have Gad. I also

>have

> an abusive husband. Emotional and verbal. He started when he got out of

>the

> military in 1985 after being in 14 years. I guess he directed his anger

> towards me. I go to personal counciling. She suggested that I try

>Lexapro.

> So far no really bad side affects. I get tired in the evening to the

>point I

> just have to go to sleep. My energy just drains from me. I don't feel

>like

> the world is caving in on me, like I use to or having crying episodes.

> Recently I have become itchy. My back has little bumps along my spine.

>Don't

> know if that is due to Lexapro or using Tide clothes soap. But I am

>still

> have the Gad. Not driving, social anxiety and staying in the house.

>Debbie

>

>

>

> " Live in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor in the morning,

>Satan

> says, 'OH, NO, SHE " S AWAKE!' "

>

>

>

>

> >From: " Diann Young " <lhasamommy2@...>

> >Reply-Lexapro

> ><Lexapro >

> >Subject: Re: Re: Industry's way to get you hooked in order to

> >take your money

> >Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:20:52 -0700

> >

> >Sue,

> >

> >So well put. I have had the same experience. I lived with a mentally

> >abuse

> >spouse for 14 years. If I would have known about these drugs then we

>could

> >have gotten him some help and may still be together. Instead, it ended

>in

> >a

> >divorce and he is in and out of mental hospitals to this day. I take

> >Lexapro and feel that it is my lifesaver. Thanks for speaking out. I

>also

> >took offense to the previous posting.

> >

> >Diann

> >

> > > Hi, I am new here and I wanted to comment on this posting. I don't

> >agree

> > > with your statement that 15-20 years ago, when we didn't have these

> >meds,

> > > people did just fine.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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I have irritable Bowel Syndrome also and take Celexa which I have been on

for several years. I have noticed an improvement in it but I never thought

that it could be from the Celexa. I know that Seratonin is manufactured in

the gut, but I never made that connectioion but it certainly makes perfect

sense to me.

Sue C

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your money

I dont need to take any drug, but i take lexapro so i can have a life.

i take ssri's for irritable bowel syndrome. it's the only drug that

works. if i didnt take it i am literally confined to my house, thats

how bad it is. it seems i dont have the right amount of seratonin in

my gut. i would gladly pay any price for a drug that gave me back my

life.

colleen

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