Guest guest Posted April 20, 2000 Report Share Posted April 20, 2000 In a message dated 4/20/00 7:31:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, robertyork@... writes: << I caught up with Warner's office today. His aid said that Warner is still ProVaccine. >> Maybe we should try tomorrow as Senator Warner Day again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Deanna, There won't be any ozone dealers because you have to make your own. You will need an appropriate ozone generator to do so. Thee is little point in doing this unless you make sure your ozone generator has bottled oxygen or an oxygen collector as the source gas. Otherwise, you are better off drinking H2O2. I liked the effects of drinking peroxide, but the taste was more than I wanted at 12 drops of 35% in a glass of water. So, I bought an ozonator from Plasmafire. jim Deanna wrote: > > Hello All: > > I am looking for testemonials regarding the use of HP and would appreciate any replies sent to my email. > > Also, is there anyone in Toronto who is aware of a retailer of ozone water? Any information appreciated and can be sent to my email. > > Thank you very much. > > Peace and Light > > Deanna ----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Well, this makes me curious. Why can't the generator use common air for the production of Ozone? I have an Apline Ozonator for our home and it uses the inside air and you can just smell this generous gorgeous outflow of Ozone immediately; doesn't need any Medical Grade Oxygen at my place. I just breathe it right in. How sweet it is. Obie. Re: Contacts > Deanna, > > There won't be any ozone dealers because you have to make your own. You > will need an appropriate ozone generator to do so. Thee is little point > in doing this unless you make sure your ozone generator has bottled > oxygen or an oxygen collector as the source gas. Otherwise, you are > better off drinking H2O2. > > I liked the effects of drinking peroxide, but the taste was more than I > wanted at 12 drops of 35% in a glass of water. So, I bought an ozonator > from Plasmafire. > > jim > > Deanna wrote: > > > > Hello All: > > > > I am looking for testemonials regarding the use of HP and would appreciate any replies sent to my email. > > > > Also, is there anyone in Toronto who is aware of a retailer of ozone water? Any information appreciated and can be sent to my email. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Peace and Light > > > > Deanna > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Obie, The generator can use air as a supply if all you want to do is 6 ppm in the air to clean a room. But, air-supplied generators don't produce enough output for medical purposes, and using air in a medical quality ozone generator causes it to produce trace quantities of noxious chemicals from the nitrogen in air -- like nitric oxide, which converts to nitric acid in contact with the water in the body. What you have is a nice-smelling room free of pathogens. But, this is a far cry from all of the profound health benefits from using more concentrated ozone applied to the body. jim OBIE wrote: > > Well, this makes me curious. Why can't the generator use common air for > the production of Ozone? I have an Apline Ozonator for our home and it uses > the inside air and you can just smell this generous gorgeous outflow of > Ozone immediately; doesn't need any Medical Grade Oxygen at my place. I > just breathe it right in. How sweet it is. Obie. > > ----- Origin ----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Hey, this I can handle; no problem, Jim, thanks. Any chance the same nitric oxide occurs in my present environment? And is it possible to obtain Medical Grade Oxygen except with a prescription? I mean, that's next for me. Obie. Re: Contacts > Obie, > > The generator can use air as a supply if all you want to do is 6 ppm in > the air to clean a room. But, air-supplied generators don't produce > enough output for medical purposes, and using air in a medical quality > ozone generator causes it to produce trace quantities of noxious > chemicals from the nitrogen in air -- like nitric oxide, which converts > to nitric acid in contact with the water in the body. > > What you have is a nice-smelling room free of pathogens. But, this is a > far cry from all of the profound health benefits from using more > concentrated ozone applied to the body. > > jim > > OBIE wrote: > > > > Well, this makes me curious. Why can't the generator use common air for > > the production of Ozone? I have an Apline Ozonator for our home and it uses > > the inside air and you can just smell this generous gorgeous outflow of > > Ozone immediately; doesn't need any Medical Grade Oxygen at my place. I > > just breathe it right in. How sweet it is. Obie. > > > > ----- Origin > > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2001 Report Share Posted April 12, 2001 Dear Obie, Any of the corona discharge units that use air as feed gas will produce nitric oxides, which some people are very sensitive to. Nitric oxide becomes nitric acid on contact with moisture (such as your lungs). Therefore, this is NOT a medical treatment, but an air treatment only. It is a good air treatment, but not therapeutic. And I say that, even though Alpine has hundreds of testimonials of people who claim otherwise. I was an Alpine dealer for two years. The only way to get around this problem is with a good quality UV ozonator, which doesn't react with nitrogen, or with the unique little Aranizer. Connect with Tom Harrelson and buy an SS-4X through him. They are cheap ($250) effective, and do not make nitric oxide (I don't know why). Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: Contacts > > > > Deanna, > > > > There won't be any ozone dealers because you have to make your own. You > > will need an appropriate ozone generator to do so. Thee is little point > > in doing this unless you make sure your ozone generator has bottled > > oxygen or an oxygen collector as the source gas. Otherwise, you are > > better off drinking H2O2. > > > > I liked the effects of drinking peroxide, but the taste was more than I > > wanted at 12 drops of 35% in a glass of water. So, I bought an ozonator > > from Plasmafire. > > > > jim > > > > Deanna wrote: > > > > > > Hello All: > > > > > > I am looking for testemonials regarding the use of HP and would > appreciate any replies sent to my email. > > > > > > Also, is there anyone in Toronto who is aware of a retailer of ozone > water? Any information appreciated and can be sent to my email. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > Peace and Light > > > > > > Deanna > > ----- > > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2001 Report Share Posted April 13, 2001 In a message dated 4/12/01 10:50:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, saul@... writes: << Any of the corona discharge units that use air as feed gas will produce nitric oxides, which some people are very sensitive to. >> I have a SOTA for making ozonated water. Is the water safe to drink or do I need to get a better unit? I know I should not use it for any other purpose such as insufflation (sp?) Lash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2001 Report Share Posted April 13, 2001 Dear Lash, The SOTA units are very low powered, so they are probably not making much NO. If the taste is not objectionable, I wouldn't worry about it. Your stomach has acid in already, so it can handle a bit more, if there is any. And your mouth and esophagus are pretty tough compared to other areas, because they have to be. However, do not use it for insufflation. Mucous membranes will not stand up to nitric acid, if there is much, and over a period of time, you could end up with erosion of tissue. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: Contacts > In a message dated 4/12/01 10:50:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > saul@... writes: > > << Any of the corona discharge units that use air as feed gas will produce > nitric oxides, which some people are very sensitive to. >> > > I have a SOTA for making ozonated water. Is the water safe to drink or do I > need to get a better unit? I know I should not use it for any other purpose > such as insufflation (sp?) > Lash > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I did a search of under " bariatric " and got as far as #68 out of 200: Psybari/ It does not look very active. Have them do a similar search, or contact ASBS? If I learn anything from my teammates I will post. Hilleary, MPH, RD San Diego VA Healthcare System >>Message: 7 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:20:34 -0500 From: " Gundermann, " <LGunderm@...> Subject: Contacts My fellow teammates are asking if there is a list serve for behavioral health workers. I share so much from this group that they want one of their own. Does anyone have any contacts to ask? Thanks! Gundermann RD, CDE Manager of Clinical Nutrition Services Good Samaritan Hospital Bon Secours Charity Health System (845) 368 - 5016 lgunderm@...<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 859-2159 Contacts My fellow teammates are asking if there is a list serve for behavioral health workers. I share so much from this group that they want one of their own. Does anyone have any contacts to ask? Thanks! Gundermann RD, CDE Manager of Clinical Nutrition Services Good Samaritan Hospital Bon Secours Charity Health System (845) 368 - 5016 lgunderm@...<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 What does this phone number pertain to? Contacts My fellow teammates are asking if there is a list serve for behavioral health workers. I share so much from this group that they want one of their own. Does anyone have any contacts to ask? Thanks! Gundermann RD, CDE Manager of Clinical Nutrition Services Good Samaritan Hospital Bon Secours Charity Health System (845) 368 - 5016 lgunderm@...<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 I've worn contacts for years and years and the way I do it is, I hold the lens on the index of my dominant hand, use the middle to pull down the lower lid, at the same time holding my eye open really wide, then put it right on the iris -- don't try to put it on the white and slide it up onto the iris. Then close your eye and blink with it closed and you should be all set. It takes a bit of practice but it almost always works. Carl's day -- Wednesday Wow...you folks are something else. I'll tell you what I did; then I'll send a second one with all my responses/questions to everyone. After work, I headed for the gym. I wanted a workout, but something short since I needed to get things ready for going to the pool. I just did the E.T. for 48 mins., 3.90 miles and 674 calories. I headed home. First thing I did was go for the contacts. 23 minutes, 4 door pounds, one bathroom scream later, I had the *( & (* & )@#$ contact lenses in. Next step was to test them. How better to test them than to read some group e-mails. I'm really glad I'm part of this group. Lots of nice things were said, so I felt really good life. Spent more time than I wanted to looking at these e-mails (like that's a bad thing), but I eventually headed for the pool. Looking at myself felt different. Maybe I looked better than I thought, but I stuck with the "no worse than any other year" mantra and was satisfied. Mostly sunny, the forecast said. Mostly sunny?? Mostly sunny? Mostly sunny, my (pick a body part). It was at least 2/3 cloudy, if not more. I stayed out there 2 3/4 hours, swimming when it was cloudy. Everytime it looked like the weather would take a turn for the worse, the sun would peek out to tease me into staying longer. I don't need that much sun for starters. Contacts stayed in OK; must've put 'em in right. Next step: I need to buy tinted goggles. I napped when I got home; I don't think I'll get in even an ab set at home. I just finished making dinner and my stomach won't be settled until too late (I "wake up" at 10:10 to go to the night job). Unfortunately, I have auction tomorrow, so this'll be it for working out until Friday AM. Still have the contacts in; will take 'em out after work tonight. We'll see how quickly I get them in for Friday's appt.. The trick for me is putting them in high b/c I can't get my lower eyelid down far enough. I think it's just bad motor skills. OK, let me get those other comments out in the other e-mail. Y'all can pick a line and respond. Thanks again. --Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 would you like addreses of the local testing facilities I have gone to for etg?? as well as the agencys that are doing this test ie child protective services regional headquarters , state labs .state family courts and lawyers???That are belonging to my case... as I can also provide other states that are using this in family situations and cases of parents doing all they can to have their children returned but for this test ????Just say the word and I will reach out to the groups I do not know how many take this test but Im sure its in the thousands so it might be better to just send to the regional offices,I havent a problem with myself in revealing my name ect..but many in this community are afraid of the reprocusions and continued hardships they may face exposing the child stealers..it is as big as the lab industry if not bigger and its the state and federal government under Health and Human Services same as SAMSHA..for the most part we have no voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I would like the names and contact information of everyone who is advocating urine EtG as proof positive of alcohol consumption . I’ll talley up the list and update it from time to time. If mailing addresses, fax numbers, email addresses and names of their leadership can be included, all the better. I will only be including names of people on my open letter if I have received signed permission as outlined in a previous post. We do have a voice. We do have the truth on our side. We do have sufficient data. contacts would you like addreses of the local testing facilities I have gone to for etg?? as well as the agencys that are doing this test ie child protective services regional headquarters , state labs .state family courts and lawyers???That are belonging to my case... as I can also provide other states that are using this in family situations and cases of parents doing all they can to have their children returned but for this test ????Just say the word and I will reach out to the groups I do not know how many take this test but Im sure its in the thousands so it might be better to just send to the regional offices,I havent a problem with myself in revealing my name ect..but many in this community are afraid of the reprocusions and continued hardships they may face exposing the child stealers..it is as big as the lab industry if not bigger and its the state and federal government under Health and Human Services same as SAMSHA..for the most part we have no voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dan, Point of clarification: You're not going to distribute the "Open Letter to All Companies Offering EtG Testing" to licensing boards, TPAs, or criminal justice programs, are you? This letter is strictly for lab entities, is it not? Lorie RE: contacts I would like the names and contact information of everyone who is advocating urine EtG as proof positive of alcohol consumption . I’ll talley up the list and update it from time to time. If mailing addresses, fax numbers, email addresses and names of their leadership can be included, all the better. I will only be including names of people on my open letter if I have received signed permission as outlined in a previous post. We do have a voice. We do have the truth on our side. We do have sufficient data. -----Original Message-----From: Ethylglucuronide [mailto:Ethylglucuronide ] On Behalf Of lftbhnd007Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:33 PMEthylglucuronide Subject: contacts would you like addreses of the local testing facilities I have gone to for etg?? as well as the agencys that are doing this test ie child protective services regional headquarters , state labs .state family courts and lawyers???That are belonging to my case... as I can also provide other states that are using this in family situations and cases of parents doing all they can to have their children returned but for this test ????Just say the word and I will reach out to the groups I do not know how many take this test but Im sure its in the thousands so it might be better to just send to the regional offices,I havent a problem with myself in revealing my name ect..but many in this community are afraid of the reprocusions and continued hardships they may face exposing the child stealers..it is as big as the lab industry if not bigger and its the state and federal government under Health and Human Services same as SAMSHA..for the most part we have no voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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