Re: nbe disguises

[Guest guest]

hi c,check recent postings for listed nbe,non-beverage etoh,products...i have to be a detective and read labels because it is in everything and the names are disguised as words other than alcohol or ethanol,such as... Cetyl Stearyl Cetearyl Lanolin bottom line for me,when in doubt spit it out...regards,r crsse1 <crssemc@...> wrote: Can you explain to me when it's OK to get cought up or not get caught up in what you

ingest??? Does anyone have an answer as to what is safe or not safe?? My Gosh remember that this test has NEVER been validated, and the people intrepeting it are social workers!!It blows my mind how much information WE can come up with and these dingbats are still calling EtG the "gold standard" of alchol ingestion> So hey all you guys; I spent literally 8 hours last

night going through and reading every > post from this group as early back as it would let me (since I am new to this group and > wanted to find people's stories, etc). I think April was as early as it would let me go, but I > think you've been around longer than that haven't you? Anyway, it was fascinating and so > inspiring to see what has happened over only the last 6 months; As Dr. Dan said, the > group has proliferated, the "hit" numbers are huge now, etc., and I agree with him and > hope that there ARE creepy little spies watching us from the evil lab companies and > possibly the boards, especially as we get so much closert to something BIG...Just reading > the momentum and feeling the energy of the wave that you all have created with this > group, I think they should be SCARED, and it doesn't surprise me that some of their > websites are very recently

changing and even dissappearing! (that is hilarious...). Yes, I > will sit patiently and wait for it all to come crashng down, but am I ever looking forward to > it! I also feel like the next time Maximus calls me with another + or other issue, I'm just > gonna slip and tell them to "f*cki*g blow me," as I feel a LITTLE more protected now. > Don't get me wrong, I am not naive, I know that this is in no way over, but I do know that > we are better off now than we ever were...(And do you have any idea how long I've wanted > to say that to my "charming, ever-so-competent" CM?)> > BTW, thanks for all the recent discussion on the OTC meds, etc., I'm thinking that maybe > my last + (level 270) had something to do with the combo of taking "allegra" (for my > horrible hayfever, only take it like for one week out of the year), and then maybe inhaling > the same amt

of etoh fumes at work that I usually do, hence being a little "enzyme > induced" that day. Does someone know anything about allegra? (obviously the plain one, > w/o sudafed in it). And thanks to you guys I certainly will NEVER take anything with > tylenol in it ever again.> > Oh, and Madison, I think you are positively brilliant.> > Amy>

[Guest guest]

You are talking about every lotion, hair conditioner,

sunblock, etc. I am confused what can you use to

conditioner hair and sunblock?

I thought I was told that onlu cetyl, stearyl,bezyl.

But I too start to doubt everything, I understand your

point.

--- robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

> hi c,check recent postings for listed

> nbe,non-beverage etoh,products...i have to be

> a detective and read labels because it is in

> everything and the names are disguised

> as words other than alcohol or ethanol,such as...

>

>

> Cetyl

> Stearyl

> Cetearyl

> Lanolin

> bottom line for me,when in doubt spit it

> out...regards,r

>

> crsse1 <crssemc@...> wrote:

> Can you explain to me when it's OK to get

> cought up or not get caught

> up in what you ingest??? Does anyone have an answer

> as to what is

> safe or not safe?? My Gosh remember that this test

> has NEVER been

> validated, and the people intrepeting it are social

> workers!!

>

> It blows my mind how much information WE can come up

> with and these

> dingbats are still calling EtG the " gold standard "

> of alchol ingestion

>

>

> > So hey all you guys; I spent literally 8 hours

> last night

> going through and reading every

> > post from this group as early back as it would let

> me (since I am

> new to this group and

> > wanted to find people's stories, etc). I think

> April was as early

> as it would let me go, but I

> > think you've been around longer than that haven't

> you? Anyway, it

> was fascinating and so

> > inspiring to see what has happened over only the

> last 6 months; As

> Dr. Dan said, the

> > group has proliferated, the " hit " numbers are huge

> now, etc., and I

> agree with him and

> > hope that there ARE creepy little spies watching

> us from the evil

> lab companies and

> > possibly the boards, especially as we get so much

> closert to

> something BIG...Just reading

> > the momentum and feeling the energy of the wave

> that you all have

> created with this

> > group, I think they should be SCARED, and it

> doesn't surprise me

> that some of their

> > websites are very recently changing and even

> dissappearing! (that

> is hilarious...). Yes, I

> > will sit patiently and wait for it all to come

> crashng down, but am

> I ever looking forward to

> > it! I also feel like the next time Maximus calls

> me with another +

> or other issue, I'm just

> > gonna slip and tell them to " f*cki*g blow me, " as

> I feel a LITTLE

> more protected now.

> > Don't get me wrong, I am not naive, I know that

> this is in no way

> over, but I do know that

> > we are better off now than we ever were...(And do

> you have any idea

> how long I've wanted

> > to say that to my " charming, ever-so-competent "

> CM?)

> >

> > BTW, thanks for all the recent discussion on the

> OTC meds, etc.,

> I'm thinking that maybe

> > my last + (level 270) had something to do with the

> combo of

> taking " allegra " (for my

> > horrible hayfever, only take it like for one week

> out of the year),

> and then maybe inhaling

> > the same amt of etoh fumes at work that I usually

> do, hence being a

> little " enzyme

> > induced " that day. Does someone know anything

> about allegra?

> (obviously the plain one,

> > w/o sudafed in it). And thanks to you guys I

> certainly will NEVER

> take anything with

> > tylenol in it ever again.

> >

> > Oh, and Madison, I think you are positively

> brilliant.

> >

> > Amy

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

hi julie,you got my point that i have to be careful with everything but also realize that it needs to be a balanced effort and i can never do it perfectly...but not to read labels and use is insane...marcellus is right about household products too,they do not have to list etoh on their labels{lysol 90%)...i was mainly posting to you & madison's post on cough syrup causing false positive...it definitely can have a role but there are etoh free substitutes...per marcellus & lorie i am sure what happened to me as a baby i got some of those evil vitamin c infant drops 5% etoh,got triggered,and fell back into relapse for the next 50 years..ridiculous,but that is the level of understanding that many in authority operate on...regards,r Hartman <jhartman32001@...> wrote: You are talking about every lotion, hair conditioner,sunblock, etc. I am confused what can you use toconditioner hair and sunblock?I thought I was told that onlu cetyl, stearyl,bezyl.But I too start to doubt everything, I understand yourpoint. --- robin murray <remurraymd > wrote:> hi c,check recent postings for listed> nbe,non-beverage etoh,products...i have to be> a detective and read labels because it is in> everything and the names are disguised> as words other than alcohol or ethanol,such

as...> > > Cetyl > Stearyl > Cetearyl > Lanolin > bottom line for me,when in doubt spit it> out...regards,r> > crsse1 <crssemcaol> wrote:> Can you explain to me when it's OK to get> cought up or not get caught > up in what you ingest??? Does anyone have an answer> as to what is > safe or not safe?? My Gosh remember that this test> has NEVER been > validated, and the people intrepeting it are social> workers!!> > It blows my mind how much information WE can come up> with and these > dingbats are still calling EtG the "gold standard"> of alchol ingestion> > > > So hey all you guys; I spent literally 8 hours> last night > going through and reading every > > post from this group as early back as it would let> me (since I am > new to this group and > > wanted to find people's stories, etc). I think> April was as early > as it would let me go, but I > > think you've been around longer than that haven't> you? Anyway, it > was fascinating and so > >

inspiring to see what has happened over only the> last 6 months; As > Dr. Dan said, the > > group has proliferated, the "hit" numbers are huge> now, etc., and I > agree with him and > > hope that there ARE creepy little spies watching> us from the evil > lab companies and > > possibly the boards, especially as we get so much> closert to > something BIG...Just reading > > the momentum and feeling the energy of the wave> that you all have > created with this > > group, I think they should be SCARED, and it> doesn't surprise me > that some of their > > websites are very recently changing and even> dissappearing! (that > is hilarious...). Yes, I > > will sit patiently and wait for it all to come> crashng down, but am > I ever looking forward to > > it! I also feel like the next time

Maximus calls> me with another + > or other issue, I'm just > > gonna slip and tell them to "f*cki*g blow me," as> I feel a LITTLE > more protected now. > > Don't get me wrong, I am not naive, I know that> this is in no way > over, but I do know that > > we are better off now than we ever were...(And do> you have any idea > how long I've wanted > > to say that to my "charming, ever-so-competent"> CM?)> > > > BTW, thanks for all the recent discussion on the> OTC meds, etc., > I'm thinking that maybe > > my last + (level 270) had something to do with the> combo of > taking "allegra" (for my > > horrible hayfever, only take it like for one week> out of the year), > and then maybe inhaling > > the same amt of etoh fumes at work that I usually> do, hence being a > little

"enzyme > > induced" that day. Does someone know anything> about allegra? > (obviously the plain one, > > w/o sudafed in it). And thanks to you guys I> certainly will NEVER > take anything with > > tylenol in it ever again.> > > > Oh, and Madison, I think you are positively> brilliant.> > > > Amy> >> > > > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hey guys, I thought it was only SD alcohol we need to watch for in

household/beauty products. Aren't the others fatty alcohols and ok to

be exposed to?

> > > So hey all you guys; I spent literally 8 hours

> > last night

> > going through and reading every

> > > post from this group as early back as it would let

> > me (since I am

> > new to this group and

> > > wanted to find people's stories, etc). I think

> > April was as early

> > as it would let me go, but I

> > > think you've been around longer than that haven't

> > you? Anyway, it

> > was fascinating and so

> > > inspiring to see what has happened over only the

> > last 6 months; As

> > Dr. Dan said, the

> > > group has proliferated, the " hit " numbers are huge

> > now, etc., and I

> > agree with him and

> > > hope that there ARE creepy little spies watching

> > us from the evil

> > lab companies and

> > > possibly the boards, especially as we get so much

> > closert to

> > something BIG...Just reading

> > > the momentum and feeling the energy of the wave

> > that you all have

> > created with this

> > > group, I think they should be SCARED, and it

> > doesn't surprise me

> > that some of their

> > > websites are very recently changing and even

> > dissappearing! (that

> > is hilarious...). Yes, I

> > > will sit patiently and wait for it all to come

> > crashng down, but am

> > I ever looking forward to

> > > it! I also feel like the next time Maximus calls

> > me with another +

> > or other issue, I'm just

> > > gonna slip and tell them to " f*cki*g blow me, " as

> > I feel a LITTLE

> > more protected now.

> > > Don't get me wrong, I am not naive, I know that

> > this is in no way

> > over, but I do know that

> > > we are better off now than we ever were...(And do

> > you have any idea

> > how long I've wanted

> > > to say that to my " charming, ever-so-competent "

> > CM?)

> > >

> > > BTW, thanks for all the recent discussion on the

> > OTC meds, etc.,

> > I'm thinking that maybe

> > > my last + (level 270) had something to do with the

> > combo of

> > taking " allegra " (for my

> > > horrible hayfever, only take it like for one week

> > out of the year),

> > and then maybe inhaling

> > > the same amt of etoh fumes at work that I usually

> > do, hence being a

> > little " enzyme

> > > induced " that day. Does someone know anything

> > about allegra?

> > (obviously the plain one,

> > > w/o sudafed in it). And thanks to you guys I

> > certainly will NEVER

> > take anything with

> > > tylenol in it ever again.

> > >

> > > Oh, and Madison, I think you are positively

> > brilliant.

> > >

> > > Amy

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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