Re: to Jeff - new kitten

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I really understand. I had to give a dog I had adopted from my local

shelter because of underlying health problems. I do feel you should

complain and complain big time. I know in my state, once an animal is

adopted, the shelter gives you 1 free vet visit to get the animal checked

out. I did that and found the cute terrier that I had adopted had a life

threatening disease. And I was told that he was in the end stages of the

disease, thus death was imminent. It broke my heart to take him back. I

explained why i was bringing him back and they understood.

I think the manager " got up on the wrong side of the bed " that day. Surely

no Human Society should refuse to adopt out an animal to a loving home. But

they should also have the provision " the just in case clause " . Mine did and

I was happy for it...I never did adopt another dog. My husband said no

after that...(joy kill...oops sorry)

My heart goes out to you....

Jacquie

to Jeff - new kitten

Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning My vet

found some underlying health issues and right now with my employment

situation I just could not afford a major bill right now. The

shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind him that I

have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a hugh red

stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this person " . I

burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county for

returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first place. Life

can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very difficult

thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but wanted

to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since there

were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be euthanased

but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my vet

clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with him and

I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this shelter

manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after this

furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain vehemently.

I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I learned of

his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I don't

think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

Gosh Dana...I am so sorry for you.....In the meantime...give your

other pets all your love.Even though you had begun the bond...it is

better now then later on and you must look at it that way!

A suggestion. In the Sunday papers there are sometimes (free to good

home) ads for kitties...maybe one will be for you.

Not trying to be nosey but what State do you live in ...sounds like

a place I would not like to be....are these people all nutsso no

offense)I might understand all the hubub if a child were up for

adoption but there are so many poor creatures out there that truly

need a home and love!

keep the chin up....things will turn for the better!

jeff

> Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning My

vet

> found some underlying health issues and right now with my

employment

> situation I just could not afford a major bill right now. The

> shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind him

that I

> have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

> organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a hugh red

> stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this person " .

I

> burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county for

> returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first place.

Life

> can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very difficult

> thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but

wanted

> to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since there

> were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be

euthanased

> but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my vet

> clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with him

and

> I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this shelter

> manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after this

> furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain vehemently.

>

> I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I learned of

> his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I don't

> think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

>

>

> Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jacquie for your support and sharing your story. Your husband

perhaps did you a favor, no more heartbreakes with animals. I, am a

glutten for punishment I guess....... sighing !!!

Dana Rose

> Dana,

> I really understand. I had to give a dog I had adopted from

my local

> shelter because of underlying health problems. I do feel you should

> complain and complain big time. I know in my state, once an animal

is

> adopted, the shelter gives you 1 free vet visit to get the animal

checked

> out. I did that and found the cute terrier that I had adopted had

a life

> threatening disease. And I was told that he was in the end stages

of the

> disease, thus death was imminent. It broke my heart to take him

back. I

> explained why i was bringing him back and they understood.

>

> I think the manager " got up on the wrong side of the bed " that day.

Surely

> no Human Society should refuse to adopt out an animal to a loving

home. But

> they should also have the provision " the just in case clause " .

Mine did and

> I was happy for it...I never did adopt another dog. My husband

said no

> after that...(joy kill...oops sorry)

>

> My heart goes out to you....

>

> Jacquie

>

> to Jeff - new kitten

>

>

> Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning My vet

> found some underlying health issues and right now with my employment

> situation I just could not afford a major bill right now. The

> shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind him that

I

> have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

> organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a hugh red

> stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this person " . I

> burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county for

> returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first place.

Life

> can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very difficult

> thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but wanted

> to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since there

> were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be euthanased

> but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my vet

> clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with him and

> I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this shelter

> manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after this

> furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain vehemently.

>

> I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I learned of

> his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I don't

> think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

>

>

> Dana Rose

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You wouldn't believe this Jeff, but ....... a stray cat has lached

himself onto me...... several days ago he tried to get into my home

and he has been trying ever since then. He stays under the bushes

outside underneath my livingroom window and runs out when I open my

front door. If he is not trying to get in, he cries outside my front

door. So................. well.............. I,

uh..........hummmmmmmm......... started to feed him Now he goes

everywhere with me, he follows me on my morning walks, he follows me

to the mail box, to my car. So, I am finding myself outdoors

alot ........ ah...........playing with him, letting him sit on my

lap...... I even gave him a name..... ut oh........ !!! LOL,

shaking my head...... no, it is not Cujo, hehehehehe !!!!

I put up signs around my neighborhood and have checked the papers.

My county shelter will not be open until Tuesday, but in my state I

have to wait 11 days before he can be legally placed in a home, but

he has to be held in either a rescue foster home or a shelter. So, I

am having a rescue person come tomorrow to take him to the vets and

have him fixed and check for disease and catch him up to date on all

his shots, that is, if no one claims him before tomorrow morning.

Then the big question, where does he go ??????? Well, over the

weekend I found another kitten that I really liked, yes I couldn't

live with myself so I had to go out and look, sheesh !!! I didn't

commit to this kitten but I just feel that a kitten would fit easier

into my environment right now, than an adult cat that has been

outside. Kittens adapt easier but adult strays have bigger issues and

am not sure I am up to that challenge. He is tugging at my heart

strings !!!!!

When one door closes another opens !!!!!

Well, he has kept me busy being happy since I have been taking care

of him. I feel like I have a purpose and he needs me right now and

that is really helping my depression. Why I am back to smiling in

that mirror again, LOL.

So, far the Lexapro has been holding through all this, this week.

Been down but due to mostly not sleeping.

Dana Rose ~ ~

> > Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning My

> vet

> > found some underlying health issues and right now with my

> employment

> > situation I just could not afford a major bill right now. The

> > shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind him

> that I

> > have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

> > organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a hugh

red

> > stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this person " .

> I

> > burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county for

> > returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first place.

> Life

> > can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very difficult

> > thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but

> wanted

> > to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since

there

> > were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be

> euthanased

> > but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my vet

> > clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with him

> and

> > I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this shelter

> > manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after this

> > furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain vehemently.

> >

> > I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I learned

of

> > his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I

don't

> > think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

> >

> >

> > Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

Funny how things work out...But considering the bad time you had

with the authorities, maybe putting up signs in local stores would

be better,,,,I would not trust those folk you have been dealing with

and after all, the cat came to you....not THEM! You definately do

not need them getting in the way. If you feel inclined, why not just

ask them if anyone reported their cat (description must match or no

action!!) missing and keep your distance!

Hopefully he is in good shape and you will get to keep him....FUNNY

how he just happenned to pick you out isn't it??? <grin> Just who is

the adoptee here anyway.....<snicker> Maybe its the good eats he

figures he will get at your place....cats are really independant

creatures and they do you a favor when appplying their

favors.....The little snobs!!!

Skittles just licks you to death if he gets you pinned while you are

dosing! He can actually GRAB you with his crossed paws while

wraping you up in an embrace...strong little bugger at that! When it

is time for him to go to sleep in his crate (bed) he quickly

retreats to " his " couch and just goes limp like dead weight when

you try to pick him up .

Me thinks we are all being had by our pets!!!!! (and loving

it)...Skittles got the older Beagle pissed off the other day by

pestering him....Gizmo just put his head down and head butted

Skittles across the room like a ball...very funny to watch as Gizmo

is about 7 yrs old and alot bulkier then the devil dog! Skittles

replied by stealing Gizmo's favorite ( " it's MINE " ) toy, and the

chase was on! Watching them trying to get traction on the Pergo

floors is great entertainment for me! Skittles is just too fast and

he escaped!!!

Jeff

> > > Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning

My

> > vet

> > > found some underlying health issues and right now with my

> > employment

> > > situation I just could not afford a major bill right now. The

> > > shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind him

> > that I

> > > have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

> > > organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a hugh

> red

> > > stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this

person " .

> > I

> > > burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county

for

> > > returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first

place.

> > Life

> > > can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very

difficult

> > > thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but

> > wanted

> > > to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since

> there

> > > were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be

> > euthanased

> > > but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my

vet

> > > clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with

him

> > and

> > > I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this

shelter

> > > manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after

this

> > > furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain

vehemently.

> > >

> > > I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I

learned

> of

> > > his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I

> don't

> > > think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

Update ---- my gentleman caller moved in today *smiles*. LOL, I call

him my gentleman caller because he sits outside my door and escorts

me to the mail box and just about anywhere I want to go to. He won't

do this with anyone else............. or so I thought...........

I called my resident manager and apparently he has appealed to many

residents all over my complex. He is well fed because.......... yeup

you guessed it.......... he has played on the sympathies of many

other animal lovers. Apparently he has been taken to the shelter 3

times over the past 2 months but the shelter keeps releasing him to

his owners, who keep letting him out. Their claim, he wants to go

outside. I haven't seen this urge yet, but he is a large adult un-

neutered male and so a little fixing might help that urge, LOL.

He has one failing feature, he tried to nip or bite at my hand. He

has tried this about 3 times already now. I am pretty quick on the

draw and see it coming. This I don't like and I lived with one of my

former cats for 12 years who was a bitter and quite frankly I don't

want to live like this again. I know the signs before he bites and so

I have to watch the TV out of the corner of my eyes while I watch

his. If he has a biting issue then he will undoubtly try to bite my

other two who by the way are tucked away in my bedroom while my

gentleman caller has the freedom of the home. I am doing this as I

don't want to confine him to make him mad and then I might have a

smell issue on my hands........ know what I mean, cat's fight back in

the ugliest of ways.

He has made himself quite at home in my home. He strides around my

apartment like he has always lived here. He finds he prefers my

recliner to lounge upon or my lap when I sit down. He follows me all

over the place and is now sleeping on my lap as I type this to you.

The options I have are to keep him confined in a utility closet until

the rescue person can take him to the vets for various things to be

done to him, however there is the issue of the owner. Then what to

do with him. He could have a premanent home here if he just did not

bite. And on the subject of biting, I am not sure if these are just

love bites or real bites that go to China. I fear letting him

experient on me as I don't want to have him break skin and then I

will be subject to the fear of rabies...... would Lexapro cure

rabies ? <grinning>

Stay tuned to part two of my gentleman caller............

Dana Rose

> > > > Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this morning

> My

> > > vet

> > > > found some underlying health issues and right now with my

> > > employment

> > > > situation I just could not afford a major bill right now.

The

> > > > shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind

him

> > > that I

> > > > have the option of taking him back out and finding a rescue

> > > > organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a

hugh

> > red

> > > > stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this

> person " .

> > > I

> > > > burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my county

> for

> > > > returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first

> place.

> > > Life

> > > > can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very

> difficult

> > > > thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty but

> > > wanted

> > > > to give him a chance with another owner. He said that since

> > there

> > > > were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be

> > > euthanased

> > > > but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently my

> vet

> > > > clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit with

> him

> > > and

> > > > I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this

> shelter

> > > > manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department after

> this

> > > > furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain

> vehemently.

> > > >

> > > > I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I

> learned

> > of

> > > > his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried. I

> > don't

> > > > think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

gentleman caller....I am crushed! <grin> Hopefully the nipping is

only a stage or love nips. SOUNDS YOU HAVE HIM RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS

YOU!!!

I used a great idea that a gal taught me when training my stubborn

cats since they adore water soo much! <not>.

Get yourself a small squirt gun and everytime he does something

bad,,,,give him a little squirt in the chest (not in the eyes of

couses! This will disuade him quickly and he will not equate the

Punishment with your hand.!!!! remember the poor guy has been " on

his own for some time I presume and needs a little domestication!

iIF HE IS REALLY BAD, MAYBE GET A SUPER SOAKER!

Agreed about the neutering...cannot hurt and is actually

supposededly better for the animal (not to old yet I hope. Remember

perfection is not to be had in this world for us or pets either so

cut the little guy some slack!!! I do not know if I would be letting

him out so much....My cats were house cats and only got out with a

leash. (whoever has the best food wins their attention!!!)

PLEASE keep away from the animal shelter people!!! For your own sake!

Guess what...Paid my monthly visit to the PDOC and told him of my

quitting the Lex..he had this stunned look and immediatelt started

questioning me about my feelings Etc...when I told him I felt better

than ever, he stopped and smiled a little.

1) have stopped Lex and only take vitamins and my regimen of 10mg

per day of valium (4 weeks now)> he said no problem if that is all

it takes costs me $3 for 60tabs)

2) have lost back ALL the weight SSRI's put on me!(30 big ones and I

am only 5'7 " tall

3) BP back to normal (low)

4) sleeping like a rock again

5) even with some bad stuff in my life, I am back to my old self for

beter or worse. yes there is anxiety but I would rather deal with

that!

HE WAS SIMPLY ASTONISHED...COULD NOT BELIEVE IT AFTERV 5+ YEARS ON

ssri'S OF ONE TYPE OR ANOTHER, I just plain quit!!. AGAIN, WHAT I

CHOOSE IS NOT FOR EVERYONE, BUT SURE HAS HELPED ME!!! NO MORE

FOGGINESS and flatness of personality.

My only negative symptoms are the GAD and minor bits of temper (low

stupidity threshold I guess...no different that before I began

treatment!) I will say I have learned alot and am determined to deal

with life as it comes and not do the SSRI's. Even with my parents

being on their last leg, I am doing ok with it for now and am

keeping myself busy again.

keep your new gentleman caller in tow...you are the boss and that is

a tough one for a cat with an " oh yeah " attitude, but it sounds as

though he will come around, Keep up the good work! I found that

animals react to rewards for good behavour and punishment (like the

water pistol for bad!) of course, that is most animals...Skittles is

an exception and (pardon me but) a little turd!

regards

jeff

> > > > > Sadly I had to take him back to the shelter this

morning

> > My

> > > > vet

> > > > > found some underlying health issues and right now with my

> > > > employment

> > > > > situation I just could not afford a major bill right now.

> The

> > > > > shelter manager laid into me this morning and I did remind

> him

> > > > that I

> > > > > have the option of taking him back out and finding a

rescue

> > > > > organization or honoring the contract I signed. He put a

> hugh

> > > red

> > > > > stamp on my application that says " do not adopt to this

> > person " .

> > > > I

> > > > > burst into tears. I am now banned from adopting in my

county

> > for

> > > > > returning a sick pet they adopted out to me in the first

> > place.

> > > > Life

> > > > > can be soo brutal. It was hard enough to do this very

> > difficult

> > > > > thing. I had the option of euthanasing this little kitty

but

> > > > wanted

> > > > > to give him a chance with another owner. He said that

since

> > > there

> > > > > were only two other cats in the shelter, he would not be

> > > > euthanased

> > > > > but possibly sent to my vet clinic for rehab. Apparently

my

> > vet

> > > > > clinic works with the shelter, so I can go up and visit

with

> > him

> > > > and

> > > > > I as happy about that ending, but flattened out by this

> > shelter

> > > > > manager. I do plan to contact my county HR department

after

> > this

> > > > > furbaby is transferred to my vet clinic and complain

> > vehemently.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not had any sleep over the past 24 hours since I

> > learned

> > > of

> > > > > his fate. Last night I held him all night long and cried.

I

> > > don't

> > > > > think giving up a pet, of any duration, is easy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dana Rose

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

I'm sorry to hear about the bad experience you had with your

kitten.

I also have an adult (stray) cat hanging around the house. He looks

a lot like one of my cats and we have almost let him in several

times. I am a softie when it comes to cats, and if my husband would

put up with another one, I would have probably already adopted it.

I have been feeding it taking care of it, just not letting it in. I

three cats inside is all I can get by with.

I am glad to hear that you are doing OK and hope this " kitten " thing

works out for you soon.

(((hugs)))

Pam