Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 What is the cutoff, nowadays, is it 500 now??? > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result for my > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one time > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this was > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi yi, > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, don't > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed the > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think that is > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I saw > it......happy holidays to everyone! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 In CA for RN's it is still 250.sexybellykelly <sexybellykelly@...> wrote: What is the cutoff, nowadays, is it 500 now???>> okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for my > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one time > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this was > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi yi, > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, don't > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed the > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think that is > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I saw > it......happy holidays to everyone!> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 we are spinning our wheels again lets organize some media attention again..there is absolutely no reason we or you should have to be subjected to etg anymore..I have made some serious head roads with the family court victims that don't have such a voice but if we band together we must stop this and we have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 at my last dec in oct they told me it was 500 but the dec said they would base each positive on a case by case basis. So even if it was below 500 they could consider it a relapse. This is from diversion ca, maximus program. I am no longer in diversion waiting for probation. I am afraid I will be unable to get through probation either, since I could never stop testing positive. I would would have 3 neg then 1 pos. I am hoping that I will figure out the reason, I still keep thinking it has to do with meds, any type affecting the liver. --- Marsha Dienelt <marshadienelt@...> wrote: > In CA for RN's it is still 250. > > sexybellykelly <sexybellykelly@...> wrote: > What is the cutoff, nowadays, is it 500 now??? > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. > The result for my > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of > every test, as one > time > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. > Of course this was > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a > letter....ee yi yi, > > never ending. Will I ever get off > probation???????? By the way, > don't > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp > linguine....I noticed the > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming > 9/10's. I think that > is > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my > pants when I saw > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Interesting as @ my DEC 12/12 I asked @ the 500 cutoff & they vehemently denied it, saying it was & would remain 250. It'd be nice if the info was straight across the board..... Hartman <jhartman32001@...> wrote: at my last dec in oct they told me it was 500 but thedec said they would base each positive on a case bycase basis. So even if it was below 500 they couldconsider it a relapse. This is from diversion ca,maximus program. I am no longer in diversion waitingfor probation. I am afraid I will be unable to getthrough probation either, since I could never stoptesting positive. I would would have 3 neg then 1 pos.I am hoping that I will figure out the reason, I stillkeep thinking it has to do with meds, any typeaffecting the liver. --- Marsha Dienelt <marshadienelt > wrote:> In CA for RN's it is still 250.> > sexybellykelly <sexybellykelly > wrote: > What is the cutoff, nowadays, is it 500 now???> > > >> > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG.> The result for my > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of> every test, as one > time > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive.> Of course this was > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a> letter....ee yi yi, > > never ending. Will I ever get off> probation???????? By the way, > don't > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp> linguine....I noticed the > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming> 9/10's. I think that > is > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my> pants when I saw > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 provide the document please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 No, in CA the cutoff for an RN in probation is 500, confirmed it.... > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result for my > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > time > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this was > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi yi, > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > don't > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed the > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think that > is > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I saw > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 If the cutoff is 500, why were you positive at 260 on Dec 7th? > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result for > my > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > > time > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this > was > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > yi, > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > > don't > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > the > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > that > > is > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I > saw > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Confirmed it with whom & when?Lorie <saclorie@...> wrote: If the cutoff is 500, why were you positive at 260 on Dec 7th?> > >> > > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for> my> > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one> > time> > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this> was> > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi> yi,> > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way,> > don't> > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed> the> > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think> that> > is> > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I> saw> > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Confirmed it with whom & when?nilesclay <nilesclay@...> wrote: No, in CA the cutoff for an RN in probation is 500, confirmed it....> >> > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for my > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > time > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this was > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi yi, > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > don't > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed the > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think that > is > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I saw > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 I don't have a document. I have a probation monitor who TOLD me the cut off was now 500. Maybe diversion is different..... > > provide the document please > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my results. I call for every result, as they notified me on my one positive 3 months later. My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I said...well, I have been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said yes it was, but still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I even said to her that it isn't really a positive, because under the cut off, and she said I was right.....but still wants the letter because it was over ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid......... > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result for > > my > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > > > time > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this > > was > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > > yi, > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > > > don't > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > > the > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > > that > > > is > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I > > saw > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 My probation monitor last week on Friday....so that would have been December 22, 2006. > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result for > my > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > > time > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this > was > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > yi, > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > > don't > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > the > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > that > > is > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I > saw > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 I guess I'm unclear what the cutoff of 500 means then, if you are expected to produce a level of zero. They cannot be using a cutoff of 500 cause if they were, they wouldn't even know > > > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result > for > > > my > > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as > one > > > > time > > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course > this > > > was > > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > > > yi, > > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the > way, > > > > don't > > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > > > the > > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > > > that > > > > is > > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when > I > > > saw > > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 exactly, damned if i do, damned if i don't. A positive is over 500, but because i had a level of something...260...i still have to write a letter....doesn't make sense to me....and it is driving me crazy...and my nerves are shot....9.5 months left...and scared to death. > > > > > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result > > for > > > > my > > > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as > > one > > > > > time > > > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course > > this > > > > was > > > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > > > > yi, > > > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the > > way, > > > > > don't > > > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > > > > the > > > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when > > I > > > > saw > > > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 what state are you in I need that info can you get it from your state probation board??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 the bottom line is there are no set rules. I too was told by diversion that it was 500 but they said even if it is 100 they could consider it a relapse. " The etg is just a tool and the dec has the final word. " per my old case manager Look at lorie in the pharmacy progam, has 1 positive and she is punished 1st time. I am getting a head ache just thinking about it, it doesn't make any sense to me. By the way lorie what ever happened to the nurse in probation who had 3 positive? --- nilesclay <nilesclay@...> wrote: > Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my > results. I call for > every result, as they notified me on my one positive > 3 months later. > My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I > said...well, I have > been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said > yes it was, but > still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I > even said to her > that it isn't really a positive, because under the > cut off, and she > said I was right.....but still wants the letter > because it was over > ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid......... > > > > > > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another > " positive " EtG. The result > for > > > my > > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results > of every test, as > one > > > > time > > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a > positive. Of course > this > > > was > > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write > a letter....ee yi > > > yi, > > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off > probation???????? By the > way, > > > > don't > > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp > linguine....I noticed > > > the > > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER > consuming 9/10's. I think > > > that > > > > is > > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was > pooping my pants when > I > > > saw > > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 hi n,you know you are right about the stupidity of all this..the EtG level in in all of us including our monitors is NEVER zero just not measured by them by choice below 100ng/ml..regards,r nilesclay <nilesclay@...> wrote: Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my results. I call for every result, as they notified me on my one positive 3 months later. My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I said...well, I have been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said yes it was, but still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I even said to her that it isn't really a positive, because under the cut off, and she said I was right.....but still wants the letter because it was over ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid.........> > > >> > > > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for> > my> > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one> > > time> > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this> > was> > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi> > yi,> > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way,> > > don't> > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed> > the> > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think> > that> > > is> > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I> > saw> > > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 , That nurse is now a member of this discussion group -- doing a CDIOP. Maybe she can give an update, if there is any. Hartman <jhartman32001@...> wrote: the bottom line is there are no set rules. I too wastold by diversion that it was 500 but they said even if it is 100 they could consider it a relapse. "Theetg is just a tool and the dec has the final word." per my old case manager Look at lorie in the pharmacyprogam, has 1 positive and she is punished 1st time. Iam getting a head ache just thinking about it, itdoesn't make any sense to me. By the way lorie whatever happened to the nurse in probation who had 3positive?--- nilesclay <nilesclay > wrote:> Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my> results. I call for > every result, as they notified me on my one positive> 3 months later. > My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I> said...well, I have > been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said> yes it was, but > still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I> even said to her > that it isn't really a positive, because under the> cut off, and she > said I was right.....but still wants the letter> because it was over > ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid.........> > > > > > > >> > > > > okay, here i am again with another> "positive" EtG. The result > for> > > my> > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results> of every test, as > one> > > > time> > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a> positive. Of course > this> > > was> > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write> a letter....ee yi> > > yi,> > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off> probation???????? By the > way,> > > > don't> > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp> linguine....I noticed> > > the> > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER> consuming 9/10's. I think> > > that> > > > is> > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was> pooping my pants when > I> > > saw> > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Maybe you should be getting a letter from your PM to put into writing what she said on the phone @ the cutoff, etc. Fair's fair---you write one for her, she writes one for you. Just to clarify everyone's position........stupid is too tame a word for it all. So Probation's cutoff is 500 & Diversion's is still 250? I thought the cutoff was set by the BRN & was to be the same for both programs---who knows what is really happening; not the right hand, not the left hand. Guess it depends on who answers the question on any given day.nilesclay <nilesclay@...> wrote: Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my results. I call for every result, as they notified me on my one positive 3 months later. My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I said...well, I have been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said yes it was, but still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I even said to her that it isn't really a positive, because under the cut off, and she said I was right.....but still wants the letter because it was over ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid.........> > > >> > > > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for> > my> > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one> > > time> > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this> > was> > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi> > yi,> > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way,> > > don't> > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed> > the> > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think> > that> > > is> > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I> > saw> > > > it......happy holidays to everyone!> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 OK... so It's the end of DEC and I get a bill from Fist Lab (11/27). I havent tested since July. I call the billing office they tell me it's fron my July 27th test. but I was billed in Aug?? Well those results didn't make it to the interface I'm told. OH so now I know why I was sent to administrative court over this, I say. She wants to connect me to "" I said what's the point? So I agree and "" wants to send a letter to my case worker I explained I don't have one anymore it's over and done with! NO NO who can I send an email to? well, send it to , so I wait as she nervously tries to type it. I asked why they didn't know about it "Oh they knew about it Why didn't you notify those that were tested? "we don't know who was tested" was the answer..then who the hell knows who is being tested on which day if they don't!!!!..they have no clue as to what thier F & *% mistakes can do to someone.... like an email was going to help me ...an email 5 months later...no one knows what the hell they are doing... Re: Re: argggggggggggg Maybe you should be getting a letter from your PM to put into writing what she said on the phone @ the cutoff, etc. Fair's fair---you write one for her, she writes one for you. Just to clarify everyone's position........stupid is too tame a word for it all. So Probation's cutoff is 500 & Diversion's is still 250? I thought the cutoff was set by the BRN & was to be the same for both programs---who knows what is really happening; not the right hand, not the left hand. Guess it depends on who answers the question on any given day. nilesclay <nilesclay > wrote: Okay, let me clear this up...i called to get my results. I call for every result, as they notified me on my one positive 3 months later. My monitor said uh oh.....the level is 260. I said...well, I have been advised that the cutoff is 500 now. She said yes it was, but still wanted a letter that we had discussed it. I even said to her that it isn't really a positive, because under the cut off, and she said I was right.....but still wants the letter because it was over ZERO......dang this is getting so stupid......... > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another "positive" EtG. The result for > > my > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as one > > > time > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course this > > was > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > > yi, > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the way, > > > don't > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > > the > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > > that > > > is > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when I > > saw > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Good idea marsha...i am going to ask for a letter.....hmmmm why was i so slow? > > > > > > > > > > okay, here i am again with another " positive " EtG. The result > for > > > my > > > > > Dec 7th test was 260. I call to get results of every test, as > one > > > > time > > > > > it took them 3 months to notify me of a positive. Of course > this > > > was > > > > > under the cutoff, but I am mandated to write a letter....ee yi > > > yi, > > > > > never ending. Will I ever get off probation???????? By the > way, > > > > don't > > > > > eat the lean cuisine lemon butter shrimp linguine....I noticed > > > the > > > > > white wine in the ingredients AFTER consuming 9/10's. I think > > > that > > > > is > > > > > what caused my low level....cause i was pooping my pants when > I > > > saw > > > > > it......happy holidays to everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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