Re: ETG AND FOOD PRODUCTS

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> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO

> AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

>

Have you considered checking the labels on the food your buying ?? I am

a recovering alcoholic in my 23rd year, and by doing just that I have

avoided alcohol, been able to pass many drug tests with etg, and in

general find other things to worry about. - Oh, I also attend a fair

number of 12 step meeting also.

Gerry

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According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according to the National Library of Health's Household Products Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA

advisory..jpt62001 <jpt62001@...> wrote: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

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Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is listed in GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list. That means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains alcohol. USDA supervises all the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton, turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must say, "this meat cooked with wine." There is no need to give the composition of wine. FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food

composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the label as an ingredient, (ingredients listed on the food labels are always in descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume, than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any technical or functional effect in the food are exempt from food labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum residual alcohol in it,but this level is insignificant. It is very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a policy that permits the use of the words "non-alcoholic" and "alcoholic- free" to describe wine and malt beverages of less than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the qualifier "contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume" accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-alcoholized wine, agrees with the use of the term "non-alcoholic" despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the term "alcohol-free" because it implies that all alcohol has been removed when that may not be the case.(2) robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according to the National Library of Health's Household Products Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption.

According to the SAMSHA advisory..jpt62001 <jpt62001@...> wrote: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

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just wanted to say thanks for the inforobin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is listed in GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list. That means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains alcohol. USDA supervises all

the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton, turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must say, "this meat cooked with wine." There is no need to give the composition of wine. FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the label as an ingredient, (ingredients listed on the food labels are always in descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume, than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any technical or functional effect in the food are

exempt from food labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum residual alcohol in it,but this level is insignificant. It is very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a policy that permits the use of the words "non-alcoholic" and "alcoholic- free" to describe wine and malt beverages of less than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the qualifier "contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume" accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-alcoholized wine, agrees with the

use of the term "non-alcoholic" despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the term "alcohol-free" because it implies that all alcohol has been removed when that may not be the case.(2) robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according

to the National Library of Health's Household Products Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA advisory..jpt62001 <jpt62001 > wrote: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

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Hi, Lorie. I am so sorry you have had yet another positive ETG. Since

my 3 positives in Sept. and Oct., I haven't had anymore. Everything

has been negative. Of course I'm scared to death I'll get one of

those phone calls and like you, I can't afford it. Instead of

revoking my license, probation is going to recommend adding on 1-2

years to my term. I won't believe it until it's in writing.

At this point, I would think diversion would look at some other way

to test you. Can't they see you and this test are not compatible,

especially when you're on antabuse? Can your lawyer make any

recommendations to the board?

If I can do anything to help, let me know. Your friend in recovery,

Diane

-- In Ethylglucuronide , Lorie Garlick <saclorie@...>

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> Dear Gerry the Duck,

> I read EVERY label of EVERYTHING I put in my mouth. I keep a

detailed daily food log. I take Antabuse (and I'm NOT EVEN AN

ALCOHOLIC). And guess how many positives I've now had? SIXTEEN. And

guess how many were the result of an alcoholic beverage or an obvious

source of alcohol? ZERO. Hell Gerry, what's the secret? What am I

missing cause I'd LOVE to find something else to worry about besides

EtG? And please don't suggest that by going to 12-step meetings, one

will avoid positive EtGs. That really creeps me out!

> Lorie

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> myduck30 <gerry9@...> wrote:

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> > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS

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> > AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

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> Have you considered checking the labels on the food your buying ??

I am

> a recovering alcoholic in my 23rd year, and by doing just that I

have

> avoided alcohol, been able to pass many drug tests with etg, and in

> general find other things to worry about. - Oh, I also attend a

fair

> number of 12 step meeting also.

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> Gerry

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--- Hey Duck Face,

OF COURSE you attend a fair share of cult meetings. It is evidenced by

the fact that you believe you can come here and regale us with your

line of BS just like you do in the rewms. I bet you have your

balding,, pot bellied, used car salesman sorry ass in a cult meeting

every day regaling the local freaks, geeks and losers with your stories.

The difference here, my feathered friend, is the fine people here did

not drink the kool-aid, nor did they check their brains at the door of

the musty church basement to attend a nocturnal circle jerk. Got it?

And please, do tell us this, Duck Face. If you are in your 23rd year

of brainwashing, er I mean " recovery " , WTF are you doing taking ETG

tests? ETG has only been around for a few years. DOINKS!!!! Did I

just catch you in a BIG FAT LIE???????? So are you lying about taking

ETG tests or lying about being " in recovery " for 23 years?. We all

know the recovery subculture has bastardized the proper Kings' English

and " in recovery " means attending circle jerks every day and developing

a neurotic obsession with devil drink.

You SHOULD be worrying about things other than ETG. Appears to me

someone is constitutionally incapable of being honest. Appears to me

that in your 23rd year of brainwashing your sorry ass should be over it

already. And BTW, the only place you receive accolades for announcing

your " time " and " working the program " is in the rewms during the circle

jerk. Quite frankly, everyone else thinks you're a bit odd to be

worrying about what you eat some 23 years later. If you can't quit

drinking without obsessing about what you eat a quarter of a century

later, your sorry ass should just drink and be done with it. You had

better summon the Holy Door Knob so you can sit on it and spin for a

while. THAT, my friend, should make an honest man out of you.

In Ethylglucuronide , " myduck30 " <gerry9@...> wrote:

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> > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO

> > AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

> >

>

> Have you considered checking the labels on the food your buying ?? I

am

> a recovering alcoholic in my 23rd year, and by doing just that I have

> avoided alcohol, been able to pass many drug tests with etg, and in

> general find other things to worry about. - Oh, I also attend a fair

> number of 12 step meeting also.

>

> Gerry

>

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you bet joe thanks...pretty amazing that the feds can approve etoh in just about everything and not have to label or tell us and still be GRAS..regards,r..JOE TONG <jpt62001@...> wrote: just wanted to say thanks for the inforobin murray <remurraymd > wrote: Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is listed in GRAS (generally recognized as safe)

list. That means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains alcohol. USDA supervises all the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton, turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must say, "this meat cooked with wine." There is no need to give the composition of wine. FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the label as an ingredient,

(ingredients listed on the food labels are always in descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume, than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any technical or functional effect in the food are exempt from food labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum residual alcohol in it,but this level is insignificant. It is very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a policy that permits the use of the words "non-alcoholic" and "alcoholic- free" to describe wine and malt beverages of less than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the qualifier "contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume" accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-alcoholized wine, agrees with the use of the term "non-alcoholic" despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the term "alcohol-free" because it implies that all alcohol has been removed when that may not be the case.(2) robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG

tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according to the National Library of Health's Household Products Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA advisory..jpt62001 <jpt62001 >

wrote: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST? Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.

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robin have to say im alittle worried as im a National level athelete and i worry about dieting while in the diversion program. i also travel abroad to compete but not sure if the board will approve itrobin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: you bet joe thanks...pretty amazing that the feds can approve etoh in just about everything and not have to label or tell us and still be GRAS..regards,r..JOE TONG <jpt62001 > wrote: just wanted to say thanks for the inforobin murray <remurraymd > wrote: Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is listed in GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list. That means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains alcohol. USDA supervises all the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton, turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must say, "this meat cooked with wine." There is no need to give the composition of wine.

FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the label as an ingredient, (ingredients listed on the food labels are always in descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume, than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any technical or functional effect in the food are exempt from food labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum residual alcohol in it,but this level is

insignificant. It is very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a policy that permits the use of the words "non-alcoholic" and "alcoholic- free" to describe wine and malt beverages of less than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the qualifier "contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume" accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-alcoholized wine, agrees with the use of the term "non-alcoholic" despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the term "alcohol-free" because it

implies that all alcohol has been removed when that may not be the case.(2) robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according to the National Library of Health's Household Products

Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA advisory..jpt62001 <jpt62001 > wrote: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME FOODS TO AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST? Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games.

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--- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6535517.stm

You should read this Joe.

In Ethylglucuronide , JOE TONG <jpt62001@...> wrote:

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> robin

> have to say im alittle worried as im a National level athelete

and i worry about dieting while in the diversion program. i also

travel abroad to compete but not sure if the board will approve it

>

> robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

> you bet joe thanks...pretty amazing that the feds can

approve etoh in just about

> everything and not have to label or tell us and still be

GRAS..regards,r..

>

> JOE TONG <jpt62001@...> wrote:

> just wanted to say thanks for the info

>

> robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: Ethanol or ethyl

alcohol is listed in GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list. That

means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history

of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information

available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food

and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic

principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains

alcohol. USDA supervises all the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton,

turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must

say, " this meat cooked with wine. " There is no need to give the

composition of wine.

> FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more

than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the

jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).

Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises

that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food

composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the label as an

ingredient, (ingredients listed on the food labels are always in

descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other

ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume,

than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives

are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any

technical or functional effect in the food are exempt from food

labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with

different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum

residual alcohol in it,but this level is insignificant. It is

> very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol

content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the

nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light

beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of

calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a

policy that permits the use of the words " non-alcoholic "

and " alcoholic- free " to describe wine and malt beverages of less

than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the

qualifier " contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume "

accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-

alcoholized wine, agrees with the use of the term " non-alcoholic "

despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and

drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the

term " alcohol-free " because it implies that all alcohol has been

removed when that may not be the case.(2)

>

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> robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

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> According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result

from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products,

cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of

alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being

exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even

hair spray.

> There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol,

according to the National Library of Health's Household Products

Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG

urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity

may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find

out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to

determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA advisory..

>

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done a lot of that myself joe retired elite endurance triathlete medical chair us sports academy usoc does not have a clue about EtG be careful with food supplements meds of all types...if you get on their hit list you will have a problem...look at poor marian jones...reputation creer ruined without remorse...somehow sorry just does not cut it.. regards,robinJOE TONG <jpt62001@...> wrote: robin have to say im alittle worried as im a National level athelete and i

worry about dieting while in the diversion program. i also travel abroad to compete but not sure if the board will approve itrobin murray <remurraymd > wrote: you bet joe thanks...pretty amazing that the feds can approve etoh in just about everything and not have to label or tell us and still be GRAS..regards,r..JOE TONG <jpt62001 > wrote: just wanted to say thanks for the inforobin murray <remurraymd > wrote: Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is listed in GRAS

(generally recognized as safe) list. That means this alcohol has been shown to be safe based on a long history of common usage in food. There is not much labeling information available regarding a food that contains alcohol. According to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and USDA following are the basic principles that should be followed regarding a food that contains alcohol. USDA supervises all the meat items (chicken, beef, mutton, turkey, etc.). If the meat is cooked with wine, the label must say, "this meat cooked with wine." There is no need to give the composition of wine. FDA supervises all other food items. (If a food contains more than 7 percent alcohol by volume, that food comes under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). Any food that contains less then 7 percent alcohol FDA supervises that food. According to FDA, if alcohol is the part of the food composition/formula, than alcohol must be included on the

label as an ingredient, (ingredients listed on the food labels are always in descending order, by weight/volume). If alcohol is a part of other ingredients, i.e., flavor, and it is less than 0.5 percent by volume, than it comes under incidental ingredients. Some incidental additives are present in a food at insignificant levels and do not have any technical or functional effect in the food are exempt from food labeling requirements. Most of the flavors are extracted with different solvents (alcohols). These flavors may have a very minimum residual alcohol in it,but this level is insignificant. It is very difficult to remove 100% solvent from these flavors. Alcohol content of foods and beverages is not required to be listed on the nutrition panel. However, some alcoholic beverages, such as light beers and wine coolers, provide information about the amount of calories, carbohydrate, protein, and fat they contain.(6) ATF has a policy that permits the use of the words "non-alcoholic" and "alcoholic- free" to describe wine and malt beverages of less than 0.5 percent alcohol. ATF also requires that the qualifier "contains less than 0. 5 percent alcohol by volume" accompany any use of the word non-alcoholic. FDA, which regulates de-alcoholized wine, agrees with the use of the term "non-alcoholic" despite the half-percent maximum because a number of foods and drinks, has traces of alcohol in them. But FDA objects to the term "alcohol-free" because it implies that all alcohol has been removed when that may not be the case.(2) robin murray <remurraymd > wrote:

According to SAMSHA's research, positive EtG tests can result from the use of hand sanitizers, medications, hygiene products, cosmetics, foods and other products that contain even small levels of alcohol. People can test positive for alcohol consumption after being exposed to laundry detergent, antiperspirant, aftershave and even hair spray. There are hundreds of household products that contain ethanol, according to the National Library of Health's Household Products Database, which could possibly cause a false positive with the EtG urine test. The advisory also said that gender, age, or ethnicity may also affect EtG test results, but more research is needed to find out for sure. The EtG test is simply not reliable by itself to determine alcohol consumption. According to the SAMSHA

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> > > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SITE I CAN GO TO THAT WILL SHOULD ME

FOODS TO

> > > AVOID TO KEEP FROM TESTING POSITIVE WITH THE ETG TEST?

> > >

> >

> > Have you considered checking the labels on the food your

buying ?? I

> am

> > a recovering alcoholic in my 23rd year, and by doing just that I

have

> > avoided alcohol, been able to pass many drug tests with etg, and

in

> > general find other things to worry about. - Oh, I also attend a

fair

> > number of 12 step meeting also.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> Lets see if I can answer you in simple language that you might

understand.

1. I have a full head of hair, a 34 inch waist and do not sell or

drive used cars.

2. I am fully aware of when Greg Skipper brought etg into the

States. He was at that time, and still is Director of the Alabama

Physicians Program.

3. Because of the nature of our business (which is none of yours),

we are subject to random testing, which includes ETG.)

4. Many of the people sitting around " the circle jerk " are

Physicians, Nurses, and even the occasional Pharmacist.

Finally, I must assume that you are a kindergarten dropout because of

your frequent use of vulgarity. Any degrees held probably were

received thru a mail order diploma mill ?? Do have a nice day