Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a copy of th WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate these people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to hear any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ( " we just send the test out " ). They were polite and said they'd read the Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do anything about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I just had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was " that's pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about that' " I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, either I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I haven't used perfume since all this EtG BS started & I am nervous @ walking thru the fragrance dept in stores!!! "Normal" people think that's really weird--EtG'ers "get it." Another reason to stick together!!!"Carol J. Basbcock" <carolandalynn@...> wrote: I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a copy of th WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate these people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to hear any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ("we just send the test out"). They were polite and said they'd read the Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do anything about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I just had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was "that's pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about that'" I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, either I guess. Check out the New - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 but you're a criminal now, smelling good is a crime, along with drinking coffee, imbibing any sort of juice, rinsing your teeth, pumping gas, cleaning your floor and watching beer commercials during the super bowl! It's interesting that they know that external influences can change a test, but don't really care. Everything comes down to two things: money and power -- ask almost any divorcee, politician or other authority figure. There's lots of money and power to be had on all sides by keeping people in a broken system. Billions of dollars and thousands of jobs. Chris"Carol J. Basbcock" <carolandalynn@...> wrote: I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a copy of th WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate these people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to hear any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ("we just send the test out"). They were polite and said they'd read the Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do anything about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I just had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was "that's pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about that'" I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, either I guess. Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited Try it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 The thing that grates me about it is that, instead of recognizing that, perhaps, some changes need to me made with regards to the use of the test (e.g. raising cutoffs), or its use should be scrapped altogether until more studies are done, the most common suggestion seems to be amending monitoring agreements to stipulate that we avoid not only alcoholic beverages, but anything that could conceivably contain alcohol. It's ridiculous, in that there are far too many sources of potential incidental alcohol exposure, and the end result, at least in my case, is a degree of paranoia regarding just about anything I may expose myself to. Thanks to EtG, these so-called " recovery programs " are now more about producing negative urines than they are about staying clean/sober. I can understand certain things--for example, I see no problem in avoiding things like mouthwash containing alcohol, NyQuil i.e. things that one could conceivably use to get drunk. But the minute amount of alcohol one is exposed to from eating certain foods, consuming fruit juices, using hand sanitizer, or certain cosmetics/toiletries, cannot, by any reasonable person's estimate, lead to intoxication. This whole thing stinks, and I can't wait until it's over. To tell you the truth, I have managed to develop a good relationship with the staff at my monitoring program, and I was thinking about continuing on voluntarily after my initial agreement had run its course. But, with things the way they are, I'd prefer to close the door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. I'm sure as hell not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my license once I'm free and clear with the board. > I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a copy of th > WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate these > people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to hear > any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ( " we > just send the test out " ). They were polite and said they'd read the > Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do anything > about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I just > had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was " that's > pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about > that' " I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, > either I guess. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited Try it today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 --- What other group of people would this be done to? I'll tell ya, NONE. The reason this is being done to ya'll is because of the myth put forth by those who are supposed to be the ones to help you, the addiction trickment industry. It is perfectly acceptable to violate your basic human rights, marganilize, infantalize and stigmatize you because you are all nothing but a bunch of " lyin, cheatin, stealin, DRUG ADDICTS " . You can all thank your social worker friends, who by the way, are crazier than the people they treat. And you can thank the pseuo Drs. who pretend to be real Drs. Until people with addiction stand up to these people and stop putting their tail between their legs and " admitting " they are full of character defects and spreading the myth that the only way to recover from an addiction is through divine intervention, this will continue. If ya'll call yourselves liars and cheaters, how do you expect others to respect you? In Ethylglucuronide , " giantsfan70191 " <flamingo@...> wrote: > > The thing that grates me about it is that, instead of recognizing > that, perhaps, some changes need to me made with regards to the use > of the test (e.g. raising cutoffs), or its use should be scrapped > altogether until more studies are done, the most common suggestion > seems to be amending monitoring agreements to stipulate that we > avoid not only alcoholic beverages, but anything that could > conceivably contain alcohol. > > It's ridiculous, in that there are far too many sources of potential > incidental alcohol exposure, and the end result, at least in my > case, is a degree of paranoia regarding just about anything I may > expose myself to. Thanks to EtG, these so-called " recovery > programs " are now more about producing negative urines than they are > about staying clean/sober. > > I can understand certain things--for example, I see no problem in > avoiding things like mouthwash containing alcohol, NyQuil i.e. > things that one could conceivably use to get drunk. But the minute > amount of alcohol one is exposed to from eating certain foods, > consuming fruit juices, using hand sanitizer, or certain > cosmetics/toiletries, cannot, by any reasonable person's estimate, > lead to intoxication. > > This whole thing stinks, and I can't wait until it's over. To tell > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good relationship with > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was thinking about > continuing on voluntarily after my initial agreement had run its > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd prefer to close the > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. I'm sure as hell > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my license once I'm > free and clear with the board. > > > > I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a > copy of th > > WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate > these > > people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to > hear > > any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ( " we > > just send the test out " ). They were polite and said they'd read > the > > Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do > anything > > about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I > just > > had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was " that's > > pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about > > that' " I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, > > either I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited Try it today. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 > To tell > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good relationship with > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was thinking about > continuing on voluntarily after my initial agreement had run its > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd prefer to close the > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. I'm sure as hell > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my license once I'm > free and clear with the board. Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that that is *exactly* what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly welcome the strictures IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the time they made some sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like a crap shoot (and I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew of potty jokes - take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I jump about a foot in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News. I used to think that just keeping clean and sober and working a honest program were enough. Now I have to worry about everything I eat or drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental positive; since I don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I have no clue as to how avoid another such incident. I've totally lost faith in IPN now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow if I ever want to be employable. I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that old Tom Lehrer song, " Pollution " : " ..just two things of which you must beware: don't drink the water and don't breathe the air! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 my point exactly. If these tests are universally "accurate", and the problem is "universal" as well, given that most "therapists", etc. would determine an alcoholic as someone who consumes more than 1 drink per week, then based upon an equality statement, shouldn't everyone be tested all the time? Speaking from personal experience in the family court system, and accusation is all that is required for one party to be tested, and a pollyanna routine usually suffices for the other party to be excluded (although I volunteered as a means of proving my innocence). The "counseling" and "testing" industry are in a unique and fighteningly powerful position in that they require residual business to survive. Actually "curing" anyone would put them out of business. And, more importantly, they are subsidized by the most flagarant perpetrator of problem creating residual businesses -- the goverment -- which would not exist without the creation of sustainable problems for it to "solve". Chrismadisonxyz2000 <madisonxyz2000@...> wrote: --- What other group of people would this be done to? I'll tell ya, NONE. The reason this is being done to ya'll is because of the myth put forth by those who are supposed to be the ones to help you, the addiction trickment industry. It is perfectly acceptable to violate your basic human rights, marganilize, infantalize and stigmatize you because you are all nothing but a bunch of "lyin, cheatin, stealin, DRUG ADDICTS". You can all thank your social worker friends, who by the way, are crazier than the people they treat. And you can thank the pseuo Drs. who pretend to be real Drs.Until people with addiction stand up to these people and stop putting their tail between their legs and "admitting" they are full of character defects and spreading the myth that the only way to recover from an addiction is through divine intervention, this will continue.If ya'll call yourselves liars and cheaters, how do you expect others to respect you?In Ethylglucuronide , "giantsfan70191" <flamingo@...> wrote:>> The thing that grates me about it is that, instead of recognizing > that, perhaps, some changes need to me made with regards to the use > of the test (e.g. raising cutoffs), or its use should be scrapped > altogether until more studies are done, the most common suggestion > seems to be amending monitoring agreements to stipulate that we > avoid not only alcoholic beverages, but anything that could > conceivably contain alcohol.> > It's ridiculous, in that there are far too many sources of potential > incidental alcohol exposure, and the end result, at least in my > case, is a degree of paranoia regarding just about anything I may > expose myself to. Thanks to EtG, these so-called "recovery > programs" are now more about producing negative urines than they are > about staying clean/sober.> > I can understand certain things--for example, I see no problem in > avoiding things like mouthwash containing alcohol, NyQuil i.e. > things that one could conceivably use to get drunk. But the minute > amount of alcohol one is exposed to from eating certain foods, > consuming fruit juices, using hand sanitizer, or certain > cosmetics/toiletries, cannot, by any reasonable person's estimate, > lead to intoxication.> > This whole thing stinks, and I can't wait until it's over. To tell > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good relationship with > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was thinking about > continuing on voluntarily after my initial agreement had run its > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd prefer to close the > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. I'm sure as hell > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my license once I'm > free and clear with the board.> > > > I just got back from testing (oh happy day) and I took a > copy of th > > WSJ article and th SAMHSA Adisory with me. I tried to educate > these > > people as they do the EtG test for CPS, but they didn't want to > hear > > any of it. I asked what their cutoff was and they didn't know ("we > > just send the test out"). They were polite and said they'd read > the > > Advisry and the WSJ article, but I doubt thta they will do > anything > > about it. Sad for those women trying to get their kids back. I > just > > had to sound off. As I was leaving, her comment to me was "that's > > pretty strong perfume you're wearing, maybe you should worry about > > that'" I had one squirt of cologne on. Now we can't smell good, > > either I guess.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited Try it today.> >> Everyone is raving about the all-new . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I will have to admit intially the diversion program got me through the toughest withdraw symptoms. I had terrible leg pains, I wanted to amputate them off, but I didn't use because I knew I would be tested. But then when I started testinging positive for etg, I couldn't even focus on my recovery. I sat up every night looking for the answer to my problem. I was having nightmares, heck I was living a nightmare. Having my trip taken away, going to rehab 3 times in 3 months, for what positive etg tests. I would be teased intermittently with clean ua, I would take a deep breath for a couple of days followed by another slam in the head " it's Joanie your CM, you have had another positive, is there anything you want to tell me? " Last monday when she told me that, I took a deep breath and told her I would have to withdraw from the program. I was soooo scared I imagined the cops breaking down my front door and taking me to jail. But with all of the wonderful posts on this board and personalposts sent to me, I have realized, I will be okay. This is not the end of the world for me. I am going to continue my recovery, go to my aftercare, work with sponser, heck one of the aftercare offered to do free drug tests for me until I meet up with the board. I have to admit I feel like I can finally concentrate on my recovery. The only time I thought of using was when they were telling me I relapsed. I am currently looking for a nursing job, a safe one, and I am happy for once. I know probation still tests for etg, but I am going to work with my md to test on the side. I don't know what I would of done wihtout this group, I can't imagine how some of you dealt with this problem when the test first came out and this support group wasn't available. I have never met any of you, but you feel like family to me. --- Judy <floridajudy@...> wrote: > > > > To tell > > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good > relationship with > > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was > thinking about > > continuing on voluntarily after my initial > agreement had run its > > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd > prefer to close the > > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. > I'm sure as hell > > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my > license once I'm > > free and clear with the board. > > Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that > that is *exactly* > what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly > welcome the strictures > IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the > time they made some > sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like > a crap shoot (and > I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew > of potty jokes - > take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I > jump about a foot > in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News. > > I used to think that just keeping clean and sober > and working a honest > program were enough. Now I have to worry about > everything I eat or > drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental > positive; since I > don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I > have no clue as > to how avoid another such incident. I've totally > lost faith in IPN > now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow > if I ever want to > be employable. > > I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that > old Tom Lehrer > song, " Pollution " : > " ..just two things of which you must beware: > don't drink the water and don't breathe the > air! " > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to (http://) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Thanks , some day we will all be on the other side of this. joy Hartman <jhartman32001@...> wrote: I will have to admit intially the diversion program got me through the toughest withdraw symptoms. I had terrible leg pains, I wanted to amputate them off, but I didn't use because I knew I would be tested. But then when I started testinging positive for etg, I couldn't even focus on my recovery. I sat up every night looking for the answer to my problem. I was having nightmares, heck I was living a nightmare. Having my trip taken away, going to rehab 3 times in 3 months, for what positive etg tests. I would be teased intermittently with clean ua, I would take a deep breath for a couple of days followed by another slam in the head " it's Joanie your CM, you have had another positive, is there anything you want to tell me?" Last monday when she told me that, I took a deep breath and told her I would have to withdraw from the program. I was soooo scared I imagined the cops breaking down my front door and taking me to jail. But with all of the wonderful posts on this board and personalposts sent to me, I have realized, I will be okay. This is not the end of the world for me. I am going to continue my recovery, go to my aftercare, work with sponser, heck one of the aftercare offered to do free drug tests for me until I meet up with the board. I have to admit I feel like I can finally concentrate on my recovery. The only time I thought of using was when they were telling me I relapsed. I am currently looking for a nursing job, a safe one, and I am happy for once. I know probation still tests for etg, but I am going to work with my md to test on the side. I don't know what I would of done wihtout this group, I can't imagine how some of you dealt with this problem when the test first came out and this support group wasn't available. I have never met any of you, but you feel like family to me. --- Judy <floridajudygru (DOT) net> wrote: > > > > To tell > > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good > relationship with > > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was > thinking about > > continuing on voluntarily after my initial > agreement had run its > > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd > prefer to close the > > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. > I'm sure as hell > > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my > license once I'm > > free and clear with the board. > > Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that > that is *exactly* > what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly > welcome the strictures > IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the > time they made some > sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like > a crap shoot (and > I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew > of potty jokes - > take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I > jump about a foot > in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News. > > I used to think that just keeping clean and sober > and working a honest > program were enough. Now I have to worry about > everything I eat or > drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental > positive; since I > don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I > have no clue as > to how avoid another such incident. I've totally > lost faith in IPN > now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow > if I ever want to > be employable. > > I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that > old Tom Lehrer > song, "Pollution": > "..just two things of which you must beware: > don't drink the water and don't breathe the > air!" > > > __________________________________________________________ We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to (http://) Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm glad you can finally focus on your recovery; I have only been involved in this group for 2 months, and I too can't imagine what I would have done without it...I hope someday I will be able to put a face to the personalities I have gotten to know here...BTW, what did " Joanie " say when you told her you would have to withdraw from the program? Amy > > > > > To tell > > > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good > > relationship with > > > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was > > thinking about > > > continuing on voluntarily after my initial > > agreement had run its > > > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd > > prefer to close the > > > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. > > I'm sure as hell > > > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my > > license once I'm > > > free and clear with the board. > > > > Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that > > that is *exactly* > > what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly > > welcome the strictures > > IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the > > time they made some > > sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like > > a crap shoot (and > > I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew > > of potty jokes - > > take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I > > jump about a foot > > in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News. > > > > I used to think that just keeping clean and sober > > and working a honest > > program were enough. Now I have to worry about > > everything I eat or > > drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental > > positive; since I > > don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I > > have no clue as > > to how avoid another such incident. I've totally > > lost faith in IPN > > now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow > > if I ever want to > > be employable. > > > > I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that > > old Tom Lehrer > > song, " Pollution " : > > " ..just two things of which you must beware: > > don't drink the water and don't breathe the > > air! " > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Groups > (http://) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think she was relieved. Usually she would give me a scare, "you know there is no guarantee you will be accepted into probation, and you can be prosecuted." Well I am finding out there is no guarantee, you can finish diversion, I could still be prosecuted by my work if they wanted to, even if I finish diversion. I just don't want to go 3-5 years in diversion, then be told you have to start over. I would rather try this route. But any ways , I told my CM that I have thought over this decsion and I feel it is the best for my recovery to withdraw from diversion, she agreed. I don't know if what I am doing is right or wrong. I just know I have tried my best with the diversion program, now I need a breath or two before the BRN catches up to me, I just keep thinking "this too shall pass." By the way I have a friend who left diversion and probation didn't work out either, they tried to scare her too. Then at one of her DECs one of the board reps told her, you can always drop out of everything if you lose your license you can always reapply. Well she did completed probation and has been sober for 10 years. Anything is possible. amykellog <amykellog@...> wrote: I'm glad you can finally focus on your recovery; I have only been involved in this group for 2 months, and I too can't imagine what I would have done without it...I hope someday I will be able to put a face to the personalities I have gotten to know here...BTW, what did "Joanie" say when you told her you would have to withdraw from the program? Amy > > > > > To tell > > > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good> > relationship with > > > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was> > thinking about > > > continuing on voluntarily after my initial> > agreement had run its > > > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd> > prefer to close the > > > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. > > I'm sure as hell > > > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my> > license once I'm > > > free and clear with the board.> > > > Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that> > that is *exactly*> > what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly> > welcome the strictures> > IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the> > time they made some> > sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like> > a crap shoot (and> > I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew> > of potty jokes -> > take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I> > jump about a foot> > in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News.> > > > I used to think that just keeping clean and sober> > and working a honest> > program were enough. Now I have to worry about> > everything I eat or> > drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental> > positive; since I> > don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I> > have no clue as> > to how avoid another such incident. I've totally> > lost faith in IPN> > now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow> > if I ever want to> > be employable.> > > > I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that> > old Tom Lehrer> > song, "Pollution":> > "..just two things of which you must beware:> > don't drink the water and don't breathe the> > air!"> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to > (http://)> Check out the New - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well I'm glad she didn't harass you any further, and I'm sure you are relieved too; Good luck with the probation path, I don't think one can say if it is " right or wrong, " for it only matters if it is right for YOU...And if you didn't do ANYTHING, like even finish probation, isn't it up to your work to press charges to make it go that far as to lose your license, or since they already turned you into the board is it just now in the hands of the BRN anyway? (I am assuming that your work did turn yo in; I wonder if you only " self referred " if one could get out of any of it in the longrun...obviously, DOUBTFUL)...See, just talking about it like that makes me realize that it is SO not about recovery anymore, how sad... Amy > > > > > > > To tell > > > > you the truth, I have managed to develop a good > > > relationship with > > > > the staff at my monitoring program, and I was > > > thinking about > > > > continuing on voluntarily after my initial > > > agreement had run its > > > > course. But, with things the way they are, I'd > > > prefer to close the > > > > door on EtG testing at the earliest opportunity. > > > I'm sure as hell > > > > not volunteering to play Russian roulette with my > > > license once I'm > > > > free and clear with the board. > > > > > > Don't any of the folks monitoring us realize that > > > that is *exactly* > > > what stinks about this test? I didn't exactly > > > welcome the strictures > > > IPN put on me, but I accepted them because at the > > > time they made some > > > sense. Now every time I pee in a cup it feels like > > > a crap shoot (and > > > I just opened myself up to some smarty with a slew > > > of potty jokes - > > > take your best shot). Every time my phone rings I > > > jump about a foot > > > in the air for fear it's IPN with more Bad News. > > > > > > I used to think that just keeping clean and sober > > > and working a honest > > > program were enough. Now I have to worry about > > > everything I eat or > > > drink or breathe possibly causing another incidental > > > positive; since I > > > don't know what caused me to flunk the first test, I > > > have no clue as > > > to how avoid another such incident. I've totally > > > lost faith in IPN > > > now; it's just a ridulous protocol I have to follow > > > if I ever want to > > > be employable. > > > > > > I'm showing my age when I recall the lyrics to that > > > old Tom Lehrer > > > song, " Pollution " : > > > " ..just two things of which you must beware: > > > don't drink the water and don't breathe the > > > air! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Groups > > (http://) > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Check out the New - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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