Re: What products not to use????????

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I know how you feel, the more I read about etg the more paranoid I get, my son just got one of those invisible ink book things, he asked me to help him, I opened the cap and it smells just like an alcohol wipe, I helped him but made sure I didn't get any of the ink on me, I pump gas and try not to breath in the fumes..... someone else posted this link a month or so ago - beware - it'll make you even more paranoid!! http://www.householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem & id=26kfaires <kfaires@...> wrote: Does anyone in this entire scientific conundrum have a list of products to avoid when your life depends on this hyper-sensitive test??? I just got out of 4 months of residential drug/etoh tx and my case manager for the RN Diversion program in San Francisco doen't even know??? This is ludicrous, in my opinion. She told me, "It is just better to be safe than sorry." I mean, can I wear perfume??? Can I use hairspray? Even 's Baby Lotion contains alcohol. Will it be absorbed transdermally and show in the ETG test??? Does ANYONE have any anwers. I would really appreciate it.

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not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really paranoid, no

vanilla extract - does this mean no more cakes/cookies/candy???? I

suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the list of no

no's??

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Vanilla Code of Federal Regulations The production of Pure Vanilla Extract is governed in the United States by the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR - 169.175 and following sections). Within these regulations it is established that in vanilla EXTRACT the content of ethyl alcohol is not less than 35 percent by volume and the content of vanilla constituent, as defined in §169.3© is not less than one unit per gallon. The term unit

weight of vanilla beans means, in the case of vanilla beans containing not more than 25 percent moisture, 13.35 ounces of such beans; and, in the case of vanilla beans containing more than 25 percent moisture, it means the weight of such beans equivalent in content of moisture-free vanilla-bean solids to 13.35 ounces of vanilla beans containing 25 percent moisture. The term unit of vanilla constituent means the total sapid and odorous principles extractable from one unit weight of vanilla beans, as defined in paragraph ( of section 169.3, by an aqueous alcohol solution in which the content of ethyl alcohol by volume amounts to not less than 35 percent hi amy,the pure extract is significant but baked goods contain minimal etoh if any...might stay away from the rum balls,though...regards,rpennsyamy <pennsyamy@...> wrote: not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really paranoid, no vanilla extract - does this mean no more cakes/cookies/candy???? I suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the list of no no's??

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hi again amy,candy is less than .5% unless labeled...regards,r Confectionery containing more than 0.5% alcohol by volume must display a label ... "Sale of confectionery containing more than 0.5% alcohol to persons under ...swedishtrade.se/.../71735_ALCOHOL IN CONFECTIONERY 2004, USA.doc - 216k - View as html - More from this site - Saverobin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: Vanilla Code of Federal Regulations The production of Pure Vanilla Extract is governed in the United States by the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR - 169.175 and following sections). Within these regulations it is established that in vanilla EXTRACT the content of ethyl alcohol is not less than 35 percent by volume and the content of vanilla constituent, as defined in §169.3© is not less than one unit per gallon. The term unit weight of vanilla beans means, in the case of vanilla beans containing not more than 25 percent moisture, 13.35 ounces of such beans; and, in the case of vanilla beans containing more than 25 percent moisture, it means the weight of such beans equivalent in content of moisture-free vanilla-bean solids to 13.35 ounces of vanilla beans containing 25 percent moisture.

The term unit of vanilla constituent means the total sapid and odorous principles extractable from one unit weight of vanilla beans, as defined in paragraph ( of section 169.3, by an aqueous alcohol solution in which the content of ethyl alcohol by volume amounts to not less than 35 percent hi amy,the pure extract is significant but baked goods contain minimal etoh if any...might stay away from the rum balls,though...regards,rpennsyamy <pennsyamy > wrote: not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really paranoid, no vanilla extract - does this mean no more cakes/cookies/candy???? I suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the list of no no's?? Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment

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> not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really

paranoid, no

> vanilla extract - does this mean no more cakes/cookies/candy???? I

> suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the list of no

> no's??

>

> I quess if anyone needs to lose weight stay away from cookies, cakes

and candy. You have to have some since of humor or will all go crazy.

Kathy from Kansas

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> > pennsyamy <pennsyamy@> wrote:

> > not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really

> paranoid, no

> > vanilla extract - does this mean no more cakes/cookies/candy???? I

> > suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the list of no

> > no's

Sorry I've been incommunicado for the last week; I was moving, and

didn't have my phone hooked up (now I've got DSL, and it kicks butt).

I have this dog (don't worry, this really *is* relevant), an elderly

Tibetan Terrier, aka The Doggie Lama. The past few weeks she's been

acting completely under the weather: no pep, no energy, sleeping a

lot. I thought it was just stress from the move, but then all her

hair began falling out in great handfuls. Since this can be a sign of

diabetes or hypothyroidism in dogs, I got her to the vet post haste.

Turns out she's got a skin infection. I paid over $300 bucks for

various pills and ointments, and got a bottle of ear drops to be

applied twice daily.

Any dog who suddenly finds herself with an earful of liquid is gonna

do just one thing - shake her head like crazy. She managed to cover

me in doggie medication. I stood there thinking, " Hey. This stuff

doesn't smell half bad. I fact, it smells a lot like vanilla...OH

CRAP! " I checked the ingredients. The first two were alcohol and

vanilla. Thank goodness this happened on Weds afternoon, and Lab Corps

was closed Thurs and Fri. This also brings up the question of why

*anyone* would want her dog to smell like a pastry, but that's beside

the point.

Now, how am I going to explain to the vet why I haven't dosed my dog's

ears since then? " Well there's this test, and if I come in any contact

with alcohol I could flunk it...no, I wasn't going to drink the ear

drops...I mean, it's a really, REALLY sensitive test... "

And I had to give up hanging those new " nail-less " hooks. You have to

wipe the walls with alcohol first, and I don't think it would be easy

to explain to the maintenance guy why I called him to do it for me.

Do normal people live this way? Do their dogs have to forgo ear drops,

and do they themselves have to live without towel racks?

By the way, the dog is doing much, much better, even without the ear

drops.

[Guest guest]

---Now Judy,

Did you not learn NUTHIN from the " tards " in the 12-step freak

show? You MUST be willing to go to any length to stay sober. You

MUST do the hard work necessary, you MUST get off the pity pot, you

MUST look for your part in it.

According to that Ken Krap guy who was quoted in the Wall Street

Journal you MUST avoid ANY AND ALL alcohol cuz you might just get

triggered! OH CRAP! LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS, OH MY!

Now, I think you need to do a 4th step IMMEDIATELY. I'll loan you

my HP if you need it. But I'm a tellin ya, that Smarty can be

a real prick, especially if he shows up drunk.

In Ethylglucuronide , " Judy " <floridajudy@...> wrote:

>

> > > pennsyamy <pennsyamy@> wrote:

> > > not to sound really srupid, I'm more just getting really

> > paranoid, no

> > > vanilla extract - does this mean no more

cakes/cookies/candy???? I

> > > suppose store bought cakes or cookies would be high on the

list of no

> > > no's

>

> Sorry I've been incommunicado for the last week; I was moving, and

> didn't have my phone hooked up (now I've got DSL, and it kicks

butt).

>

> I have this dog (don't worry, this really *is* relevant), an

elderly

> Tibetan Terrier, aka The Doggie Lama. The past few weeks she's

been

> acting completely under the weather: no pep, no energy, sleeping a

> lot. I thought it was just stress from the move, but then all

her

> hair began falling out in great handfuls. Since this can be a

sign of

> diabetes or hypothyroidism in dogs, I got her to the vet post

haste.

> Turns out she's got a skin infection. I paid over $300 bucks for

> various pills and ointments, and got a bottle of ear drops to be

> applied twice daily.

>

> Any dog who suddenly finds herself with an earful of liquid is

gonna

> do just one thing - shake her head like crazy. She managed to

cover

> me in doggie medication. I stood there thinking, " Hey. This stuff

> doesn't smell half bad. I fact, it smells a lot like vanilla...OH

> CRAP! " I checked the ingredients. The first two were alcohol and

> vanilla. Thank goodness this happened on Weds afternoon, and Lab

Corps

> was closed Thurs and Fri. This also brings up the question of why

> *anyone* would want her dog to smell like a pastry, but that's

beside

> the point.

>

> Now, how am I going to explain to the vet why I haven't dosed my

dog's

> ears since then? " Well there's this test, and if I come in any

contact

> with alcohol I could flunk it...no, I wasn't going to drink the ear

> drops...I mean, it's a really, REALLY sensitive test... "

>

> And I had to give up hanging those new " nail-less " hooks. You

have to

> wipe the walls with alcohol first, and I don't think it would be

easy

> to explain to the maintenance guy why I called him to do it for me.

>

> Do normal people live this way? Do their dogs have to forgo ear

drops,

> and do they themselves have to live without towel racks?

>

> By the way, the dog is doing much, much better, even without the

ear

> drops.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I must confess!

When I discovered that Lab Corps was closed last Weds and Thurs for

Thanksgiving, I did something Wild and Crazy.

I Scotch-Guarded my sofa. I didn't see any alcohol on the list of

ingredients, but it *is* called " Scotch " Guard, so who knows.

Now we see the depths of depravity and relapse an unsuspecting woman

can be led to by being exposed to secondhand veterinary medication.

Think we can get the FDA to classify canine ear drops as a Gateway drug?

>

> According to that Ken Krap guy who was quoted in the Wall Street

> Journal you MUST avoid ANY AND ALL alcohol cuz you might just get

> triggered! OH CRAP! LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS, OH MY!

>

> Now, I think you need to do a 4th step IMMEDIATELY.

[Guest guest]

Ya probably won't get the FDA to classify it but just ask some of the people who run these programs and I bet it's a winner!!

Re: What products not to use????????

Yes, I must confess!

When I discovered that Lab Corps was closed last Weds and Thurs for

Thanksgiving, I did something Wild and Crazy.

I Scotch-Guarded my sofa. I didn't see any alcohol on the list of

ingredients, but it *is* called "Scotch" Guard, so who knows.

Now we see the depths of depravity and relapse an unsuspecting woman

can be led to by being exposed to secondhand veterinary medication.

Think we can get the FDA to classify canine ear drops as a Gateway drug?

>

> According to that Ken Krap guy who was quoted in the Wall Street

> Journal you MUST avoid ANY AND ALL alcohol cuz you might just get

> triggered! OH CRAP! LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS, OH MY!

>

> Now, I think you need to do a 4th step IMMEDIATELY.

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