Re: The new way to get clean!

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trying.....to...resist.....

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ohhhhh...........i did not know that this was the path to get clean, damn i was on the wrong road again..................:):)Lorie <saclorie@...> wrote: http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork, service, and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got me DIRTY, not CLEAN...I'm confused again... Madison, maybe I

should contact Ken Krap for clarification?

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---Indeed you should! Obviously, he has information that escapes

everyone else. He appears to know a million different things that

cause people to drink, that being....cookies, vanilla, hand sanitizer,

ice cream, rum balls, hygiene products, and beauty products. (Of

course, I've never had to use beauty products)

I, on the other hand, only know of one thing that will make you drink,

that being.....DUH ALCOHOL! Oh well, guess I'm knot as smert as ole

Ken Krap. Wonder if his middle name is Kramer? That would make his

initials KKK. Whoa DUDE!!!!!!! Very fitting, eh?

Now, I would like to impart some wisdom upon this group. Ya'll are a

bunch of intelligent people (granted, not as smert as me and Ken

Kramer Krap, but smert nonetheless).

Ya'll must stop referring to yourselves as " clean " . It pisses me off

when people say " I've been clean 5,432 days " . Saying that you are

clean implies that you were at one time " dirty " . This is not true.

(I read that somewhere and I totally agree) It also pisses me off

when people call themselves addict/alcoholic.

STOP IT, I SAY. By the power vested in me by the Supreme Higher

Power, Smarty , I demand ya'll will put a stop to this shit once

and for all. Anyone caught calling themselves, clean, addict or

alcoholic will incur the wrath of Smarty . And I must warn

ya'll, Smarty can be a real prick, especially if he's drunk.

In Ethylglucuronide , " Lorie " <saclorie@...> wrote:

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> http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf

> <http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf>

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> So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork,

service,

> and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got me DIRTY, not

> CLEAN...I'm confused again...

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> Madison, maybe I should contact Ken Krap for clarification?

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--- git yer little Eunuch ass back under the bridge. NOW, BOY!

In Ethylglucuronide , rrpmd@... wrote:

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you are showingrrpmd@... wrote: trying.....to...resist.....

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admirable self restraint...robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: you are showingrrpmd@... wrote: trying.....to...resist..... Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now.

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admirable self restraint...robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: you are showingrrpmd@... wrote: trying.....to...resist..... Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now.

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despite provocation...robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: admirable self restraint...robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: you are showingrrpmd@... wrote: trying.....to...resist..... Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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reach deep within and post something positive and surprise us all...regards,r.robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: despite provocation...robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: admirable self restraint...robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: you are showingrrpmd@... wrote: trying.....to...resist..... Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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It's very annoying I know, but its what the CDC recommends and it is somewhat evidence based. And regardless of whose stats you read, the vast majority of people who use the gel don't need urine monitoring( at least in terms of 100% abstinence from EtOH ). Its like those of us who are allegic to latex. Latex condoms are the best at preventing STD's but if you are allergic you have to settle for polyurethaneLorie <saclorie@...> wrote: http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork, service, and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got me DIRTY, not CLEAN...I'm confused again... Madison, maybe I should contact Ken Krap for clarification?

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Hi Ian,

My beef isn't really with the hand sanitizers. It's with the fact that I

don't know WHAT the cause of my positives was. If I were given a list of

1,000 items to avoid, I would do my best to do just that, given the

assurance that that would stop the positives. The unnecessary fear that

some of us are living with is incomprehensible to most people. It's a

crap shoot--Russian roulette.

http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf

> So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork,

service, and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got me

DIRTY, not CLEAN...I'm confused again...

> Madison, maybe I should contact Ken Krap for clarification?

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If you're not drinking, most people aren't that attractive anymore, so who needs condoms! I've solved the world's population problem -- EtG tests for everyone! Chris"Ian S. Wittenberg" <iwmd2000@...> wrote: It's very annoying I know, but its what the CDC recommends and it is somewhat evidence based. And regardless of whose stats you read, the vast majority of people who use the gel don't need urine monitoring( at least in terms of 100%

abstinence from EtOH ). Its like those of us who are allegic to latex. Latex condoms are the best at preventing STD's but if you are allergic you have to settle for polyurethaneLorie <saclorie > wrote: http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork, service, and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got me DIRTY, not CLEAN...I'm confused again... Madison, maybe I should contact Ken Krap for clarification? Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Point taken. I had a positive ETG, but I was able to ID at least 3 possible sources which I have been able to avoid. But I don't know for sure that they were the cause and I don't know what would happen if it happened again (and I was still sober, obviously).Lorie <saclorie@...> wrote: Hi Ian,My beef isn't really with the hand sanitizers. It's with the fact that Idon't know WHAT the cause of my positives was. If I were given a list of1,000 items to avoid, I would do my best to do just that, given

theassurance that that would stop the positives. The unnecessary fear thatsome of us are living with is incomprehensible to most people. It's acrap shoot--Russian roulette.http://www.health.state.mn.us/handhygiene/alcoholrubs.pdf> So here's the winning combination: sponsor, meetings, stepwork,service, and alcohol-based handrubs. But WAIT...That's what got meDIRTY, not CLEAN...I'm confused again...> Madison, maybe I should contact Ken Krap for clarification?>>>>>>> ---------------------------------> Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

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