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Here are two comments which ran in the WSJ regarding the article on

Etg:

Letters to the Editor

A Sober Look at Testing for Alcohol Use

451 words

12 September 2006

The Wall Street Journal

A21

English

(Copyright © 2006, Dow & Company, Inc.)

" A Test for Alcohol -- and Its Flaws " (page one, Aug. 12) creates the

false impression that EtG is an untested test sold by Northwest

Toxicology, which became part of Quest Diagnostics in 2005. That

isn't the case. Northwest Tox began offering EtG testing in March

2004 after carefully validating the test, using methods that have

been published in scientific literature.

In 2002, researchers in Sweden reported the development of a

relatively simple analytical procedure for EtG using liquid

chromatography/mass spectrometry. This data showed that EtG in urine

could be used as a target for a laboratory test to detect recent

alcohol intake, even after ethanol was no longer measurable in urine.

Based on requests from customers, Northwest Tox developed a procedure

for EtG with performance characteristics paralleling the sensitivity

expressed by the Swedish researchers. As part of its validation,

Northwest Tox performed a negative-agreement study where urine

samples from 1,500 alcohol-free volunteers were analyzed for EtG.

Included in this population were the small number of volunteers from

Northwest Tox's laboratory alluded to in your article. This study

confirmed that subjects who didn't consume alcohol wouldn't generate

positive results. Additional analytical studies customarily performed

by most workplace drug-testing laboratories were performed to

document the overall performance of our EtG testing method.

The EtG test is a useful tool. While it is a scientifically valid

test, like all laboratory tests, results must be interpreted by

qualified individuals who are able to determine what the results

might mean.

Lenox B. Abbott, Ph.D.

Director, Production Support Services

Quest Diagnostics Employer Solutions

Lyndhurst, N.J.

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I am appalled that programs around the country continue to use EtG

testing as the benchmark for sobriety when the doctor who originally

determined that it was the " gold standard " of sobriety testing has

backpedaled from his original findings.

If program administrators were held accountable for the decisions

they've made to revoke licenses since the EtG test was introduced as

a result of " innocent positive " test results, you better believe

there would be a class-action lawsuit because innocent people's lives

have been turned upside down as a result of these decisions. They

have lost their ability to work in the profession they love, the

ability to make money and have even had their names slandered.

Who can make the decision to pull the EtG test until further studies

have been conducted? Why hasn't it been done? Why are these programs

willing to let this test destroy people who have turned their lives

around to become productive members of society again?

Jan Severance

Long Beach, Calif.

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Hi Marci,

You made an excellent point about researching car seats and not

vaccinations....isn't it strange we worry so much about what we put

baby IN but not so much what we put INTO baby? A lot of my friends

were like that when they were having babies, worrying about which

pattern to go with, which highchair to get, what color stroller to

get...I certainly was alone in my quest to get answers about vaccines,

thank goodness for the internet and my father whom helped me

tremendously. My father was the one who told me not to vaccinate, he

made me promise I wouldn't, he also sent me to have my fillings taken

out and replaced, then helped me with the heavy-metal detox treatments

prior to getting pregnant. I am so thankful that he inspired me to

connect all the dots and taught me how to think for myself beyond all

the propaganda. He also bought my first subscription to " Mothering "

for me, my all-time favorite magazine. I buy a subscription now for

every expectant mother I know, that usually lights the fire!

Peace,

Kris

>

> I couldn't help myself and followed the link to read more of the

> comments on this board. It is to bad that the vax debate becomes so

> emotional, as soon as people start calling each other names, it doesn't

> matter what study you show and what side you are on, people are on the

> defense. I just had to share one comment that I laughed a bit at, a

> woman who was thrilled at the chance to give her SON the HPV vaccine,

> did she miss health class? Or does she really think he has a cervix?

> (note sarcasm) Also several people commented and asked, if the

> vaccines " work " as well as they are supposed to why are they afraid of

> our unvaxed kids? Not a single person responded to this, I think that

> says it all. It was also disturbing to read a pediatrician who said

> there are studies that show a baby's immune system could handle 10,000

> vaccines on the same day. And this would only be using .01 percent of

> the babies immune system. If this were truly the case, how in the

> world would the immune system (in his theory) be unable to deal with a

> case of the measles? He continued to say that it was more than safe to

> get your child vaxed even with a mild illness, fever, or diarhea?????

> That one made me sick. He ended with the classic, getting your baby

> immunized is the best thing that you can do. YUCK

> One post I liked said she wished she had researched vaccines as much as

> she had car seats, cribs, and high chairs. I echo these sentiments

> since I was ignorant and thought about car seats more than I even did

> vaccines.

> Marci

> <http://blogs. wsj.com/juggle/ 2008/03/21/ to-vaccinate- or-not-the-

> growing-debate/ ?mod=WSJBlog? mod=googlenews_ wsj>http://blogs.

> wsj.com/juggle/ 2008/03/21/ to-vaccinate- or-not-the- growing-debate/ ?

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Hi Kris, it is wonderful you have such a supportive father. I hope I can be as

helpful to my children as he has been to you. Many on this list have family who

oppose their choices. It is nice to hear different. And it inspires me to hope

my children feel the same way about my guidance when they are adults.

Fieldman

Re: WSJ Comments

I certainly was alone in my quest to get answers about vaccines,

thank goodness for the internet and my father whom helped me

tremendously. My father was the one who told me not to vaccinate, he

made me promise I wouldn't, he also sent me to have my fillings taken

out and replaced, then helped me with the heavy-metal detox treatments

prior to getting pregnant. I am so thankful that he inspired me to

connect all the dots and taught me how to think for myself beyond all

the propaganda. He also bought my first subscription to " Mothering "

for me, my all-time favorite magazine. I buy a subscription now for

every expectant mother I know, that usually lights the fire!

Peace,

Kris

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What a COOL dad Kris!

My mom is totally supportive of my decisions not to vax (my dad died three

weeks before my son was born), even though she had polio as a child and had

to overcome paralysis. She has what she believes is " Post Polio Syndrome "

today, and I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't that she's heavy metal toxic.

She was an HIV nurse for the State of New Mexico for years and was forced

to receive too many vaccinations to even count. I know she got flu shots

every year, too. They tend to monitor the vaccinations of HIV nurses closer

than any other nurse, I think.

Anyway, what a cool story. It's really nice to hear of supportive family

members out there. :)

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>

.....isn't it strange we worry so much about what we put

> baby IN but not so much what we put INTO baby? >

> Peace,

> Kris

>

This is something I try to drive home to young moms all the time.

You childproof your house, you buy the best carseats and you still

clean with toxic chemicals in your homes?? I think it comes down to

education (as do most things). Most people don't realize, though,

that their everyday cleaners cause respiratory damage and are

carcinogens.

Same with foods. These moms just don't understand that the

colorful, sugary delights that their kids craves are making them

sick and inattentive.

We must address it with love in our hearts, though, and not come

across as judgmental.

Sheri B.

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