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sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sadsuzanne@... wrote: yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that

ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer" -------------- Original message -------------- From: "sexybellykelly" <sexybellykelly > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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the agreement reads exactly as follows:

"avoid all products containing alcohol including over-the-counter medications (cough syrup), mouthwash, hygiene products, topical gels or medications, foods containing alcohol (e.g. vanilla extraxt, desserts),etc...."

There was no list attached and I am NOT about to ask my CM for one either. I did put down in bold lettes that I have gestational diabetes and test my glucose and take insulin throughout they day, so I use alcohol wipes for that...

The agreement I signed was only 2 pages, not the 45 page novel I signed when I entered the VRP a few years ago and this document was revised in june 2006, so I'm not sure if PA is going to use the etg test on me or not, but I'm not taking any chances and plan on reading every label of every food/beverage I consume. What a pain in the rear....

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yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer"

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ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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So, are you tellin me that the new contracts for PA now state you must abstain from using ANY product containing alcohol including hygiene products and household products??? HOW ABSURD is this getting??? I guess we should walk around with gass masks also! Joy <joyous1_1210@...> wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of

etg+?????very sadsuzannecomcast (DOT) net wrote: yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer" -------------- Original message -------------- From: "sexybellykelly"

<sexybellykelly > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment

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Let me add to my last post.....THAT can come from none other then the idiot Knipe!!!Joy <joyous1_1210@...> wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sadsuzannecomcast (DOT) net wrote: yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer" -------------- Original message -------------- From: "sexybellykelly" <sexybellykelly > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand

sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment

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Now let me guess here, Chris...You're being sarcastic??!!

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> did they supply you with a comprehensive list??

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> Re: they took that graph off fo the

firstlab " EtG guidance " thjng

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> yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain

from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and

household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I

have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that

ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an

article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial

infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the

headlines now " local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was

afraid to use hand sanitzer "

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> From: " sexybellykelly " sexybellykelly@...

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> ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being

> monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that

> their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody

> should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one

> in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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I am a health care professional, who will no longer use hand

sanitizer. The dispensers are located in each patients room, and the

utility rooms as well. They are all over the hospital that I work

in, and I am scared to death of testing positive. I definately miss

as much time at work as possible to avoid the possible inhallation

of the alcohol contained in the sanitizer. I am also afraid of the

alcohol swabs we use to draw blood, and start iv's. Suddenly I am

terrified of a career that I worked so hard to get to. It is

terribly unfair to all of us. Fortunately I am on the last leg of

my nightmare, I wish you all the very best.

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> sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the

article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health

professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????

very sad

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> suzanne@... wrote:

> yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain

from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and

household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware

of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because

of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There

was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence

of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I

can read the headlines now " local nurse spreads deadly infection

because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer "

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " sexybellykelly " <sexybellykelly@...>

> ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals

being

> monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that

> their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody

> should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved

one

> in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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Who me?? never!!

Really if they are now putting this out and putting it on the client why shouldn't they have to provide a list? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T!!!

Re: they took that graph off fo the

firstlab "EtG guidance" thjng

>

>

> yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain

from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and

household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I

have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that

ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an

article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial

infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the

headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was

afraid to use hand sanitzer"

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: "sexybellykelly" sexybellykelly@...

>

> ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being

> monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that

> their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody

> should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one

> in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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any other PA nurses get a updated contract to sign with the new ETOH stipulation in it??? N <nautiques5@...> wrote: Let me add to my last post.....THAT can come from none other then the idiot Knipe!!!Joy <joyous1_1210 > wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how

many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sadsuzannecomcast (DOT) net wrote: yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer" -------------- Original message -------------- From: "sexybellykelly" <sexybellykelly > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment

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This is F---king ridiculous - maybe they should give us a list of what we can use. I already saw on a link posted here a while ago a list of household products with alcohol in them - it's 10 pages long for christ sake!! N <nautiques5@...> wrote: So, are you tellin me that the new contracts for PA now state you must abstain from using ANY product containing alcohol including hygiene products and household products??? HOW ABSURD is this getting??? I guess we should

walk around with gass masks also! Joy <joyous1_1210 > wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sadsuzannecomcast (DOT) net wrote: yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking

spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer" -------------- Original message -------------- From: "sexybellykelly" <sexybellykelly > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment Sponsored LinkDon't quit your job - take classes online and earn your degree in 1 year. Start Today

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Who is this Knipe? I saw his name in the WSJ. Is he a

sobriety enforcer? And if he is, does he really believe what he

said about avoiding " all " exposure or is he just ignorant?

Does he have penis envy perhaps? Little man syndrome?

There has to be a reason he believes that using hand sanitizer or

putting gas in your car will lead you to death and destruction with

devil drink. Maybe he's just stupid, I don't know. That is

probably the explination given the fact that he sounds like a

typical government worker.

Anyway, have you ever received any justice since that article came

out? And where is Dr. Dan?

In Ethylglucuronide , N <nautiques5@...> wrote:

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> Let me add to my last post.....THAT can come from none other then

the idiot Knipe!!!

>

> Joy <joyous1_1210@...> wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am

guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought

the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer

use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sad

>

> suzanne@... wrote:

> yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to

obstain from using any product that contains etoh, including all

hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to

be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some

lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking

spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the

high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate

associated with it. I can read the headlines now " local nurse

spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer "

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " sexybellykelly " <sexybellykelly@...>

> ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals

being

> monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that

> their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody

> should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved

one

> in the hospital how they feel about this advice. Bastards.

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is the program manager - of our PA professional health monitoring / voluntary recovery programmadisonxyz2000 <madisonxyz2000@...> wrote: ---,Who is this Knipe? I saw his name in the WSJ. Is he a sobriety enforcer? And if he is, does he really believe what he said about avoiding "all" exposure or is he just ignorant?Does he have penis envy perhaps? Little man syndrome? There has to be a reason he believes that using hand sanitizer or putting gas in your car will lead you to death

and destruction with devil drink. Maybe he's just stupid, I don't know. That is probably the explination given the fact that he sounds like a typical government worker.Anyway, have you ever received any justice since that article came out? And where is Dr. Dan?In Ethylglucuronide , N <nautiques5@...> wrote:>> Let me add to my last post.....THAT can come from none other then the idiot Knipe!!!> > Joy <joyous1_1210@...> wrote: sandrasuzanne: i am guessing that it was the pgh paper, i saw the article and thought the same thing!!!I wonder how many health professionals no longer use the hand sanitizer for fear of etg+?????very sad> > suzanne@... wrote: > yup, my I agreement that i just signed states that i am to obstain from using any product that

contains etoh, including all hygiene and household products. Is it SD alcohol 40 that I need to be aware of? I have already thrown out my hairspray and some lotions because of that ingredient. I even found it in PAM cooking spray. There was just an article in our newspaper yesterday of the high incidence of nosocomial infections and the death rate associated with it. I can read the headlines now"local nurse spreads deadly infection because she was afraid to use hand sanitzer"> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "sexybellykelly" <sexybellykelly@...> > ohh, and I love how they say that the medical professionals being > monitered should abstain from using hand sanitizer. They say that > their concern lies with protecting the general public. Somebody > should ask the general public who has an immunocompromised loved one > in the hospital how

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> is the program manager - of our PA professional health

monitoring / voluntary recovery program

You're joking, right? " Voluntary recovery " ? Did you " volunteer " to

scrutinize the labels of every single product you encounter with a

magnifying glass? And, people, those labels are *not* kind to aging

eyes! I had to stand under a really bright light in the health food

store and squint like a demon at the ingredients on a bottle of body

lotion before I spotted the " SD 40 " , and returned it to the shelf.

Is Orwell somehow involved in your monitoring program?