Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 In a message dated 3/29/2002 9:56:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, KVanRyzin@... writes: > I don't attend church because I can't sit there with through the whole > thing. He can make it if I really work at it but I " m exhausted by the end. > When I got married I was managing the group home for developmentally > disabled > kids. They all attended my wedding. Well, one just walked the halls yelling > " no mama " . One of the girls giggled the whole time, another whispered the > pledge of Allegiance over and over. The oldest of the boys just glared at > my > husband the whole time. Hi Karyn, I would have loved to be at your wedding! LOL I do bring Zeb to church and would you believe he loves it. He actually started behaving a few years ago. I am so proud of him. I took him to church on Easter when he was two. A older man was sitting in front of us and Zeb was a little noisey but not too bad for two. The man turned around and started quietly yelling at me to get him out of church that he didn't belong there. My FIL stepped into the aisle and I thought they were going to duke it out right there. My DH grabbed his dad and told the man he was a child of god and to shut up. I was an Easter that I won't forget. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 In a message dated 3/29/02 11:56:12 PM Central Standard Time, charlyne1121@... writes: > Hi Karyn, > I would have loved to be at your wedding! LOL I do bring Zeb to church and > would you believe he loves it. He actually started behaving a few years > ago. > I am so proud of him. I took him to church on Easter when he was two. A > older > man was sitting in front of us and Zeb was a little noisey but not too bad > for two. The man turned around and started quietly yelling at me to get him > > out of church that he didn't belong there. My FIL stepped into the aisle > and > I thought they were going to duke it out right there. My DH grabbed his dad > > and told the man he was a child of god and to shut up. I was an Easter that > I > won't forget. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? > > > When was about Zeb's age I took him to church with my sister and niece. He got antsy in the middle of the sermon so we got up to quietly exit. Well, there was a piano sitting just inside the door of the sanctuary. You guessed it, had to play a little tune for everyone. There are several kids with significant disabilities that attend that church so everyone just laughed but I wanted to crawl under the carpet. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 In a message dated 3/30/2002 9:27:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, KVanRyzin@... writes: > There are several kids with significant disabilities that attend that church > so everyone just laughed but I wanted to crawl under the carpet. Karyn, too funny! LOL Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 Speaking of church. Their considering about putting a special ed Sunday School class, at the church where I attendd. --- KVanRyzin@... wrote: > In a message dated 3/29/02 7:56:52 AM Central > Standard Time, duffey48@... > writes: > > > > > > > (I'm in the gym). DH, > > > who doesn't go to church, will bring PB to the > 10:30 Mass and see how if > > > goes. He hasn't made it through a whole Mass > for several years now. But > > > we always give it a try. I'm envious of those > of you whose darlin's can > > > last the whole way through a service, and try > and participate. I got > > over > > > feeling bad about PB not managing to stay. We > just do what we can, say > > > prayers at home, and hope that with maturity > will come an ability to sit > > > for even 30 minutes. > > > > Oh MB, I SO relate!!!!!!!! We keep trying to > bring Maddie to Mass. > > Typically, Duff goes to the 10 (he's a eucharistic > minister) and then I > > take > > n and Allie ( is down in DC at school > and Joe lives on his own) > > to > > the 11:15, but we much prefer to go as a family. > On the holidays, we do > > > > take her and suffer through it. Mostly Duff > takes the beating (she's > > squirming and trying to escape under the pews the > whole time). I read > > recently in a newsletter some recommendations on > helping your child with > > autism adapt to going to church. They said go > often to the church and > > spend > > as much time there as possible letting your child > run around, get > > acclimated > > when no one is there. I plan on trying this with > Maddie. You're > > supposed > > to try it often, but I just read this, so Duff and > I will try to go over > > sometime today and tomorrow with her. > > > > <<Hope those of you celebrating Passover had a > very blessed one, and the > > same > > to those observing Holy Week and Easter.>> > > > > Ditto!!! > > Good luck with your playing MB. > > Donna > > > > > > I don't attend church because I can't sit there with > through the whole > thing. He can make it if I really work at it but I " m > exhausted by the end. > When I got married I was managing the group home for > developmentally disabled > kids. They all attended my wedding. Well, one just > walked the halls yelling > " no mama " . One of the girls giggled the whole time, > another whispered the > pledge of Allegiance over and over. The oldest of > the boys just glared at my > husband the whole time. > > Karyn > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Helen, Hey There, I chatted with Jessi yesterday over . She is now back on tube feedings , ten hours a day, I think. Her animals have been keeping her busy as well, her ducky, had seizures, so not they are having to watch that, as well. We all are fine here, Last day of school. April was sad yesterday, hates to tell her teachers good bye, it has been a great year, for sure. I will bake cupcakes in a bit for their end of school party this afternoon. Amber is doing great, did I tell you about her promotion?? Well, that is interesting that you say my mail did not come thru, my best friend has been having the same trouble for the last two weeks, we were thinking it was her end, but I have been getting other mail,, try sending me somethig again and let me know when you do, ok?? Carol, how are you?? How is your arm doing?? Anne, how are things with you?? Any news on the homefrot?? Friends, Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 Dear , I live with my boyfriend (he has AS) and I can relate to what you say about feeling alone. We don't have any family or friends here and it is a scary feeling. If it makes you feel any better, you can write and chat with me any time you like, if it makes you feel more connected. San Francisco is a big city and I would imagine that there are support groups there for people with AS and Reiter's. I know there is one here somewhere, but Bill doesn't want to go. We are in San Diego. Maybe if you contacted your chapter of the Arthritis association, they would know of one. The people on this list are wonderful and very caring, so you're never alone as far as having your condition is concerned. We're all in this together and I know that I would do whatever I could to help you, even though we have never met. Take care and please write to me if you care to. (Oh, by the way, Bill is 62 and I am 51.) Lana At 07:37 PM 9/27/02 +0000, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I've had Reiter's for about 10 years. The last 4 have been a slow >decline in my disease. I haver several other cronic diseases. I'm >55 yo and went on state disability in late August. My latest Rheum. >vixit was very thourugh and he was clear that working on my feet >ever, >was not going to be possible. >I applied for Social Security and that is progressing. >I'm on pain releivers and methrotrexate. >One of the things that seems to have helped these last few weeks is >prayer and meditation. For peace of mind and acceptence. >I live in San Francisco and don't know where I'd be without the >public >health system. >I want to just throw this out there because I feel so alone. >Any comments would be appreciated either here or at my address. >Thanks for reading this. > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 > I want to just throw this out there because I feel so alone. > > Thanks for reading this. > > Hi One thing that is for sure, is that you are not alone. I went through the same thing over 20 years ago and I also found that prayer and meditation has helped me through some of the toughest times. One weird thing happened when I moved to this little town, population 350, two of the people out here also have AS. We have our own little support group. Hang in there Blessings +Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 19/09/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, wrote: > I want to just throw this out there because I feel so alone. don't feel alone anymore. You have found the most caring group on the net.. well one of two. I am in a sjogren's group that is just super. My sis who has AS told me about this group and I " m SO GLAD she did. Anyway..just tell us how you feel...share your joys and frustrations. We are always here. You are NOT alone anyomre!!!!!! BIG HUGS! Liz ~~~ " Mistakes are the portals of discovery. " -- Joyce ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EMAIL: juliette@... **ICQ 49746198** MSN & AIM LizKP1952** PERSONAL HOMEPAGE PAGE http://members.tripod.com/~LizK ADDult HOME PAGE: http://members.tripod.com/~LizK/addult.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Ray I hear ya! Hang in there! You are doing the best you can and that counts for a lot! K Adrienne's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 , You are not alone. That is our motto. What you are feeling, what you are going through, is a journey that many of us are on or are already well down the road of. It is damaging to one's ego to realize that the pain and disability of these disorders prevent you from working, from having a true career, from even engaging in much of life that other's take for granted. We had a family and friend gathering Sunday to honor our oldest grandchild (age 11) on her baptism. I worked all week to get the house and yard ready, but left plenty of things undone. Little or no help from family, just the assumption that Dad would do it all. I can't. Monday meant taking six hours out of my life to drive my youngest child to a choral rehearsal about 60 miles away. Of course, as usual, the interstate was blocked down from three lanes to one lane. Going the first 10 miles took 40 minutes. We were late. Same bottle neck coming home. I walked in the door, checked my messages, and went to bed. I laid there in sheer exhaustion for the next three hours. My wife and I had a blow-out Sunday evening after getting home from church. Someone had spilled a gallon of lemonade on the floor. My wife found it and told me about it. I cleaned up the floor, but then discovered that the lemonade was on the cabinet fronts, in the cabinets, on the drawer fronts, in the drawers, under the refrigerator, all over the counter, etc. I complained and asked who would do this without cleaning it up. My wife told me to " deal with it. " I protested telling her that it was unfair to leave the mess for me to clean up by myself and that she was being very unkind and inconsiderate to tell me to quit disturbing her with my complaints. I again told her that she was out of line in making me feel bad because someone else had left a mess. She began to berate me so I took my glass of ice tea and threw it at her. Real grown up. But something just snapped. My point was that if she had been at her mother's home or anyone else's and discovered this mess she would have cleaned it up, or at least have helped clean it up in a cheerful and pleasant and kind manner. But she didn't do that with me. She told me the mess was there and fully expected me to clean it up. We don't have time to talk. She's at work, I'm at home. By the time she walks in the door, I've had it physically and have had to lay down. After resting a couple of hours I might be able to get up and do a little work again, but by then, she's ready to go to bed. Our schedules just don't match. I had to stop working professionally due to the pain and inflammation along with the fatigue it caused. Apparently I traded one set of impossible expectations for another set of impossible expectations at home. I don't know if it was a fair trade. If I weren't at home all the time with my youngest daughter and my grandchildren perhaps I wouldn't be the one expected to do all the housework. On days when I'm too ill to do it, nothing is done. The sink fills up, the laundry overflows, the house looks like a wreck. And no one else seems to care...or care about how much work it causes me. That's what hurts the most. That no one cares about how much pain I have to endure to get it done. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Ray: Boy,do I understand where you are coming from. There's nothing worse than feeling like your family is taking advantage of you. As hard as they try to understand, they just can't because they don't live this disease day to day. I've had times when all I can do is manage to take care of myself, and my family (both college kids and my husband) come home and expect me to take care of them as well. After all, they reason, I've had the whole day to myself. Sometimes it makes me feel like I'd like to go on strike, but then I'd probably have to clean that up as well. Fall can be so stressful, the kids start classes, the days get shorter and everyone is stressed with too much to do and not enough time to do it. All you can do is keep your chin up and remember how much you love your family. Some days I have to remind myself over and over Patti Re: This and that , You are not alone. That is our motto. What you are feeling, what you are going through, is a journey that many of us are on or are already well down the road of. It is damaging to one's ego to realize that the pain and disability of these disorders prevent you from working, from having a true career, from even engaging in much of life that other's take for granted. We had a family and friend gathering Sunday to honor our oldest grandchild (age 11) on her baptism. I worked all week to get the house and yard ready, but left plenty of things undone. Little or no help from family, just the assumption that Dad would do it all. I can't. Monday meant taking six hours out of my life to drive my youngest child to a choral rehearsal about 60 miles away. Of course, as usual, the interstate was blocked down from three lanes to one lane. Going the first 10 miles took 40 minutes. We were late. Same bottle neck coming home. I walked in the door, checked my messages, and went to bed. I laid there in sheer exhaustion for the next three hours. My wife and I had a blow-out Sunday evening after getting home from church. Someone had spilled a gallon of lemonade on the floor. My wife found it and told me about it. I cleaned up the floor, but then discovered that the lemonade was on the cabinet fronts, in the cabinets, on the drawer fronts, in the drawers, under the refrigerator, all over the counter, etc. I complained and asked who would do this without cleaning it up. My wife told me to " deal with it. " I protested telling her that it was unfair to leave the mess for me to clean up by myself and that she was being very unkind and inconsiderate to tell me to quit disturbing her with my complaints. I again told her that she was out of line in making me feel bad because someone else had left a mess. She began to berate me so I took my glass of ice tea and threw it at her. Real grown up. But something just snapped. My point was that if she had been at her mother's home or anyone else's and discovered this mess she would have cleaned it up, or at least have helped clean it up in a cheerful and pleasant and kind manner. But she didn't do that with me. She told me the mess was there and fully expected me to clean it up. We don't have time to talk. She's at work, I'm at home. By the time she walks in the door, I've had it physically and have had to lay down. After resting a couple of hours I might be able to get up and do a little work again, but by then, she's ready to go to bed. Our schedules just don't match. I had to stop working professionally due to the pain and inflammation along with the fatigue it caused. Apparently I traded one set of impossible expectations for another set of impossible expectations at home. I don't know if it was a fair trade. If I weren't at home all the time with my youngest daughter and my grandchildren perhaps I wouldn't be the one expected to do all the housework. On days when I'm too ill to do it, nothing is done. The sink fills up, the laundry overflows, the house looks like a wreck. And no one else seems to care...or care about how much work it causes me. That's what hurts the most. That no one cares about how much pain I have to endure to get it done. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Beth, I enjoyed your narrative style dialogue. I think we can all relate to what you are thinking in regards to the stroller. As much as I hate IEP's I think they should be done 2x a year. Each Fall we get a new team and they always seem to have trouble implementing other team members goals. Just my thoughts. At least next year Rochelle will have same team which is good and bad. Thanks for the updates on Ben. My son didn't even know his real name was until he was about six. We had always called him Danny. LOL Diane (mom to Rochelle 6-ds/asd/celiac and Danny) > > From: Beth <paul.3@...> > Date: 2003/05/16 Fri PM 09:57:58 EDT > > Subject: This and that > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 In a message dated 5/16/2003 9:59:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, paul.3@... writes: > Donna, the news about Maddie sounds very promising! Very! And it is so > important to " start low and go slow " with some of these meds. You don't > want a different kid on your hands- just a calmer one, and it sounds like > you are seeing some nice smooth kinds of changes. Wonderful! Exactly MB!! That really was my biggest fear with starting meds...I didn't want her to lose her personality...well, so far, she's still Miss cutie pie!! <<Is the buspar to address Miss M's anxiety in new situations?>> Yes, and with social situations which are the things that send her into meltdowns. Jen babysat her yesterday and took her to the zoo....she said that Maddie had two meltdowns in the areas where it was crowded with people, but that it wasn't near as bad as they usually are. I am SUPER impressed with the nickname thing MB!!!! Way cool that PB (Pete) can get that it's HIM!!!!! ;-) And I know what you mean about the stroller, but I've resigned myself to using it.....it makes all the difference in her stress level which enables me to get her to doctor's offices, stores and even just going out for a stroll in our city street. Along with feeling safe for her and me, comes peace!! We work on the walking in her IEP and ONLY when I have someone BIGGER and STRONGER than me to go along, as I can't contain her from running in the street by myself. Here on our front, we're dealing with ESY issues for the first time ever. The city wants to take them away....they tried, but the timeline was illegal so we're safe for this summer. But we meet on the 28th of May to, as they say, " discuss what an ESY program would look like " ...goofballs...ILLEGAL again!!!! Maddie's ESY program has to LEGALLY look like it's HERS, as in *I*EP. Sheesh!! SO, off to battle we go!!!! Keep you posted, and thanks for the update MB!! I love when you give them...;-) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:23:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes: > Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. You mean 1 gram right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hello Jemmi - <<<, I am in admiration that you have this down to a science.>>> There is nothing to it. The key is to ALWAYS sticking to the basics. What does it mean for an O? Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. No matter what happens, this is what you want to have as goal #1 every day. Next is to eat your servings of green veggies with all this protein. Add beneficial fat to all your meals. Go easy with fruits. Your last meal needs to be pretty small. Drink at least half of your size. 200lb person = 100oz of water, drinking the most amount first thing in the morning. Your bladder is empty. Do some strenuous exercise every day. (a must for Os). There is a lot more I could advise here but I type slow and have many other important things to do for business. I feel it's a good start to follow for you. http://foodforyourbloodn.goemerchant7.com <http://foodforyourbloodn.goemerchant7.com/> love This and That First, I want to thank those of you who responded to my post: " All swirled up, need encouragement. " Katchy and , I am in admiration that you have this down to a science. I am not yet at that place; and honestly, I don't know if I ever will be. I'm nearly 51 now, and I've been following some sort of eating program, off and on, since I was about 15. You name it, I've probably been on it. But not knowing that my body could not handle certain foods, from the Blood Type aspect as well as the carbohydrate aspect, I just kept trying and trying. Having a little bit of success, and always ending up gaining what I lost, plus more, until I finally topped out at 256 lbs. on my short frame of 5'3 " . Beginning with Dr. Abravanel's Body Type program, I managed to get down to 232 lbs. Then I began the Dr. D'Adamo's Blood Type program, but switched to Dr. Atkin's program. On the Atkins program, I managed to get down to 214 lbs. quite easily, but felt worried the entire time because I was eating things that the Blood Type said are Avoids (dairy and bacon). Finally, I've just stopped everything, and have gained back 8-10 lbs. I want to begin a program again, and my mind tells me it should be the Blood Type as it goes along with my blood type, not just a standard High-Protein, Low-Carb program, but I am worried about the fruit, fruit juices, and grains. But the thought of eating only protein, veggies, and fats endlessly seems too difficult. Plus, I have recently read posts by two people talking about onions, and I see that even within the Type O foods, there are variations and exceptions, which undermines my confidence, because I do not know which things I truly can and cannot eat. I also saw postings about sleep patterns for O's, and I can tell you that the book by Dr. Abravanel was helpful and fascinating to me. I found out what body type I am, and now I understand more why I am the way I am. And I am a dominant Thyroid type, with a secondary Gonadal type. Thyroid types are the ones who " come alive " at night, and so most likely whoever said that in these posts is probably a dominant Thyroid. And also according to this book, I also understand my emotions more, as your dominant gland has something to do with that as well. Women have four types: Adrenal, Gonadal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. Men have three types: Adrenal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. I could tell instantly what dominant type I was by the pictures in his book. But when I came across the Blood Type book, I also knew that there was great value to be learned here as well. So, I'm trying to piece it all together; realizing that some of my difficulties are due to having developed a diet mentality from all the many years of dieting, and not feeling free to just eat what I like, but rather, what some program tells me I " should " eat. I become mentally fatigued, my emotions take a nosedive as I become more and more discouraged until I simply shut down. That's where I am right now. I feel that the Blood Type program is the correct one, but I don't know how to trust it completely until I know what I can and cannot tolerate. As I have said in previous posts, I eat something they say is HB, and I got sick. Then I ate something which was not HB, and I was fine. The confusion causes indecisiveness. Interestingly, the Body Type program also says that as a dominant Thyroid Type, I need protein, veggies, and fats at each meal, with a limited amount of carbs for the day. It also specifies a particular tea which supports your dominant gland (mine being Raspberry Leaf). I can see putting these two programs together as they are so compatible, but I think what I must do is find a way to get actual food allergy testing so I can know which foods among the Blood Type foods I can really eat with no problem. It seems odd that I can eat so many Avoids and feel fine. I need to find out my Secretor or Non- Secretor status as well. So, I'm gearing up to begin again as soon as my mind and emotions feel ready. I want to prevent any more weight gain and loss of good health. Thank you, and take care! Jemmi *_* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Yes, sorry Re: This and That In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:23:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes: > Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. You mean 1 gram right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 **Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight** Hi , What does that mean? Thanks, Coryn This and That First, I want to thank those of you who responded to my post: " All swirled up, need encouragement. " Katchy and , I am in admiration that you have this down to a science. I am not yet at that place; and honestly, I don't know if I ever will be. I'm nearly 51 now, and I've been following some sort of eating program, off and on, since I was about 15. You name it, I've probably been on it. But not knowing that my body could not handle certain foods, from the Blood Type aspect as well as the carbohydrate aspect, I just kept trying and trying. Having a little bit of success, and always ending up gaining what I lost, plus more, until I finally topped out at 256 lbs. on my short frame of 5'3 " . Beginning with Dr. Abravanel's Body Type program, I managed to get down to 232 lbs. Then I began the Dr. D'Adamo's Blood Type program, but switched to Dr. Atkin's program. On the Atkins program, I managed to get down to 214 lbs. quite easily, but felt worried the entire time because I was eating things that the Blood Type said are Avoids (dairy and bacon). Finally, I've just stopped everything, and have gained back 8-10 lbs. I want to begin a program again, and my mind tells me it should be the Blood Type as it goes along with my blood type, not just a standard High-Protein, Low-Carb program, but I am worried about the fruit, fruit juices, and grains. But the thought of eating only protein, veggies, and fats endlessly seems too difficult. Plus, I have recently read posts by two people talking about onions, and I see that even within the Type O foods, there are variations and exceptions, which undermines my confidence, because I do not know which things I truly can and cannot eat. I also saw postings about sleep patterns for O's, and I can tell you that the book by Dr. Abravanel was helpful and fascinating to me. I found out what body type I am, and now I understand more why I am the way I am. And I am a dominant Thyroid type, with a secondary Gonadal type. Thyroid types are the ones who " come alive " at night, and so most likely whoever said that in these posts is probably a dominant Thyroid. And also according to this book, I also understand my emotions more, as your dominant gland has something to do with that as well. Women have four types: Adrenal, Gonadal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. Men have three types: Adrenal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. I could tell instantly what dominant type I was by the pictures in his book. But when I came across the Blood Type book, I also knew that there was great value to be learned here as well. So, I'm trying to piece it all together; realizing that some of my difficulties are due to having developed a diet mentality from all the many years of dieting, and not feeling free to just eat what I like, but rather, what some program tells me I " should " eat. I become mentally fatigued, my emotions take a nosedive as I become more and more discouraged until I simply shut down. That's where I am right now. I feel that the Blood Type program is the correct one, but I don't know how to trust it completely until I know what I can and cannot tolerate. As I have said in previous posts, I eat something they say is HB, and I got sick. Then I ate something which was not HB, and I was fine. The confusion causes indecisiveness. Interestingly, the Body Type program also says that as a dominant Thyroid Type, I need protein, veggies, and fats at each meal, with a limited amount of carbs for the day. It also specifies a particular tea which supports your dominant gland (mine being Raspberry Leaf). I can see putting these two programs together as they are so compatible, but I think what I must do is find a way to get actual food allergy testing so I can know which foods among the Blood Type foods I can really eat with no problem. It seems odd that I can eat so many Avoids and feel fine. I need to find out my Secretor or Non- Secretor status as well. So, I'm gearing up to begin again as soon as my mind and emotions feel ready. I want to prevent any more weight gain and loss of good health. Thank you, and take care! Jemmi *_* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hi, Jemmi! Thanks for your post explaining your diet history. It does get confusing when you try diet after diet, each one conflicting with the last one, and nothing seems to work. I am a lot like you. I got started with Dr. Abravenal, too, and I also am a Thyroid/Gonadal type. I actually look more Gonadal, but I would never make it on fruit for breakfast. Gotta have that Thyroid protein. Not eggs every morning, though. LOL. I very definitely have a Hunter-Gatherer metabolism, complete with the hypoglycemic pattern. That is my basic diet, and I do avoid the Type O Avoids. I have a lot of food intolerances, that add up to my following the Paleolithic Diet too--no dairy, grains, legumes, starchy tubers. For the most part, I can't eat those foods anyway, and I don't make a religion of it. Your confusion about what foods are good for you reminded me of a post I sent to this group in August. I have copied below the parts I think might help you: If you are interested in eating for your health, go to this site and print the form, Xerox off a bunch of them, and use them after every meal. The idea is that if you are eating correctly for your body, you will feel good, not be overeating, craving the " wrong " foods, etc. http://www.mercola.com/forms/mtt_table.htm This page explains the concept and how to use the form: http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm No matter how you dice it, I am a strong Protein type. Good thing, because I would never make it out the door with the low energy a vegetarian diet gives me. ; )))) Having a food chart like Dr. Mercola's is very helpful to me because I can track very specific results from my meals. I had not thought of some of his criteria, and I have some he has not included--some foods give me eye floaters or blur or shorten my vision. Pulse rate and pH's are other signs you can keep track of. Just list them on the page (before you Xerox it-LOL). I hope this will be helpful to those of us who want to individualize our Blood Type diets. I almost always avoid the Avoids because my health is dicey, and I want my little soldiers to fight the real battle and not give them unnecessary work to do! To your good health, Jane Tucson, AZ USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I was trying to say 1 gr Re: This and That **Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight** Hi , What does that mean? Thanks, Coryn This and That First, I want to thank those of you who responded to my post: " All swirled up, need encouragement. " Katchy and , I am in admiration that you have this down to a science. I am not yet at that place; and honestly, I don't know if I ever will be. I'm nearly 51 now, and I've been following some sort of eating program, off and on, since I was about 15. You name it, I've probably been on it. But not knowing that my body could not handle certain foods, from the Blood Type aspect as well as the carbohydrate aspect, I just kept trying and trying. Having a little bit of success, and always ending up gaining what I lost, plus more, until I finally topped out at 256 lbs. on my short frame of 5'3 " . Beginning with Dr. Abravanel's Body Type program, I managed to get down to 232 lbs. Then I began the Dr. D'Adamo's Blood Type program, but switched to Dr. Atkin's program. On the Atkins program, I managed to get down to 214 lbs. quite easily, but felt worried the entire time because I was eating things that the Blood Type said are Avoids (dairy and bacon). Finally, I've just stopped everything, and have gained back 8-10 lbs. I want to begin a program again, and my mind tells me it should be the Blood Type as it goes along with my blood type, not just a standard High-Protein, Low-Carb program, but I am worried about the fruit, fruit juices, and grains. But the thought of eating only protein, veggies, and fats endlessly seems too difficult. Plus, I have recently read posts by two people talking about onions, and I see that even within the Type O foods, there are variations and exceptions, which undermines my confidence, because I do not know which things I truly can and cannot eat. I also saw postings about sleep patterns for O's, and I can tell you that the book by Dr. Abravanel was helpful and fascinating to me. I found out what body type I am, and now I understand more why I am the way I am. And I am a dominant Thyroid type, with a secondary Gonadal type. Thyroid types are the ones who " come alive " at night, and so most likely whoever said that in these posts is probably a dominant Thyroid. And also according to this book, I also understand my emotions more, as your dominant gland has something to do with that as well. Women have four types: Adrenal, Gonadal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. Men have three types: Adrenal, Pituitary, and Thyroid. I could tell instantly what dominant type I was by the pictures in his book. But when I came across the Blood Type book, I also knew that there was great value to be learned here as well. So, I'm trying to piece it all together; realizing that some of my difficulties are due to having developed a diet mentality from all the many years of dieting, and not feeling free to just eat what I like, but rather, what some program tells me I " should " eat. I become mentally fatigued, my emotions take a nosedive as I become more and more discouraged until I simply shut down. That's where I am right now. I feel that the Blood Type program is the correct one, but I don't know how to trust it completely until I know what I can and cannot tolerate. As I have said in previous posts, I eat something they say is HB, and I got sick. Then I ate something which was not HB, and I was fine. The confusion causes indecisiveness. Interestingly, the Body Type program also says that as a dominant Thyroid Type, I need protein, veggies, and fats at each meal, with a limited amount of carbs for the day. It also specifies a particular tea which supports your dominant gland (mine being Raspberry Leaf). I can see putting these two programs together as they are so compatible, but I think what I must do is find a way to get actual food allergy testing so I can know which foods among the Blood Type foods I can really eat with no problem. It seems odd that I can eat so many Avoids and feel fine. I need to find out my Secretor or Non- Secretor status as well. So, I'm gearing up to begin again as soon as my mind and emotions feel ready. I want to prevent any more weight gain and loss of good health. Thank you, and take care! Jemmi *_* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I hope so...that side of beef was looking a little much for dinner! Re: This and That In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:23:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes: > Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. You mean 1 gram right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Jane Thanks for these again. Most helpful I think. Jane O from Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Jemmi, I believe that I understand your confusion--but I can only offer you my humble opinion because as you know everything must be customized for each person. With regards to personal food intolerances, last month I had a sophisticated and expensive done by the Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab. The test is $144 for 88 foods, and I added on 21 additional food for $31.50. If you are interested you should consult your physician regarding " Food Anti-body Assessment " (this is the ELISA blood test and covers immediate food allergies and delayed food intolerances). What this told me was that I was very intolerant to rice and a little intolerant to cow's milk--I tested fine on beans, wheat, and other things that are not supposed to be good for O's. Those scientific results make more sense than the muscle testing that I had done the year before (lucky my acupuncturist did it for free). Perhaps the muscle testing for food sensitive makes sense for some people, but it helped me little. But the blood testing only goes so far--I was sure that I would show up with an intolerance to soy (because I certainly feel it) but nothing showed up. My body tells me things that the food intolerance test and the BTD do not. The blood test cannot tell you how the lining of your gut will react--which can be effected by Candida and Leaky Gut issues (for some people NOT everyone). So for me to make a plan that works it truly does take combining different theories and methods. I do not feel guilty for combining theories and methods--because no one has the monopoly on knowledge of the human body and all of its processes. The key is to stick with things for long enough though--so that you can truly assess how your body is handling your new approach. When I have tried something for 4-6 months and it doesn't seem to be working I take a closer look to make sure that I am really doing what I set out to do. This doesn't mean completely changing your approach for the latest fad diet, but it can mean tightening up your plan and paying extremely close attention to how everything you put in your mouth impacts your health. Let me just say that this is all very hard, but you know that it is not beyond any of us. If anyone says that living a healthy life is no work at all then you have just got to wonder about them! We are our bodies best friend and nothing is too good for our best friend. I understand losing confidence in different approaches and even in you own body (goodness, the body certainly changes with time!), all you can do is your best right now--and I believe that you have all the tools that you need. All you need you already have--but a few food tests can help clarify the picture if you feel that you really need them. Don't pay money for tests that you don't really need though just because others have. I would start very simple--meat, beneficial & neutral non-starchy veggies, & fat (this is basically the Paleo diet with no fruit). If you feel bad food reactions then look to the veggies or type of fat (is it a nut that could be causing a problem?). My naturopath had me do this--if I saw no reaction after 4 days then I could introduce another veggie group or fat. The aim of this is to find something that will be your very foundation--I know that this type of personal food testing is restrictive (that is why many choose the blood test--I did both), but it will serve greater purpose later on. Remember--even difficult does not last forever-- these things are a means to an end! I find very few problems on a Paleo diet with BTD food choices as long as I control fruit. I know that you want fruit--but do you want it more than body knowledge and results that this simple test can give you? I don't think so. You suspect that you might be a non-secretor--well, I am one. If you look at the recommendations it says 0-3 servings of beans & legumes weekly, 0-3 servings of grains & starches weekly, and 1-3 servings of fruit a day. The key to look at is 0, that is the beginning of the range--meaning that you might do better without that stuff all together depending on your circumstances. You came off of Atkins and it might seem like too many choices now--but if I were you I wouldn't get my carbs from any beans or grains--but from tasty colorful veggies and maybe one piece of fruit daily (although not if it produces digestive issues--also don't combine this with any meat). Right now you are trying to improve your health and lose weight--but once you get to a better body weight for you then it will be okay to add in fruit (or more if you are already eating one piece), and the 0- 3 servings of bean & grains weekly (coming from Atkin's think " Maintenance Life Plan " ). Your approach should be determined by your goals, that is what you did when you were on Atkins. You gave up complex and simple sugars to see results--and you would do well to continue in that same vein, but with some healthier food choices (no pork & the right veggies) and no dairy (which I'm sure stalled my Atkins progress years ago!). Just remember that just because something is allowed in the BTD doesn't mean that it is for you given your current goal--you don't have to eat it just because you can. Also remember what D'Adamo and many other say about skipping meals--it is terrible for your metabolism and is be counterproductive. Personally it has been hard for me to go from eating 2-3 decent sized meals a day to 5 smaller meals spread out not more than 4 hours apart--but I know that this is what my body needs in order to be healthier. Eating more often kicks up your metabolism- -it is very good tool! I know deep down that exercise makes all the difference in the world--physically, mentally, and spiritually. A cheap and easy way to get starting is by buying a $25 mini-trampoline from Target, Kmart, GI Joes' Sports or wherever (also known as a rebounder) and to just bounce up and down on it for 10 minutes. Work your way up to 40 minutes (take 3 months to do that if you need to) and you will feel much better and your lymphatic system will be so happy! There is very little impact to the body (80% less when running on it then with street running) and my sister who is 240 lbs loves it. I use one too because I can't afford a gym membership--I can do it whenever I want and I have never seen an injury. I think that it really complements a weight training program. I am short like you and tend to be muscular but too round in the middle--I find that this combination works well. I hope that you can get past the " too difficult " issue--because what is really too difficult is putting your body through the back and forth thing (I ought to know--I seem to fall off the wagon every 4 years when a crisis hits me hard!). It really is much easier to stick with one thing for a while and know that you can be less restrictive later on after you have achieved your goals. I not talking about less restrictive being a free for all (certainly not if you want good health & to keep your results)--but the strictest part of a weightloss & health program doesn't have to go on forever if you are diligent. Short term sacrifices (could be some or all fruit, and mostly likely all grain & legumes) could mean greater health in the end--it is worth the sacrifice and the commitment--this is the only body you have. When I am struggling it helps me to reframe my thinking from " this is so hard and this food is boring & always the same " to " this is a challenge and every bite of this wonderful food brings me closer to better health and greater fat loss " (yes, I do like Tony Robbins!). I don't think that your greatest challenge is the food--I think it is how you see the process--don't tell yourself that it is draining, you are working on your body for life--day by day. I really relate to you and this is just me, a regular person, suggesting to you that you stop telling yourself that it is too difficult and too confusing. You have all the answers that you need at this time--you just need to see yourself making it happen and get out of your own way. It won't be easy, but it will always be worth it. You can kick butt--you know that you can! You just have to be fed up enough with your current situation and you have to be hungry for positive results and good health! 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Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I was thinking the same thing. But then again, there wouldn't be any room for avoids! > I hope so...that side of beef was looking a little much for dinner! > > Re: This and That > > In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:23:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > info@... writes: > > > Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. > > You mean 1 gram right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Here is something that many of you may not know about intolerances (not allergies) More times then not when you test negative for a food, it is because you most likely consume it on a daily basis. Stop the particular food for a week and get retested. You will test ok. Same goes for " avoid' foods that you test ok for. Well, you haven't had it in awhile so the body can utilize it - well maybe once, but if you continue eating it, it will test negative. The reason is that different foods (also food groups) burn up different nutrients. That is why it's important to rotate your food lists. But who does that? Hope this helps. BTW, if you want a forum where everything is a GO? Click here ---> http://www.foodforyourblood.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi and join, then start posting in the GENERAL Forum. Re: This and That Jemmi, I believe that I understand your confusion--but I can only offer you my humble opinion because as you know everything must be customized for each person. With regards to personal food intolerances, last month I had a sophisticated and expensive done by the Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab. The test is $144 for 88 foods, and I added on 21 additional food for $31.50. If you are interested you should consult your physician regarding " Food Anti-body Assessment " (this is the ELISA blood test and covers immediate food allergies and delayed food intolerances). What this told me was that I was very intolerant to rice and a little intolerant to cow's milk--I tested fine on beans, wheat, and other things that are not supposed to be good for O's. Those scientific results make more sense than the muscle testing that I had done the year before (lucky my acupuncturist did it for free). Perhaps the muscle testing for food sensitive makes sense for some people, but it helped me little. But the blood testing only goes so far--I was sure that I would show up with an intolerance to soy (because I certainly feel it) but nothing showed up. My body tells me things that the food intolerance test and the BTD do not. The blood test cannot tell you how the lining of your gut will react--which can be effected by Candida and Leaky Gut issues (for some people NOT everyone). So for me to make a plan that works it truly does take combining different theories and methods. I do not feel guilty for combining theories and methods--because no one has the monopoly on knowledge of the human body and all of its processes. The key is to stick with things for long enough though--so that you can truly assess how your body is handling your new approach. When I have tried something for 4-6 months and it doesn't seem to be working I take a closer look to make sure that I am really doing what I set out to do. This doesn't mean completely changing your approach for the latest fad diet, but it can mean tightening up your plan and paying extremely close attention to how everything you put in your mouth impacts your health. Let me just say that this is all very hard, but you know that it is not beyond any of us. If anyone says that living a healthy life is no work at all then you have just got to wonder about them! We are our bodies best friend and nothing is too good for our best friend. I understand losing confidence in different approaches and even in you own body (goodness, the body certainly changes with time!), all you can do is your best right now--and I believe that you have all the tools that you need. All you need you already have--but a few food tests can help clarify the picture if you feel that you really need them. Don't pay money for tests that you don't really need though just because others have. I would start very simple--meat, beneficial & neutral non-starchy veggies, & fat (this is basically the Paleo diet with no fruit). If you feel bad food reactions then look to the veggies or type of fat (is it a nut that could be causing a problem?). My naturopath had me do this--if I saw no reaction after 4 days then I could introduce another veggie group or fat. The aim of this is to find something that will be your very foundation--I know that this type of personal food testing is restrictive (that is why many choose the blood test--I did both), but it will serve greater purpose later on. Remember--even difficult does not last forever-- these things are a means to an end! I find very few problems on a Paleo diet with BTD food choices as long as I control fruit. I know that you want fruit--but do you want it more than body knowledge and results that this simple test can give you? I don't think so. You suspect that you might be a non-secretor--well, I am one. If you look at the recommendations it says 0-3 servings of beans & legumes weekly, 0-3 servings of grains & starches weekly, and 1-3 servings of fruit a day. The key to look at is 0, that is the beginning of the range--meaning that you might do better without that stuff all together depending on your circumstances. You came off of Atkins and it might seem like too many choices now--but if I were you I wouldn't get my carbs from any beans or grains--but from tasty colorful veggies and maybe one piece of fruit daily (although not if it produces digestive issues--also don't combine this with any meat). Right now you are trying to improve your health and lose weight--but once you get to a better body weight for you then it will be okay to add in fruit (or more if you are already eating one piece), and the 0- 3 servings of bean & grains weekly (coming from Atkin's think " Maintenance Life Plan " ). Your approach should be determined by your goals, that is what you did when you were on Atkins. You gave up complex and simple sugars to see results--and you would do well to continue in that same vein, but with some healthier food choices (no pork & the right veggies) and no dairy (which I'm sure stalled my Atkins progress years ago!). Just remember that just because something is allowed in the BTD doesn't mean that it is for you given your current goal--you don't have to eat it just because you can. Also remember what D'Adamo and many other say about skipping meals--it is terrible for your metabolism and is be counterproductive. Personally it has been hard for me to go from eating 2-3 decent sized meals a day to 5 smaller meals spread out not more than 4 hours apart--but I know that this is what my body needs in order to be healthier. Eating more often kicks up your metabolism- -it is very good tool! I know deep down that exercise makes all the difference in the world--physically, mentally, and spiritually. A cheap and easy way to get starting is by buying a $25 mini-trampoline from Target, Kmart, GI Joes' Sports or wherever (also known as a rebounder) and to just bounce up and down on it for 10 minutes. Work your way up to 40 minutes (take 3 months to do that if you need to) and you will feel much better and your lymphatic system will be so happy! There is very little impact to the body (80% less when running on it then with street running) and my sister who is 240 lbs loves it. I use one too because I can't afford a gym membership--I can do it whenever I want and I have never seen an injury. I think that it really complements a weight training program. I am short like you and tend to be muscular but too round in the middle--I find that this combination works well. I hope that you can get past the " too difficult " issue--because what is really too difficult is putting your body through the back and forth thing (I ought to know--I seem to fall off the wagon every 4 years when a crisis hits me hard!). It really is much easier to stick with one thing for a while and know that you can be less restrictive later on after you have achieved your goals. I not talking about less restrictive being a free for all (certainly not if you want good health & to keep your results)--but the strictest part of a weightloss & health program doesn't have to go on forever if you are diligent. Short term sacrifices (could be some or all fruit, and mostly likely all grain & legumes) could mean greater health in the end--it is worth the sacrifice and the commitment--this is the only body you have. When I am struggling it helps me to reframe my thinking from " this is so hard and this food is boring & always the same " to " this is a challenge and every bite of this wonderful food brings me closer to better health and greater fat loss " (yes, I do like Tony Robbins!). I don't think that your greatest challenge is the food--I think it is how you see the process--don't tell yourself that it is draining, you are working on your body for life--day by day. I really relate to you and this is just me, a regular person, suggesting to you that you stop telling yourself that it is too difficult and too confusing. You have all the answers that you need at this time--you just need to see yourself making it happen and get out of your own way. It won't be easy, but it will always be worth it. You can kick butt--you know that you can! You just have to be fed up enough with your current situation and you have to be hungry for positive results and good health! 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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Belinda...there is always room for avoids...so my deviant self says. I have recognized this some time ago, so I changed the name to DDIS (Don't Do It Stupid) foods and this seems to help without producing the usual deviant slip-a-jelly-bean-in-my-mouth-while I'm-not-looking reactions. Give it try... ...nonnie-O Re: This and That > > In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:23:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > info@... writes: > > > Eat 1 lb of protein per body weight. > > You mean 1 gram right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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