????

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone heard from ?

> she has been quiet a very long time

>

> Barb

> who thought the flaxseed discussion would wake up

>

I was wondering the same thing! Wasn't she having computer problems or

trouble staying online long enough to get reply to messages? I hope she

comes back soon!

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone heard from ?

> she has been quiet a very long time

>

> Barb

> who thought the flaxseed discussion would wake up

>

I was wondering the same thing! Wasn't she having computer problems or

trouble staying online long enough to get reply to messages? I hope she

comes back soon!

[Guest guest]

<<Hi!

I have received nothing from this group for a couple of days...I miss

you guys! Is there a problem with the site?>>

The ML is working okay. Don't worry. We just go quiet sometimes. I myself

only

come on to speak if someone is especially beligerant about our opinions. But

when

no one has any questions or issues, we just chill.

Caer

[Guest guest]

Luann.

yes, I experience constant anxiety or at least I did before I

started to take Lexapro. I am starting my 6th week and feel sooooo

much better. That's not to say that I am not still having panic

attacks, but they are becoming much further apart and are beginning

to lessen in intensity. I was having several a day and there was a

constant underlining feeling of anxiety. This past week I have only

had one real hard day and the panic attacks are much more

manageable. my anxiety and panic attacks were beginning to make

getting through the day extremely difficult. Lexapro is the only

drug that I have taken. It took several weeks before I saw

improvement and in the beginning it seemed to be causing my panic

attacks to become much more intense. I am so glad I stuck it out.

Hope this helps

Lynda

>

> Am I the only one in this group that has constant anxiety

symptoms?

>

> I mean can I always be experiencing anxiety? Seems a little much

don't cha think? And for all of you in this group taking meds and

they are working for you...count your lucky stars, I wish I could be

as brave as you.And one last thing if you do have symptoms the

majority of the time like myself...do you just go on with your daily

routine and try not to let it get you down? do you pop a xanax? I am

sorry to unload like this but I need my life back now more than ever!

>

> Thanks for listening! Luann

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

[Guest guest]

I do at times. I was having it constantly for the last couple of months.

I started taking Lex Thursday of last week. I also read a book by Emery on

cognitive

Behavior. I had to work a 4 day trade show this weekend. I have social anxiety

and get real

anxious in loud places. The trade show was a musical instrument show. Lots of

people

making all kinds of noise.

Between taking a .5mg Xanax XR at night and one in the morning, and taking 5 mg

Lexapro and doing a lot of praying and having friends pray for me, I got through

it just

fine.

I did very well and while I had anxiety and mini-panic attacks at times. I

shoved through

them as the cognitive behavioral book tells you to and by the end of today, the

last day of

the show, I was pretty desensetised to may issues. It was a huge victory. I have

noticed

that since the second day of taking the Lexapro I have had my anxiety go down

considerably and the depression that came with feeling anxious all the time over

any little

situation is gone.

You need to go on about your daily routine and realize that anxiety is just a

feeling. It is

not reality and it's not dangerous. It may feel like it is but it isn't.

Sometimes popping a

Xanax is what you need to get through something, just remember that they can be

adicting so I limit myself to 1 mg total in a 24 hour period and try to limit

myself to .5mg

normally.

You can do this but you need to get mad at it and challenge it. Check out

Emery's

book. I don't remember the name but search Emery on Amazon.

You'll get beyond this.

>

> Am I the only one in this group that has constant anxiety symptoms?

>

> I mean can I always be experiencing anxiety? Seems a little much don't cha

think? And

for all of you in this group taking meds and they are working for you...count

your lucky

stars, I wish I could be as brave as you.And one last thing if you do have

symptoms the

majority of the time like myself...do you just go on with your daily routine and

try not to

let it get you down? do you pop a xanax? I am sorry to unload like this but I

need my life

back now more than ever!

>

> Thanks for listening! Luann

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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whatever.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Playing catchup with groups....

Yes, I had constant anxiety for several months before starting Celexa. The

Celexa helped some but the sides were too much for me. I came off it after

14 months and two years later I was put on Effexor XR. Effexor has been a

lifesaver for me. It gave me back my life. It gave me back " me " .

Not every drug works for every person. We all react differently to the

different drugs. Apparently I need a dual uptake inhibitor which Celexa and

Lexapro are not. They control only seretonin while Effexor controls both

seretonin and norepinephrine. That seemed to be the magic pill that I

needed. I'm on only 75mg and have been for about year. I feel normal and

have no sides from the drug at all that I'm aware of.

It's worth it to do the trial and error thing. Most of us have to. When you

find the one that works for you you'll be.... I don't know.....ecstatic? ;-)

What AD's and such have you tried?

Barbara

????

> Am I the only one in this group that has constant anxiety symptoms?

>

> I mean can I always be experiencing anxiety? Seems a little much don't

> cha think? And for all of you in this group taking meds and they are

> working for you...count your lucky stars, I wish I could be as brave as

> you.And one last thing if you do have symptoms the majority of the time

> like myself...do you just go on with your daily routine and try not to let

> it get you down? do you pop a xanax? I am sorry to unload like this but I

> need my life back now more than ever!

>

> Thanks for listening! Luann

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays,

> whatever.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Caroline, how about giving this a try:

Since you are a stay-at-home mom, why not do as MUCH LifeLift flex-

breathing as your schedule allows & keep track of it in a log for one

week ??? Just remember to write down ALL your before & after tape

measurements & report back to us with your terrific RESULTS !!! That

should encourage & inspire everyone on this list <:-)

Your friend,

CC

P.S. I recall reading somewhere that excercising for 20 minutes at

once is the optimum length of time -- But you can still repeat your

20 minute workouts multiple times throughout the day & add as many 7-

10 minute " short bursts " of LL flex-breaths as you feel comfortable

doing...

>

> Hi again,

>

> How many breaths a day for OPTIMAL weight loss? I know 40 is the

> standard, but if I really want to kick things up what would you

suggest?

> 80? 120?

>

> Can you really do it after eating and still lose weight?

>

> I have all the tapes and bands, but my MIL has them right now and

we

> just moved 1200 miles away from them. Can you help me remember the

> best tummy moves? My baby belly from my four kids is creeping

back.

>

> Oh, I did 30 in the shower and OZ with the kids this AM. I am

headed

> out for a walk with the kiddos (I homeshcool four kids) and I will

> breath some more while I do that.

>

> Caroline

>

[Guest guest]

You know, that is a terrific idea! I'm going to get some of the

organic navy beans collecting dust in my pantry and carry two little

zip locks with me wherever I go to keep track. Thanks for the

suggestion

Caroline

> >

> > Hi again,

> >

> > How many breaths a day for OPTIMAL weight loss? I know 40 is the

> > standard, but if I really want to kick things up what would you

> suggest?

> > 80? 120?

> >

> > Can you really do it after eating and still lose weight?

> >

> > I have all the tapes and bands, but my MIL has them right now and

> we

> > just moved 1200 miles away from them. Can you help me remember

the

> > best tummy moves? My baby belly from my four kids is creeping

> back.

> >

> > Oh, I did 30 in the shower and OZ with the kids this AM. I am

> headed

> > out for a walk with the kiddos (I homeshcool four kids) and I

will

> > breath some more while I do that.

> >

> > Caroline

> >

>

[Guest guest]

NOW you're talkin' <:-) Can't wait to hear about all those inches

you'll be losing !!!

Your friend,

CC

> > >

> > > Hi again,

> > >

> > > How many breaths a day for OPTIMAL weight loss? I know 40 is

the

> > > standard, but if I really want to kick things up what would you

> > suggest?

> > > 80? 120?

> > >

> > > Can you really do it after eating and still lose weight?

> > >

> > > I have all the tapes and bands, but my MIL has them right now

and

> > we

> > > just moved 1200 miles away from them. Can you help me remember

> the

> > > best tummy moves? My baby belly from my four kids is creeping

> > back.

> > >

> > > Oh, I did 30 in the shower and OZ with the kids this AM. I am

> > headed

> > > out for a walk with the kiddos (I homeshcool four kids) and I

> will

> > > breath some more while I do that.

> > >

> > > Caroline

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What a great idea CC.

Molly : O)

> >

> > Hi again,

> >

> > How many breaths a day for OPTIMAL weight loss? I know 40 is

the

> > standard, but if I really want to kick things up what would you

> suggest?

> > 80? 120?

> >

> > Can you really do it after eating and still lose weight?

> >

> > I have all the tapes and bands, but my MIL has them right now

and

> we

> > just moved 1200 miles away from them. Can you help me remember

the

> > best tummy moves? My baby belly from my four kids is creeping

> back.

> >

> > Oh, I did 30 in the shower and OZ with the kids this AM. I am

> headed

> > out for a walk with the kiddos (I homeshcool four kids) and I

will

> > breath some more while I do that.

> >

> > Caroline

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I believe that it is definitely related! I am sure that there is

plenty to read about it too. Just search " vaccine ADD " or any other thing you

want to find out about.

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 1/7/2008 5:18:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

K05CORNE@... writes:

Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

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[Guest guest]

Yeah i have always wondered about add adhd i never reserched it as my kids

dont have those problems.I have seen been around kids who have it some i

couldn't tell but some were off the chain behavioral but that could stem from

parents and their raising i guess.

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[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, yes, I believe toxins (in all forms) as well as repeated

antibiotics are related to ADD/ADHD and probably many other " diseases " we

are told " just happen. "

Health & blessings,

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On Jan 7, 2008 5:18 PM, <K05CORNE@...> wrote:

> Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

> think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

[Guest guest]

As far as I know ADHD and ADD are inventions of the psychiatric/pharmaceutical

industry. As is Bipolar disorder.

They were invented to keep the shrinks in business to, of course make money, for

them and the pill companies. Young children (virtually all young chlidren) have

low attention spans. They must be trained to concentrate on different things for

longer and longer periods of time. The is what education is all about. Training

minds. That is why my children were never allowed to watch sesame street.

Sesame street reinforces the short attention span of kids.

The shrinks are busily trying to categorize every emotional state of the human

mind as a disorder of some kind. And get the pill companies to market another

toxic pill to treat it. It's all about the $$$.

So what if they destroy the lives of thousands of children every year. As long

as the $$$ keep flowing, so what?

Joe

lordeeme@... wrote: Yes, I believe that it is

definitely related! I am sure that there is

plenty to read about it too. Just search " vaccine ADD " or any other thing you

want to find out about.

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 1/7/2008 5:18:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

K05CORNE@... writes:

Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[Guest guest]

This isn't entirely true. I agree that the psychs are trying to categorize

every human experience as a mental illness so they can connect it to a pill to

treat it. However, ADD and ADHD are real conditions, but they are imbalances in

neurotransmitters in the brain and are very treatable. Our family doctor

(chiro/nutritionist, NOT an MD or psych) treated my son's ADHD (an after effect

of his autism) very effectively. He was on a supplement regimen for 6 months

and was able to go off his supplements. Never at any time was he on any meds

and he's homeschooled so he was not subjected to arbitrary " won't sit still "

rules. He was actually very sick and very out of control. He's totally normal

now and is doing beautifully.

ADD and ADHD are very much over-diagnosed, by the schools especially, where they

just need kids to sit still and listen. Making them into zombies by the use of

medication is the only way to accomplish that goal since most kids are active

and curious by nature. Most of the kids " diagnosed " do not actually have any

attention issues, many are simply very active boys. There is, however, a world

of difference between a normal, active boy and one that's totally out of control

- I've seen both sides of the coin in my son.

ADD and ADHD are one of the biggest reasons why I homeschool my kids. My son is

very bright, curious and active - things that are very much discouraged in

public schools. He would almost assuredly be nailed with ADHD, just as he is -

not to mention how he was. When he was 2, the speech therapist told me he

probably had ADHD.

--

Roni Bergerson

Independent Monavie Distributor

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From: ph McGuire <kingcop@...>

As far as I know ADHD and ADD are inventions of the psychiatric/pharmaceutical

industry. As is Bipolar disorder.

They were invented to keep the shrinks in business to, of course make money, for

them and the pill companies. Young children (virtually all young chlidren) have

low attention spans. They must be trained to concentrate on different things for

longer and longer periods of time. The is what education is all about. Training

minds. That is why my children were never allowed to watch sesame street.

Sesame street reinforces the short attention span of kids.

The shrinks are busily trying to categorize every emotional state of the human

mind as a disorder of some kind. And get the pill companies to market another

toxic pill to treat it. It's all about the $$$.

So what if they destroy the lives of thousands of children every year. As long

as the $$$ keep flowing, so what?

Joe

lordeeme@... wrote: Yes, I believe that it is definitely related! I am sure

that there is

plenty to read about it too. Just search " vaccine ADD " or any other thing you

want to find out about.

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 1/7/2008 5:18:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

K05CORNE@... writes:

Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[Guest guest]

Those diseases that are written off as " just happening " are the effect of an

industry that really has no clue how the human body works and what most of

modern medicine is doing to the body.

Between going to school for naturopathic medicine, talking with other

naturopaths and my own personal chiro, there is an explanation for everything

that happens in the body....if you understand how the body works.

All the proof I need of that came when my son was dying of starvation despite

eating constantly. Despite countless tests and doctors, they still had no idea

what was going on and said that it was " just one of those things that happen "

and that " there was nothing more they could do " . I was going to lose my son and

nobody knew why. My chiro ran some tests and within two weeks my son was on

supplements and 3 and a half years later he's a strapping preschooler who is

doing wonderfully and has overcome every challenge and delay brought on by his

illnesses.

More proof came with my older son - the doctor's told me he'd be in an

institution by the time he was 4 due to aggression related to his autism. They

said there was no way he would recover and they could try speech, ABA therapy

and drugs (anti-psychotics, of course) to try to improve him, but he'd never

recover. He was diagnosed at 2.5 years and was recovered by 5 years thanks to

my chiro.

--

Roni Bergerson

Independent Monavie Distributor

Celebrate Good Health with Monavie!

http://www.mymonavie.com/jandrbergerson/

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From: " P " <ExcitingHealth@...>

Unfortunately, yes, I believe toxins (in all forms) as well as repeated

antibiotics are related to ADD/ADHD and probably many other " diseases " we

are told " just happen. "

Health & blessings,

*Go GREEN with GET CLEAN as featured on Oprah's Favorite Things!

New Year Special - 33% off *- http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/product/59262

http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean

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On Jan 7, 2008 5:18 PM, <K05CORNE@...> wrote:

> Since reading up on so much from this group and harms of vax. Does anyone

> think vax are related to all this adhd or add stuff?

[Guest guest]

Is the site down I haven't seen any post all weekend?

Sitting here at the airport waiting to go..... Bundle of emotions!

Wondering how Kris is doing??? You out there?

brandy

[Guest guest]

Good luck ! I had my sleeve done on March 15th and it was the most wonderful thing I have ever done!! You will find the staff to be very caring and responsive! You have nothing to be worried about... I have no doubts that you will love the experience as much as I did!

Chrysi

From: ishoot42@...Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:55:43 +0000Subject: ????

Is the site down I haven't seen any post all weekend? Sitting here at the airport waiting to go..... Bundle of emotions! Wondering how Kris is doing??? You out there?brandy

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[Guest guest]

Hi !! I am doing fine, thanks for asking. I posted on friday before my surgery but was pretty much recovering the whole weekend. I wont say it was a breeze but I have to say it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. After the surgery I had alot of gas and it was very painful but I started walking when they allowed me to and doing my breathing excercises. Those are the two things along with trying to sip sip sip as much liquid in very small amounts that have me feeling better each day after the surgery.

I actually just got home this morning at 6am and its been a long day :\ The head stuff is now kicking in. I am not hungry and I am not craving anything at this time but dinner on the counter and having a natural reaction to go over an have a bite of something is still there. This is the beginning of my journey and I'm going to take it day by day. But I do already know that I am going to use this tool to become a healthy habit eating person. I am determined to lose the weight and become the happy healthy person that I am meant to be!!

Did you have your surgery?? If so when? And How are you doing? Were you one of the girls who came in on Monday? I hope your doing well!!

Take care !! TTYSoon!!

From: "SuzanneSH@..." <SuzanneSH@...> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 6:19:44 PMSubject: Re: ????

I think it may have been down or Nina didn't have time to read everything before she posted it. Hang in there. We are here now. You are in good hands and going to be just fine. I promise you.

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:32:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ishoot42 (DOT) com writes:

Is the site down I haven't seen any post all weekend? Sitting here at the airport waiting to go..... Bundle of emotions! Wondering how Kris is doing??? You out there?brandy

[Guest guest]

Hey Kris!! Glad to hear your doing better! When I left you on Sunday

you weren't feeling so hot and I was rushed to leave so I'm sorry I

didn't get a chance to say goodbye. I understand what you're saying

about head hunger. My best friend came over tonight and was hungry and

she had chicken tacos with chips and salsa. It smelled sooo good but I

just focused on my drink and started reading what everybody had to say

on this site via my iPhone and before I knew it she was done. I keep

telling myself that I will someday be able to eat a chicken taco

again!! Lol! I guess that will have to get me through for now! Take

care sis,

les-Drane

[Guest guest]

Yes I was one of the girls who Camron Sunday had sugery Monday, just finished my

xray with contrast and waiting to get my tube out! It s been quite the

adventure! Everyone is so very nice here but I am anxious to get home to my own

bed! Lol

keep in touch ! Goodluck

On Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 7:04 PM PDT Kris Frost wrote:

>Hi !!  I am doing fine, thanks for asking. I posted on friday before my

surgery but was pretty much recovering the whole weekend. I wont say it was a

breeze but I have to say it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. After the

surgery I had alot of gas and it was very painful but I started walking when

they allowed me to and doing my breathing excercises. Those are the two things

along with trying to sip sip sip as much liquid in very small amounts that have

me feeling better each day after the surgery.

>

>I actually just got home this morning at 6am and its been a long day :\ The

head stuff is now kicking in. I am not hungry and I am not craving anything at

this time but dinner on the counter and having a natural reaction to go over an

have a bite of something is still there. This is the beginning of my journey and

I'm going to take it day by day. But I do already know that I am going to use

this tool to become a healthy habit eating person. I am determined to lose the

weight and become the happy healthy person that I am meant to be!! 

>

>Did you have your surgery?? If so when? And How are you doing? Were you one of

the girls who came in on Monday? I hope your doing well!!

>

>Take care !! TTYSoon!!

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: " SuzanneSH@... " <SuzanneSH@...>

>

>Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 6:19:44 PM

>Subject: Re: ????

>

> 

>I think it may have been down or Nina didn't have time to read everything

before she posted it.  Hang in there.  We are here now.  You are in good hands

and going to be just fine.  I promise you.

>

>Hugs,

>Suzanne

>

>In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:32:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ishoot42 (DOT) com writes:

> 

>>Is the site down I haven't seen any post all weekend?

>>Sitting here at the airport waiting to go..... Bundle of emotions!

>>Wondering how Kris is doing??? You out there?

>>brandy

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey ... I'm with you on the head hunger thing... I've asked my fiancee and my daughter to not eat in the same room as me... with my heightened sense of smell, it is torture!

Chrysi

From: tezgab18@...Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:25:59 -0700Subject: Re: ????

Hey Kris!! Glad to hear your doing better! When I left you on Sunday you weren't feeling so hot and I was rushed to leave so I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to say goodbye. I understand what you're saying about head hunger. My best friend came over tonight and was hungry and she had chicken tacos with chips and salsa. It smelled sooo good but I just focused on my drink and started reading what everybody had to say on this site via my iPhone and before I knew it she was done. I keep telling myself that I will someday be able to eat a chicken taco again!! Lol! I guess that will have to get me through for now! Take care sis, les-Drane

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[Guest guest]

I hope they will honor and respect what you are going through right now. Head Hunger is a real issue, but as time goes on you get so much better at dealing with it.

Take Care,

Suzanne

In a message dated 3/25/2010 2:59:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kimmies_mommy@... writes:

Hey ... I'm with you on the head hunger thing... I've asked my fiancee and my daughter to not eat in the same room as me... with my heightened sense of smell, it is torture! Chrysi

From: tezgab18aolDate: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:25:59 -0700Subject: Re: ????

Hey Kris!! Glad to hear your doing better! When I left you on Sunday you weren't feeling so hot and I was rushed to leave so I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to say goodbye. I understand what you're saying about head hunger. My best friend came over tonight and was hungry and she had chicken tacos with chips and salsa. It smelled sooo good but I just focused on my drink and started reading what everybody had to say on this site via my iPhone and before I knew it she was done. I keep telling myself that I will someday be able to eat a chicken taco again!! Lol! I guess that will have to get me through for now! Take care sis, les-Drane

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