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I'd be interested in the list of remedies... if you don't mind sharing.

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> anesthesia sits inside the liver and i have found the best way to purge this

stuff out is through homeopathy

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> i have a surgery box that people take home with them and they follow this

little list of directions to purge the anesthesia from the body

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> i would be happy to supply you with the list if you would like

> works amazingly wonderful

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> i put an envelope in the box and people put a cash donation in it so that i

can keep refilling the homeopathic remedies as they run out

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Gerald,

My experience was neither. I was out like a light even before I left my

room. And I was quite awake before I even got back to my room. It could

not have been any better than that.

When the time comes, be sure to share your concerns with the

anesthesiologist.

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Not suffocating at all. It makes you drowsy and then you're out. Next

thing you know you're in recovery. Coming out of anesthesia makes you feel

very dopey and you drift in and out of sleep until the stuff wears off.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:49 PM

Subject: Anesthesia

Is anesthesia becoming dozy or is it like suffocating? This is what scares

me the most. Ignorance is the worst thing to have.

Gerald

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Hey Gerald - I've had several surgeries just in the last few years.

Anesthesia is like falling asleep in front of the TV when you didn't know you

were

tired. When you wake up you will wonder why they didn't start the surgery

yet! It's a dreamless sleep. Easy, peasy! Jackie :o)

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I just had ear surgery monday and asked for a relaxer drug first so, i

didn't really care then i was in recovery. If it is your first surgery as it

was mine, jut let them know you are nervous and I'm sure they'd give you

something like that. My surgery was quick so i was up and around, going home

in not much time. I had been afraid of that too, the falling asleep part,

but as ssoon as i gotthe relaxer drug, i was fine.

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Hey Gerald - I've had several surgeries just in the last few years.

Anesthesia is like falling asleep in front of the TV when you didn't know

you were

tired. When you wake up you will wonder why they didn't start the surgery

yet! It's a dreamless sleep. Easy, peasy! Jackie :o)

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Jackie,

 

My  source information is obviously out of date.  Circa 1955 a fellow student

told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my  late  wife.  Obviously,  new

chemicals are being used.

 

Gerald

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Subject: Re:Anesthesia

Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 7:48 PM

Hey Gerald - I've had several surgeries just in the last few years.

Anesthesia is like falling asleep in front of the TV when you didn't know you

were

tired. When you wake up you will wonder why they didn't start the surgery

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They generally give you something to calm you down before surgery.

Mother's little helper (Valium) is the usual choice of drugs. But, hey,

if you're going to be in surgery, you may as well enjoy yourself, eh?

I just had ear surgery monday and asked for a relaxer drug first so, i

didn't really care then i was in recovery

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Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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Gerald - I remember the mask over the face. It was used on me when I was

10 years old to remove my tonsils. It was a nitemare! And I HAD nitemares!

It was used to administer ether. Today that method is gone - unless they

still use it in third world contries, but I doubt it! LOL You get an IV

placed while awake - then they put meds in to make you sleep and all other

things are done AFTER you are asleep and removed before you wake up (except IV).

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Ruth,

 

My information with people who had major surgery is 24/54 years old.  A lot of

improvements have occurred with anesthesia.  I had IV with a colonoscopy and

thallium stress test (both negative) so I do not dread that. Except, I have to

tell a nurse to remove the darn thing when I am in the recovery room.

 

Gerald

From: Ruth Ilean Fox <rifox@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:27 AM

Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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My first surgery was 37 years ago, my first CI surgery 22 years ago, and my

second CI surgery 9 years ago and they have all been the same in regard to

the instantaneous anesthesia through the IV where I was out before I

realized it and waking up what seemed like a second later with the

procedure done and myself in a different location than the operating room.

J The only difference with the later surgeries from the first surgeries

is that the waking up period has been gentler and recovery faster. I just

wanted to reassure you that it isn't something to really worry about. And

by the way the CI surgery is not considered a major surgery, particularly

today. Ruth

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Gerald Gollinger

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:30 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

Ruth,

My information with people who had major surgery is 24/54 years old. A lot

of improvements have occurred with anesthesia. I had IV with a colonoscopy

and thallium stress test (both negative) so I do not dread that. Except, I

have to tell a nurse to remove the darn thing when I am in the recovery

room.

Gerald

From: Ruth Ilean Fox <rifox@... <mailto:rifox%40comcast.net> >

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

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Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:27 AM

Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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Do you actually mean they did away with the mask over the face?

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Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:27 AM

Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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The mask over the face must have come after I was completely out if they

used it. It wasn't part of my " going to sleep " process. I didn't see it

in my last surgery and my senior moments make the earlier surgeries in that

much detail too blurred. J Ruth

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Gerald Gollinger

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:03 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

Do you actually mean they did away with the mask over the face?

From: Ruth Ilean Fox <rifoxcomcast (DOT) net <mailto:rifox% 40comcast. net> >

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:27 AM

Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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However in addition to my last response, remember that every surgery,

hospital, and doctor is different. You should be having a consultation with

the anesthesiologist before your surgery and you can ask him/her what to

expect. Ruth

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Gerald Gollinger

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:03 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

Do you actually mean they did away with the mask over the face?

From: Ruth Ilean Fox <rifoxcomcast (DOT) net <mailto:rifox% 40comcast. net> >

Subject: RE: Re: Anesthesia

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:27 AM

Gerald, I had the CI surgery twice and other surgeries too through my life

and with each of them I watched them insert something into my IV line (IV

was inserted in pre op) and a second later I was trying to wake up in

recovery with no recollection of what happened between. Ruth

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of

M Jansen

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:19 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Hi Gerald,

First surgery I had was getting appendix removed, and I wasn't totally

out of it, when they inserted a breathing tube. I was fighting against

it, because nobody wants something shoved down their throat. But

couldn't say anything because I was almost under anesthesia. I thought I

was dying, choking to death, and nobody knew about it.

So I've always asked them to make certain I'm out before intubating me

for any surgical proceedure.

Probably learned a bunch from the street corner users of drugs. LOL

My source information is obviously out of date. Circa 1955 a fellow

student told me of nightmares and circa 1985 ditto my late wife.

Obviously, new chemicals are being used.

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Gerald,

Aren't you getting ahead of yourself again? After you have been

evaluated, and had the MRI, you will then have the consultation with the

surgeon and at that time you will outline all of your surgery related

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Thanks Jackie,  I saw my hearing aid audiologist this afternoon.  I told him

that I requested an evaluation on May 18, and he replied to give them until

Thursday May 28 to respond if I do not hear from them sooner.

 

I agree with that I am getting ahead of myself.  But doctors except

psychiatrists give patients very little time.  I be at a loss if it was not for

this group.  And to cancel the procedure out of ignorance would be even worst.

 

Gerald

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Subject: Re: Anesthesia

Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:57 PM

Gerald - I remember the mask over the face. It was used on me when I was

10 years old to remove my tonsils. It was a nitemare! And I HAD nitemares!

It was used to administer ether. Today that method is gone - unless they

still use it in third world contries, but I doubt it! LOL You get an IV

placed while awake - then they put meds in to make you sleep and all other

things are done AFTER you are asleep and removed before you wake up (except IV).

It's NOTHING like what you are thinking. Jackie

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Gerald - when I got my first CI - I was told I'd see a shrink, too. Turns

out they had the audiologist actually do the shrink's interview. She asked

what I expected from the surgery. I answered, " to lose 40 pounds and to

grow at least 5 inches (I'm 4'11 " ). She said - 0k - you pass! " I swear - that

was it! If you aren't hearing and your hearing tests show it, as long as

you don't expect perfection, you won't have any problem - so stop worrying.

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Your comment " to cancel the procedure out of ignorance would be even worse "

really hit the nail on the head. I'm sure it happens way to many times because

a person does not ask questions and then bails out because of the " fear of the

unknown " :-( I guess I'm just nosy so I asked lots of questions and from

reading this forum, I had a much better idea of what questions to ask my surgeon

and audiologist from the beginning of my CI journey.

Keep us posted how the evaluation goes.

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Activation Date 2/14/08

Dr. W. Conlon, Alpha ENT Clinic Ft. , CO

Thanks Jackie, I saw my hearing aid audiologist this afternoon. I told him

that I requested an evaluation on May 18, and he replied to give them until

Thursday May 28 to respond if I do not hear from them sooner.

I agree with that I am getting ahead of myself. But doctors except

psychiatrists give patients very little time. I be at a loss if it was not for

this group. And to cancel the procedure out of ignorance would be even worst.

Gerald

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> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

Our 4.5 year old son just had a minor surgery that required general anesthesia.

He did well, no nausea or vomiting, or any difficulty waking up. We don't have a

history of difficulties from anesthesia either. The only thing he didn't care

for was the IV in his hand. He couldn't pull it out only because his other arm

was broken. He did like to lick on the IV so they ended up putting an ACE type

bandgage all over his hand.

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> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

Our 4.5 year old son just had a minor surgery that required general anesthesia.

He did well, no nausea or vomiting, or any difficulty waking up. We don't have a

history of difficulties from anesthesia either. The only thing he didn't care

for was the IV in his hand. He couldn't pull it out only because his other arm

was broken. He did like to lick on the IV so they ended up putting an ACE type

bandgage all over his hand.

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> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

Our 4.5 year old son just had a minor surgery that required general anesthesia.

He did well, no nausea or vomiting, or any difficulty waking up. We don't have a

history of difficulties from anesthesia either. The only thing he didn't care

for was the IV in his hand. He couldn't pull it out only because his other arm

was broken. He did like to lick on the IV so they ended up putting an ACE type

bandgage all over his hand.

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Rejesh, you may want to google info from Demio MD as he talked about this at

last years USAAA conference. Call Doctor Pothuluri also.

All medical procedures have risk and it would have to be absolutely necessary

for me to do surgery with a child on the spectrum. I'd also want my DAN doctor

to work with the medical team. Most mainstream doctors don't understand

autism.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

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Rejesh, you may want to google info from Demio MD as he talked about this at

last years USAAA conference. Call Doctor Pothuluri also.

All medical procedures have risk and it would have to be absolutely necessary

for me to do surgery with a child on the spectrum. I'd also want my DAN doctor

to work with the medical team. Most mainstream doctors don't understand

autism.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

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Rejesh, you may want to google info from Demio MD as he talked about this at

last years USAAA conference. Call Doctor Pothuluri also.

All medical procedures have risk and it would have to be absolutely necessary

for me to do surgery with a child on the spectrum. I'd also want my DAN doctor

to work with the medical team. Most mainstream doctors don't understand

autism.

>

> Has anyone had any experience with anesthesia for their kids and its effects

on kids who are on the spectrum ? My son (3.5 yrs old) needs to have a medical

procedure done and needs to be on general anesthesia. Please advise. Thanks

>

> Rajesh

>

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