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> Anyway, I think this need for the Other is largely an NT and

political

> thing. NTs seem to need the Other to unite them rather than

something

> constructive, like say simply doing the best with their own lives to

benefit everyone

> else. Politicians muck things up even more with rewards and spoils

to different

> groups. This only increases competition and division as these groups

compete

> over the scraps, not realizing (or perhaps they do and exploit it)

that this

> only fragments society, weakening it from within.

>

>

Yeah, isn't this a shame? And they also seem to get soft and spoiled

and degraded when things go well, instead of using the easy time for

good, like you mention above.

>

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I what you mean I am told I don't speak up for myself but I say three

word and somebody else jumps in on top of me... so I wait for the next

break and try to talk and get cut off again... Finally get piss that I'm

not permitted to complete a thought and either go away and pout that my

option isn't worth listening to or a blowup that nobody will let me have

the floor to state a complete thought...

It's okay for other people to cut me off but if I try to express myself

I'm always the bad guy...

Ender

At 01:51 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote:

>: " I somehow

managed to make it through mainstream school, but it certainly was not

easy.... "

Boy, does this thought bring back memories of just how very difficult it

was for me to participate in round table discussions in school.

I was always way too quiet in a class where a very few 'talkers'

monopolized conversations to the detriment of my 'grades'.

I always 'wanted' to speak up, but never seemed to be able to get a word

in edgewise.

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I wanted to reply to this message - but everytime I press 'reply' it

comes up with a blank instead of the post I am meant to be replying to -

which is Ender's if it doesn't come out.

All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem to talk

over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous and I

cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

conversations if they are all talking at once?

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> I think the good times are when one lays up stocks for the bad. Me too.Granted I > don't always do that,Me neither. but I am aware of the opportunity cost of spending my > money now on things rather than saving. Me too.

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> Boy, does this thought bring back memories of just how very

difficult

> it was for me to participate in round table discussions in school.

>

> I was always way too quiet in a class where a very few 'talkers'

> monopolized conversations to the detriment of my 'grades'.

>

> I always 'wanted' to speak up, but never seemed to be able to get a

> word in edgewise.

>

> Rainbow

>

I always dreaded the group projects.

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> " All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem to talk

> over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous and I

> cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

> conversations if they are all talking at once? "

I don't like it when people interrupt and talk at the same time but I

have the problem here of people talking too slowly and going on and on,

explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, like if someone

is going to tell me who they saw working as cashier in the store, why

can't they just say, " Judy " . No, instead they do this: " I went to

the store, you know, the grocery store, and was going to go shopping.

So I got a shopping cart and tooled down each aisle, picking out what I

wanted until I got to the cashier-- " and I interrupt before they get

THAT far with " WHO is the cashier?! " It's so frustrating, my mind moves

quickly and I don't want to be told superfluous details that I already

know. Also I come from a part of the country where people talk quickly

and get to the point and conversation is give and take, not listening

to a long diatribe 2-3 minutes long! But then, I could never make it in

New York City with the quick intense way they converse, so I try to be

patient. But it is agonizingly difficult!

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 1:59:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

Interesting - I do know what you mean though; but sometimes people leave out what I would consider important details and yet cover a load of irrelevant stuff. I have sometimes a tendency to say 'and the point is?' or 'get to the point' also 'stop going around the houses' -other times I just let them ramble on and see if I can make some semblance of it all; depends what mood I am in :-)

My mother is famous for doing this. She will say things that seem to have nothing to do with anything and when I ask her what she means she gets a bit testy. She also loves to use "thing" and "corner", etc. to try to tell me where to find things. Today we were at the grocery walking down the freezer aisle when she says to get a package of the things. What things I ask. The thing-a-ma-jiggers I like, she says. OK, here's a whole aisle of stuff and I have no idea what she means. Finally she gets it herself.

Its like talking to the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland. The caterpillar (I think that is the right critter) would say that words meant what it wanted them to so it wasn't its fault that Alice couldn't understand what it meant. My mother is like that. She will often say that she knows what she means. That may be so, but it doesn't help me because I don't have a clue what she means.

And she wonders why I don't pay that much attention to her.

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:15:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes:

LOL! This is what happens to me when I read non-fiction. I really want them just to get to the friggin point already and quit wasting my time with irrelevant details and a lot of bla bla bla that's just filling to make it a book rather than an article. Not wishing to insult, just stating a fact, I do find American writers to often be unnecessarily verbose. (When I write something myself, I try to be as succinct (sp) as possible.) If they don't get to the point soon enough for me, I tend to get bored and just skim the text, hoping that the relevant bits will jump out at me.

There has been a lot of non-fiction that has really bored me to tears. There was one book I read about the Battle Of Kursk that said to an extent it was a German victory, but one that they could not follow up on. The author made the point that most Germans tanks were only damaged and not destroyed, while most Soviet tanks were destroyed and unrecoverable. He used tables and maintenance records and other primary sources to come to this conclusion.

It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and proved his point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept saying the same thing over and over again. I gave up about a quarter of the way through and then just looked over the charts and tables in the book to follow up.

There have been plenty of others that were just as bad, especially in college. I don't see why these writers can't take a few creative writing classes so that they can present their work in a more readable fashion.

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Interesting - I do know what you mean though; but sometimes people

leave out what I would consider important details and yet cover a

load of irrelevant stuff. I have sometimes a tendency to say 'and the

point is?' or 'get to the point' also 'stop going around the houses' -

other times I just let them ramble on and see if I can make some

semblance of it all; depends what mood I am in :-)

> >

> > " All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem to

talk

> > over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous and I

> > cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

> > conversations if they are all talking at once? "

>

> I don't like it when people interrupt and talk at the same time but

I

> have the problem here of people talking too slowly and going on and

on,

> explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, like if

someone

> is going to tell me who they saw working as cashier in the store,

why

> can't they just say, " Judy " . No, instead they do this: " I

went to

> the store, you know, the grocery store, and was going to go

shopping.

> So I got a shopping cart and tooled down each aisle, picking out

what I

> wanted until I got to the cashier-- " and I interrupt before they

get

> THAT far with " WHO is the cashier?! " It's so frustrating, my mind

moves

> quickly and I don't want to be told superfluous details that I

already

> know. Also I come from a part of the country where people talk

quickly

> and get to the point and conversation is give and take, not

listening

> to a long diatribe 2-3 minutes long! But then, I could never make

it in

> New York City with the quick intense way they converse, so I try to

be

> patient. But it is agonizingly difficult!

> >

> >

> >

>

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I used to be able to blank out on the unimportant parts and key in on

the important ones but I can't do that so well, anymore. Now I blank

out any old where. And if they go on too long, I can't remember what

the first parts of the story were. So I'll hear: " ...and so she shot

him. " I'll jump to and say, " Who shot who? " and the person will say

with exasperation, " SALLY shot her TEACHER. " I would really like it

if people would state the theme of their little stories at the

outset, like say, 'Sally shot her teacher' first and then tell the

story, but I guess they want to build up suspense.

> > >

> > > " All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem to

> talk

> > > over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous and

I

> > > cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

> > > conversations if they are all talking at once? "

> >

> > I don't like it when people interrupt and talk at the same time

but

> I

> > have the problem here of people talking too slowly and going on

and

> on,

> > explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, like if

> someone

> > is going to tell me who they saw working as cashier in the store,

> why

> > can't they just say, " Judy " . No, instead they do this: " I

> went to

> > the store, you know, the grocery store, and was going to go

> shopping.

> > So I got a shopping cart and tooled down each aisle, picking out

> what I

> > wanted until I got to the cashier-- " and I interrupt before they

> get

> > THAT far with " WHO is the cashier?! " It's so frustrating, my mind

> moves

> > quickly and I don't want to be told superfluous details that I

> already

> > know. Also I come from a part of the country where people talk

> quickly

> > and get to the point and conversation is give and take, not

> listening

> > to a long diatribe 2-3 minutes long! But then, I could never make

> it in

> > New York City with the quick intense way they converse, so I try

to

> be

> > patient. But it is agonizingly difficult!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> I used to be able to blank out on the unimportant parts and key in on

the important ones but I can't do that so well, anymore. Now I blank

out any old where. And if they go on too long, I can't remember what

the first parts of the story were. So I'll hear: " ...and so she shot

him. " I'll jump to and say, " Who shot who? " and the person will say

with exasperation, " SALLY shot her TEACHER. "

LOL! This is what happens to me when I read non-fiction. I really want them

just to get to the friggin point already and quit wasting my time with

irrelevant details and a lot of bla bla bla that's just filling to make it a

book rather than an article. Not wishing to insult, just stating a fact, I

do find American writers to often be unnecessarily verbose. (When I write

something myself, I try to be as succinct (sp) as possible.) If they don't

get to the point soon enough for me, I tend to get bored and just skim the

text, hoping that the relevant bits will jump out at me.

> I would really like it if people would state the theme of their little

> stories at the outset, like say, 'Sally shot her teacher' first and then

> tell the story, but I guess they want to build up suspense.

This indicates being a whole-to-parts learner. Then need a summaric overview

first and the details later (or not at all). :-)

My best friend has this annoying habit of FIRST qualifying her statements

with endless explanations of how she go to the conclusion in question and

what she really means or does NOT mean by it, BEFORE getting to the point.

All-the-while I'm sitting there jumping up and down with impatience and

going " yes, yes, now please just TELL ME! "

My Aspie ex-assistant also has a habit of not being able to summarise at

all. If he wishes to tell me he's not going to Tibet after all, he can't

just say that, but has to explain every single little detail about how the

agency misplaced his advance payment and didn't find it until all the seats

were already booked - all in chronological order just as it happened, which

may take half an hour or more.

Inger

> > >

> > > " All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem to

> talk

> > > over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous and

I

> > > cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

> > > conversations if they are all talking at once? "

> >

> > I don't like it when people interrupt and talk at the same time

but

> I

> > have the problem here of people talking too slowly and going on

and

> on,

> > explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, like if

> someone

> > is going to tell me who they saw working as cashier in the store,

> why

> > can't they just say, " Judy " . No, instead they do this: " I

> went to

> > the store, you know, the grocery store, and was going to go

> shopping.

> > So I got a shopping cart and tooled down each aisle, picking out

> what I

> > wanted until I got to the cashier-- " and I interrupt before they

> get

> > THAT far with " WHO is the cashier?! " It's so frustrating, my mind

> moves

> > quickly and I don't want to be told superfluous details that I

> already

> > know. Also I come from a part of the country where people talk

> quickly

> > and get to the point and conversation is give and take, not

> listening

> > to a long diatribe 2-3 minutes long! But then, I could never make

> it in

> > New York City with the quick intense way they converse, so I try

to

> be

> > patient. But it is agonizingly difficult!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:35:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

That sounds like my mum too :-) She will even get my brother and my name mixed up (and she only has two children). She expects me to some how magically know what she is talking about. She will tell me lots of stuff - whilst leaving out important details - she doesn't always finish what she is talking about, but will go off on a tangent (I have some of these faults myself though). I can get very frustrated sometimes though when there is no point to her story - no particular thoughts, no summing up - no obvious conclusion, no relevance - it confuses me.

That reminds me of something else. My mother will often change topics in the middle of a sentence, sometimes more than once. That is really confusing.

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In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:37:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I would have likely been marked down in college if I tried to pull something like that.

As would I have. He should have stated his points at the beginning in a little less detail and then had a chapter focus on each separate point, like the number of tank losses (Destroyed and recoverable) on each side, one chapter on the Germans and another on the Russians. Other chapters probably should have dealt with tactics of the two sides, logistics and other things.

I thought it was an interesting premise though. The real problem the Germans faced was that the Tiger and Panther tanks were very new and still had bugs in the works that hadn't yet been solved. Because of that, many of them broke down and never got near the fighting. Had they been reliable, things might have gone even worse for the Russians.

Well, I should say the greatest problem was Hitler. He delayed the operation so long that the Russians had plenty of time to prepare. He should have pulled back the lines on either side of the Kursk salient and flattened that bulge thusly, rather than attacking it. This would have saved a lot of soldiers and gear for further fighting and would have reversed the tables, putting the Germans in position to absorb the Russian offensive and counter-strike it, which is what in fact the Russians did to the Germans.

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In a message dated 1/20/2006 2:37:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I would have likely been marked down in college if I tried to pull something like that.

As would I have. He should have stated his points at the beginning in a little less detail and then had a chapter focus on each separate point, like the number of tank losses (Destroyed and recoverable) on each side, one chapter on the Germans and another on the Russians. Other chapters probably should have dealt with tactics of the two sides, logistics and other things.

I thought it was an interesting premise though. The real problem the Germans faced was that the Tiger and Panther tanks were very new and still had bugs in the works that hadn't yet been solved. Because of that, many of them broke down and never got near the fighting. Had they been reliable, things might have gone even worse for the Russians.

Well, I should say the greatest problem was Hitler. He delayed the operation so long that the Russians had plenty of time to prepare. He should have pulled back the lines on either side of the Kursk salient and flattened that bulge thusly, rather than attacking it. This would have saved a lot of soldiers and gear for further fighting and would have reversed the tables, putting the Germans in position to absorb the Russian offensive and counter-strike it, which is what in fact the Russians did to the Germans.

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" My mother is famous for doing this. She will say things that seem

to have nothing to do with anything and when I ask her what she means

she gets a bit testy. She also loves to use " thing " and " corner " ,

etc. to try to tell me where to find things. Today we were at the

grocery walking down the freezer aisle when she says to get a

package of the things. What things I ask. The thing-a-ma-jiggers I

like, she says. OK, here's a whole aisle of stuff and I have no idea

what she means. Finally she gets it herself. "

That sounds like my mum too :-) She will even get my brother and my

name mixed up (and she only has two children). She expects me to some

how magically know what she is talking about. She will tell me lots

of stuff - whilst leaving out important details - she doesn't always

finish what she is talking about, but will go off on a tangent (I

have some of these faults myself though). I can get very frustrated

sometimes though when there is no point to her story - no particular

thoughts, no summing up - no obvious conclusion, no relevance - it

confuses me.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/19/2006 1:59:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> julie.stevenson16@n... writes:

>

> Interesting - I do know what you mean though; but sometimes people

> leave out what I would consider important details and yet cover a

> load of irrelevant stuff. I have sometimes a tendency to say 'and

the

> point is?' or 'get to the point' also 'stop going around the

houses' -

> other times I just let them ramble on and see if I can make some

> semblance of it all; depends what mood I am in :-)

>

>

>

>

>

> My mother is famous for doing this. She will say things that seem

to have

> nothing to do with anything and when I ask her what she means she

gets a bit

> testy. She also loves to use " thing " and " corner " , etc. to try to

tell me where

> to find things. Today we were at the grocery walking down the

freezer aisle

> when she says to get a package of the things. What things I ask.

The

> thing-a-ma-jiggers I like, she says. OK, here's a whole aisle of

stuff and I have no

> idea what she means. Finally she gets it herself.

>

> Its like talking to the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland. The

caterpillar

> (I think that is the right critter) would say that words meant what

it wanted

> them to so it wasn't its fault that Alice couldn't understand what

it meant.

> My mother is like that. She will often say that she knows what she

means.

> That may be so, but it doesn't help me because I don't have a clue

what she

> means.

>

> And she wonders why I don't pay that much attention to her.

>

>

>

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" My mother is famous for doing this. She will say things that seem

to have nothing to do with anything and when I ask her what she means

she gets a bit testy. She also loves to use " thing " and " corner " ,

etc. to try to tell me where to find things. Today we were at the

grocery walking down the freezer aisle when she says to get a

package of the things. What things I ask. The thing-a-ma-jiggers I

like, she says. OK, here's a whole aisle of stuff and I have no idea

what she means. Finally she gets it herself. "

That sounds like my mum too :-) She will even get my brother and my

name mixed up (and she only has two children). She expects me to some

how magically know what she is talking about. She will tell me lots

of stuff - whilst leaving out important details - she doesn't always

finish what she is talking about, but will go off on a tangent (I

have some of these faults myself though). I can get very frustrated

sometimes though when there is no point to her story - no particular

thoughts, no summing up - no obvious conclusion, no relevance - it

confuses me.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/19/2006 1:59:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> julie.stevenson16@n... writes:

>

> Interesting - I do know what you mean though; but sometimes people

> leave out what I would consider important details and yet cover a

> load of irrelevant stuff. I have sometimes a tendency to say 'and

the

> point is?' or 'get to the point' also 'stop going around the

houses' -

> other times I just let them ramble on and see if I can make some

> semblance of it all; depends what mood I am in :-)

>

>

>

>

>

> My mother is famous for doing this. She will say things that seem

to have

> nothing to do with anything and when I ask her what she means she

gets a bit

> testy. She also loves to use " thing " and " corner " , etc. to try to

tell me where

> to find things. Today we were at the grocery walking down the

freezer aisle

> when she says to get a package of the things. What things I ask.

The

> thing-a-ma-jiggers I like, she says. OK, here's a whole aisle of

stuff and I have no

> idea what she means. Finally she gets it herself.

>

> Its like talking to the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland. The

caterpillar

> (I think that is the right critter) would say that words meant what

it wanted

> them to so it wasn't its fault that Alice couldn't understand what

it meant.

> My mother is like that. She will often say that she knows what she

means.

> That may be so, but it doesn't help me because I don't have a clue

what she

> means.

>

> And she wonders why I don't pay that much attention to her.

>

>

>

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" It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and

proved his point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept

saying the same thing over and over again. "

I would have likely been marked down in college if I tried to pull

something like that.

When writing essays - one started with a statement and then provided

evidence as to why one had made that statement and end with a

conclusion/summing up and of course sources for the information - but

if I had of kept reiterating the same point over and over again

without any new evidence or thoughts (in otherwords just slight re-

wording) that would have been viewed as just trying to make more

words up and would be marked down.

>

>

> In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:15:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> inglori@s... writes:

>

> LOL! This is what happens to me when I read non-fiction. I really

want them

> just to get to the friggin point already and quit wasting my time

with

> irrelevant details and a lot of bla bla bla that's just filling to

make it a

> book rather than an article. Not wishing to insult, just stating a

fact, I

> do find American writers to often be unnecessarily verbose. (When

I write

> something myself, I try to be as succinct (sp) as possible.) If

they don't

> get to the point soon enough for me, I tend to get bored and just

skim the

> text, hoping that the relevant bits will jump out at me.

>

>

>

> There has been a lot of non-fiction that has really bored me to

tears. There

> was one book I read about the Battle Of Kursk that said to an

extent it was

> a German victory, but one that they could not follow up on. The

author made

> the point that most Germans tanks were only damaged and not

destroyed, while

> most Soviet tanks were destroyed and unrecoverable. He used tables

and

> maintenance records and other primary sources to come to this

conclusion.

>

> It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and

proved his

> point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept saying the

same thing over

> and over again. I gave up about a quarter of the way through and

then just

> looked over the charts and tables in the book to follow up.

>

> There have been plenty of others that were just as bad, especially

in

> college. I don't see why these writers can't take a few creative

writing classes so

> that they can present their work in a more readable fashion.

>

>

>

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" It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and proved

his

> point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept saying the same

thing over

> and over again. "

Sounds like he just wanted to be able to write a book for the sake of

writing one.

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" It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and proved

his

> point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept saying the same

thing over

> and over again. "

Sounds like he just wanted to be able to write a book for the sake of

writing one.

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>"It seemed like an interesting book, but he basically stated and proved his > point in the first 10 pages. After that he just kept saying the same thing over > and over again."Sounds like he just wanted to be able to write a book for the sake of writing one.

.... or someone on sabbatical or who received grant funding and/or "release time" to write the book ....

Amy

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> > > >

> > > > " All I wanted to say is that in RL I have noticed people seem

to

> > talk

> > > > over one another all the time - I think this is discorteous

and

> I

> > > > cannot understand how they stand it - how can anyone follow

> > > > conversations if they are all talking at once? "

> > >

> > > I don't like it when people interrupt and talk at the same time

> but

> > I

> > > have the problem here of people talking too slowly and going on

> and

> > on,

> > > explaining something that doesn't need to be explained, like if

> > someone

> > > is going to tell me who they saw working as cashier in the

store,

> > why

> > > can't they just say, " Judy " . No, instead they do this: " I

> > went to

> > > the store, you know, the grocery store, and was going to go

> > shopping.

> > > So I got a shopping cart and tooled down each aisle, picking out

> > what I

> > > wanted until I got to the cashier-- " and I interrupt before they

> > get

> > > THAT far with " WHO is the cashier?! " It's so frustrating, my

mind

> > moves

> > > quickly and I don't want to be told superfluous details that I

> > already

> > > know. Also I come from a part of the country where people talk

> > quickly

> > > and get to the point and conversation is give and take, not

> > listening

> > > to a long diatribe 2-3 minutes long! But then, I could never

make

> > it in

> > > New York City with the quick intense way they converse, so I try

> to

> > be

> > > patient. But it is agonizingly difficult!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I know that this is off sobject for the group but we found out that my son has

Asperger's syndrome (form of atisum) Does anyone know of any good sites or group

I can go to? Or does anyone hear know of someone with this syndrome? I am trying

to absorb myself in infomation. He starts a new school where they can help him

and I'm sure I will also get lots more info there too. For so mant years we

weren't sure what was going on, bipolar disorded, ADHD , behavioral problem

(says his schools) my son is not a behavioral problem!. Anyways, he was treated

for so many things and did not respond to any of them. One medication caused him

to gain over 25lbs, what a waste of time and risk on his health. I glad to

finally have an answer but don't really know what to do. I mean Im real good

with him and have found my own ways to help him and no one else can. Anyways,

any information would be great.

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I am so sorry to hear about your son! But what a relief i must be to finally have an answer. I don't know a lot about AS, but I do know that it is one of that fastest-growing disorders there is right now. McCarthy, the actress, has a son, Evan, who is autistic and she is doing a great deal of research on autism and AS. I believe she and Jim Carey have a reasearch foundation. She believes that childhood vaccinations may be a large part of the problem.

I am sure there is a lot of info on the web. There is an Asperger's website, http://www.aspergers.com/ that looks to have some good information. I wish you and your son the best.

Take care~

Sheri

From: noonan.jenny <noonan.jenny@...>Subject: Asperger's Syndrome Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 8:44 PM

I know that this is off sobject for the group but we found out that my son has Asperger's syndrome (form of atisum) Does anyone know of any good sites or group I can go to? Or does anyone hear know of someone with this syndrome? I am trying to absorb myself in infomation. He starts a new school where they can help him and I'm sure I will also get lots more info there too. For so mant years we weren't sure what was going on, bipolar disorded, ADHD , behavioral problem (says his schools) my son is not a behavioral problem!. Anyways, he was treated for so many things and did not respond to any of them. One medication caused him to gain over 25lbs, what a waste of time and risk on his health. I glad to finally have an answer but don't really know what to do. I mean Im real good with him and have found my own ways to help him and no one else can. Anyways, any information would be great.

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I am so sorry for the frustration that you have been through with your child. There is no perfect test that says we are positive that this child has this or that. Unfortunately for you and your child he was given a lot of labels and meds it sounds like. I am glad that you kept looking until your found out what it was that he truly has.

After working in the public school system for many years I see and hear your frustration. I honestly would check with some local psychologist or school psychologist and ask about support groups--local and state wide for Asperger's, check for web sites and information that they may have that could help you. Check out your local library and see if they have new or current books on Asperger's. Are they any local child centers that treat children with Asperger's? Check out things on line--be careful if they want you to pay something to join, most should be there for free support for you. I know you want to educate yourself now to be able to help your son and I commend you for doing this. Start local and check also with the Dept of Health in your State too. You will be amazed at the information you can find, once you start looking for it. , you sound like such a loving and caring Mom, glad you asked for help from any of us. Keep us posted, and we wish you nothing but success.

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 04/01/09 06:30:49 Pacific Daylight Time, noonan.jenny@... writes:

I know that this is off sobject for the group but we found out that my son has Asperger's syndrome (form of atisum) Does anyone know of any good sites or group I can go to? Or does anyone hear know of someone with this syndrome? I am trying to absorb myself in infomation. He starts a new school where they can help him and I'm sure I will also get lots more info there too. For so mant years we weren't sure what was going on, bipolar disorded, ADHD , behavioral problem (says his schools) my son is not a behavioral problem!. Anyways, he was treated for so many things and did not respond to any of them. One medication caused him to gain over 25lbs, what a waste of time and risk on his health. I glad to finally have an answer but don't really know what to do. I mean Im real good with him and have found my own ways to help him and no one else can. Anyways, any information would be great.

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My 21 yr old step son was diagnosed with AS when he was 7, he will graduate from UPS with a double major next year. He had accommodations all during junior high and high school to give him extra time to get papers/projects done, extra time to take tests as he was not able to learn from verbal instruction well. He did overcome a lot of his problems with balance, reading peoples facial gestures, understanding double meanings with therapy. He does take Ritalin to help with his concentration, but not daily. You can e-mail me privately and i will send you some links and my husbands experience of raising him, the pitfalls and triumphs.

From: noonan.jenny <noonan.jenny>Subject: [Dr-Aceves-bandster s] Asperger's Syndrome @groups. comDate: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 8:44 PM

I know that this is off sobject for the group but we found out that my son has Asperger's syndrome (form of atisum) Does anyone know of any good sites or group I can go to? Or does anyone hear know of someone with this syndrome? I am trying to absorb myself in infomation. He starts a new school where they can help him and I'm sure I will also get lots more info there too. For so mant years we weren't sure what was going on, bipolar disorded, ADHD , behavioral problem (says his schools) my son is not a behavioral problem!. Anyways, he was treated for so many things and did not respond to any of them. One medication caused him to gain over 25lbs, what a waste of time and risk on his health. I glad to finally have an answer but don't really know what to do. I mean Im real good with him and have found my own ways to help him and no one else can. Anyways, any information would be

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