Vitamins?

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In a message dated 6/11/2007 7:35:48 PM Central Standard Time,

djkrug@... writes:

sorry, I didn't realize that TNI was a taboo subject. I wasn't

promoting anything, I just have an interest in finding out about it.

I don't remember reading that it was not okay to talk about on the

initial sign up etiquette. My mistake.

Is it ok to talk about vitamins and if anyone uses them though?

my baby is only 2 months old, and I have a lot to learn; so if anyone

does anything specific for nutrition (including vitamins) I would be

very interested in what you have to say. You can email me off list too.

Thanks,

~Darla

HI Darla

Its OK I too the first time I posted asked about the same stuff lol was told

quickly that we really didn't discuss this stuff because of difference of

strong opinions, it's very controversial. I witnessed a lot of ugliness on a

public list about these topics so I totally understand why we avoid this. But I

will add Sara is 15 yrs old and we didn't do any of the vitamins or TNI or

anything else. Her DR did not recommend it and I trust him completely

Kathy mom to Sara 15

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[Guest guest]

We like using a food base liquid multi vitamin that we

get at whole foods.

B

--- verbladie <djkrug@...> wrote:

> sorry, I didn't realize that TNI was a taboo

> subject. I wasn't

> promoting anything, I just have an interest in

> finding out about it.

> I don't remember reading that it was not okay to

> talk about on the

> initial sign up etiquette. My mistake.

> Is it ok to talk about vitamins and if anyone uses

> them though?

> my baby is only 2 months old, and I have a lot to

> learn; so if anyone

> does anything specific for nutrition (including

> vitamins) I would be

> very interested in what you have to say. You can

> email me off list too.

>

> Thanks,

>

> ~Darla

>

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list.

> Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of

> the message.

>

[Guest guest]

I take them with no problems, however you may wish to check with your

doc before taking them.

>

> Does anyone know if its ok to take Vitamin C, B6 and B12 while

taking

> 125mcg of thyroxine?

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Yes fine – but…………….taking

just B12 and B6 is not good. B vitamins need to be taken as a complex

otherwise you will cause deficiencies in the other B’s in the group.

If you have been told you are low on B12 and B6 then

you can take the complex B and then add the B12 and B6 as a therapeutic dose

until your levels get high enough.

The dosage for the B vitamins is dependent on which B

we are talking about as they have such varying functions including panthotenic

acid which is B5 which is vital for the adrenal glands.

It is the anti depression vitamin, the vitamin for

digestion, the vitamin for the hair and skin etc .etc. – see below –

also be aware the B depletes Vitamin C eventually so you are wise to take

vitamin C as well.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

P.S. As for asking your GP for advice – I am

very sorry to have to say that most of them without exception know absolutely

nothing about the science of nutrition!

All vitamin B-Complex group are water

soluble, and are linked together in several chemical ways. They are formed from

either bacteria, yeast's, fungi, or moulds.

They are responsible for

providing energy to the body during the conversion of glucose, from

carbohydrates. They are also critically required for the metabolism of both

fats and proteins, as well as the health and maintenance of the body's nervous

system.

Vitamin B-1 Thiamine

Necessary for proper metabolism of

sugar and starch to provide energy. Maintains a healthy nervous system as well

as aiding proper function of the heart and other muscles. Stress increases the

need for B-1 and all B

vitamins.

Found in Brewer's yeast, wheat germ, oatmeal,

whole wheat, bran, whole brown rice, black strap molasses, soybeans, and

meats.

Effective with B-Complex, B-2, Folic Acid,

Niacin, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Manganese.

Alcohol interferes with the absorption of this

water based vitamin.

Vitamin B-2 Riboflavin

Critical in the metabolism of

carbohydrates, fats and proteins. Needed in the repair of the nails, skin and

hair.

If you are looking to produce a higher level of

energy in the body, Vitamin B2 is the one of the more important nutrients. If

you exercise every day, you are using up your vitamin B2 supply.

Cheese and milk are the best dietary sources of

this vitamin, also green vegetables and whole grains.

Vitamin B-3 Niacin

Required for the synthesis of sex

hormones, as well as being vital to the nervous system. It also aids

circulation, and reduces serum cholesterol.

Because niacin dilates the blood vessels, many

people taking this supplement regularly report the heat sensation and redness,

commonly occurring in the area of the face.

The average daily dosage for adults is

approximately 15 mg. Fish and chicken are good natural sources.

Vitamin B-6 Pyridoxine

Involved in the metabolism of fats,

especially the unsaturated fatty acids.

Required by many amino acids for

their metabolism, and also aids in the production of hydrochloric acid.

This vitamin must be present for the production

of both red blood cells, and also antibodies. It plays an important role in the

body's immune system

B6 relieves a wide variety of PMS symptoms, such

as breast tenderness, weight gain (water retention) and irritability. This very

important vitamin has also been shown to be helpful in reducing or eliminating

symptoms of nervous tremors and epileptic seizures.

Whole grains are a good source of this vitamin.

Vitamin B-12

Essential for the correct

functioning of all cells, especially bone marrow and nervous tissue, it is also

required for red blood cell formation.

Necessary for normal digestion, absorption of foods,

proteins synthesis and carbohydrate and fat metabolism.

Found in liver, kidney, meats, fish, dairy

products and eggs.

Biotin

Required in the formation of

glycogen, and is also essential in the making of fatty acids. Biotin, found as

an ingredient in many of today's shampoos and hair conditioners, is said to

repair damaged hair and keep hair healthy. Can be found in Brewer's yeast and

nuts.

Choline

Choline is an active factor in

lecithin, and aids in the metabolism of fats.

Helps lower cholesterol,

transferring nerve impulse to the brain, helps against memory loss and senile

dementia, aids the liver in removing poisons and drugs from the bloodstream.

Found in egg yolk, milk, meat, legumes and whole

grains.

Pantothenic Acid

Has an enhancing effect upon the

adrenal glands, and is often taken during stressful conditions. It is also

necessary during metabolism of fats, carbohydrates and proteins. Helps form

certain hormones and antibodies.

Needed for maintenance of healthy digestive

tract, skin, nerves and glands. Found in organ meats, brewer's yeast, egg yolk,

whole grain cereal, chicken, bran, and nuts.

Folic acid

Is active in the most basic life

process that we know, the synthesis of the building blocks of life, DNA. People

found to have various types of pre cancerous cells have also been found folic

acid deficient. Other symptoms of too little folic acid are slowed metabolism,

constipation, and tiredness at inappropriate times of the day.

Pregnant women are wise to ensure that intake of

folic acid is adequately maintained, as it has been clinically proven to reduce

birth defects, including Down's Syndrome.

People of all ages, from pregnant women to

elderly men, are apparently deficient in the essential substance. Good sources

to obtain the needed 400 to 600 mg. daily are broccoli and spinach.

Because the B

complex group of vitamins work with each other, it is worth making sure that

they are taken at the same time.

[Guest guest]

Does Dr Aceves recommend a specific vitamin regiment? I've emailed Gaby twice but she's not responded.

[Guest guest]

I think it is up to you as to what kind of multivitamin you can take. At first I took a liquid vitamin because I couldn't think about swallowing the big horse pill. Now I use Centrum Chewables for adults and they work great for me.

You do need to take some kind of multivitamin.

Suzanne

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I don't remember if he does or not.  My surgery was 2 years ago so i don't remember.  i have my own vit routine but it is what i have learned from vit experts and from my own labs.  I take 50,000 IUs of Vit D once a week.  I used to take 2,000 IUs three times daily and I HATE taking pills, HATE it.  So taking a mega dose weekly saves me 20 tablets a week.  I take Centrum or Centrum Silver (whichever is cheapest) twice daily  I take calcium citrate 500mg x4 daily.  I have esophageal damage from when i was banded and so i have horrific reflux.  We had hoped removing the band would fix it but it didn't so i take mega doses of PPIs and that prevents some calcium absorption thus the higher dose of calcium citrate.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:14 PM, <ohscrap@...> wrote:

 

Does Dr Aceves recommend a specific vitamin regiment? I've emailed Gaby twice but she's not responded.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much!!! =D~

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Bipley <Bipley@...> wrote:

 

I don't remember if he does or not.  My surgery was 2 years ago so i don't remember.  i have my own vit routine but it is what i have learned from vit experts and from my own labs.  I take 50,000 IUs of Vit D once a week.  I used to take 2,000 IUs three times daily and I HATE taking pills, HATE it.  So taking a mega dose weekly saves me 20 tablets a week.  I take Centrum or Centrum Silver (whichever is cheapest) twice daily  I take calcium citrate 500mg x4 daily.  I have esophageal damage from when i was banded and so i have horrific reflux.  We had hoped removing the band would fix it but it didn't so i take mega doses of PPIs and that prevents some calcium absorption thus the higher dose of calcium citrate.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:14 PM, <ohscrap@...> wrote:

 

Does Dr Aceves recommend a specific vitamin regiment? I've emailed Gaby twice but she's not responded.

[Guest guest]

At first, I took some adult gummy vitamins I found at Costco. They also have

chewable chocolate calcium squares. Now that I'm at the 30 day mark, I think

I'll move on to more adult supplements....

deb

>

> I think it is up to you as to what kind of multivitamin you can take. At

> first I took a liquid vitamin because I couldn't think about swallowing the

> big horse pill. Now I use Centrum Chewables for adults and they work great

> for me.

>

> You do need to take some kind of multivitamin.

>

> Suzanne

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you find liquid vitamins? I looked at Costco yesterday and found none.~http://mwlj2010.blogspot.com/

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:31 AM, <SuzanneSH@...> wrote:

 

No, I couldn't that is why I used a liquid vitamin.  I think each person may be different.

 

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

I have been taking Centrum Performance twice a day, 1 in the morning and one in

the evening. This is the Performance version of Centum, not the normal. It is

the one made for athletes and it mas more vitamins. Walgreen's has a cheaper

generic version of it.

When I first started I took a sublingual B-12 because I was told that

people who have this surgery usually suffer a deficiency of this. This is kind

of funny, when I had my internest check my vitamin levels for the first time a

year after the surgery he found that my Vitamin B-12 levels were over 8 times

that of a normal individual! So he ordered me to quit taking vitamin B-12. The

only vitamin I had a deficiency in was Vitamin D-3 (That is kind of strange too

since that vitamin comes from the sun and i live in the Phoenix, Arizona area,

one thing we have is lots and lots of sunshine!). My internest did put me on

1000 i.u.'s of vitamin d-3. I also use Citracal plus Magnesium calcium

supplement. People that go through bariatric surgery often have issues with

osteoporosis in later life so I am trying to prevent that when I am still young!

(Well I guess I am not young, I am 39 years old...LOL but hopefuly that will

prevent me from getting osteoporosis in later life!)

>

> Does Dr Aceves recommend a specific vitamin regiment? I've emailed Gaby

> twice but she's not responded.

>

[Guest guest]

Most people regardless of location are low in D3.  I will bet that 100% of obese people are low on Vit D3.  They have changed the new normals for D3 labs.  It used to be thought that anything over 30 was normal.  Not so, today you want to shoot for labs that are between 80-100.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Jon <jonbeaupain@...> wrote:

 

I have been taking Centrum Performance twice a day, 1 in the morning and one in the evening. This is the Performance version of Centum, not the normal. It is the one made for athletes and it mas more vitamins. Walgreen's has a cheaper generic version of it.

When I first started I took a sublingual B-12 because I was told that people who have this surgery usually suffer a deficiency of this. This is kind of funny, when I had my internest check my vitamin levels for the first time a year after the surgery he found that my Vitamin B-12 levels were over 8 times that of a normal individual! So he ordered me to quit taking vitamin B-12. The only vitamin I had a deficiency in was Vitamin D-3 (That is kind of strange too since that vitamin comes from the sun and i live in the Phoenix, Arizona area, one thing we have is lots and lots of sunshine!). My internest did put me on 1000 i.u.'s of vitamin d-3. I also use Citracal plus Magnesium calcium supplement. People that go through bariatric surgery often have issues with osteoporosis in later life so I am trying to prevent that when I am still young! (Well I guess I am not young, I am 39 years old...LOL but hopefuly that will prevent me from getting osteoporosis in later life!)

>

> Does Dr Aceves recommend a specific vitamin regiment? I've emailed Gaby

> twice but she's not responded.

>

[Guest guest]

I bought mine on line at Costco. Also check some Health Food Stores in your area and see if they have any liquid vitamins.

Suzanne

In a message dated 6/11/2010 7:25:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ohscrap@... writes:

Where do you find liquid vitamins? I looked at Costco yesterday and found none.~http://mwlj2010.blogspot.com/

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:31 AM, <SuzanneSHaol> wrote:

No, I couldn't that is why I used a liquid vitamin. I think each person may be different.

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

I use Isotonix vitamins. They are a powder and I mix them with water. I LOVE them, so easy to take in the morning. Even when my band is wayyy to tight, I can still get my vitamins in, which is so important during those times!! I order them from http://www.marketamerica.com/youarebeautiful This is a wonderful gal and I LOVE these products. I take OPC-3, Multi-Tech, Vit B. Check out the website and feel free to call or email Neva with your questions. She has a lot of knowledge about vitamins. Let me know if you need more info from me.CyrenaDOBand:1/19/07240/135/150start/now/goalSize 20 to 4!From: <ohscrap@...> Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 9:13:31 AMSubject: Re: Vitamins?

Where do you find liquid vitamins? I looked at Costco yesterday and found none.~

[Guest guest]

Thanks, off to check out the website now.~http://mwlj2010.blogspot.com/

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks@...> wrote:

 

I use Isotonix vitamins. They are a powder and I mix them with water.  I LOVE them, so easy to take in the morning.  Even when my band is wayyy to tight, I can still get my vitamins in, which is so important during those times!! I order them from http://www.marketamerica.com/youarebeautiful This is a wonderful gal and I LOVE these products.  I take OPC-3, Multi-Tech, Vit B.  Check out the website and feel free to call or email Neva with your questions. She has a lot of knowledge about vitamins.  Let me know if you need more info from me.

CyrenaDOBand:1/19/07240/135/150start/now/goalSize 20 to 4!

From: <ohscrap@...>

Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 9:13:31 AMSubject: Re: Vitamins?

 

Where do you find liquid vitamins? I looked at Costco yesterday and found none.~