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And tim, who walked relatively early has at best average, probably less,

academic ability and very poor speech and language skills, but remains

fairly able in his gross motor skills.

sue wong

Re: Walking

> It is so true that age of walking has nothing to do with cognitive

> development. was much slower with sitting up and walking than

with many

> other things. Before he sat up he would lie on his stomach and turn the

> pages of a book with his thumb. Actually hold the pages back with his

thumb and

> release them one at a time. He read words on cards before he walked.

> He walked around things for a long time and took a step or two

between

> people but didn't seem to have any idea about really walking. Then one

day

> he stood up in the middle of the floor and walked away. You just never

know.

> Like any kids, ours can surprise you. Jessie

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Thanks so much to everyone who's offered input on when kids walk. I know, of

course, that Abbie will walk when she's ready to walk. I guess I'm just in the

habit of connecting walking with being about a year old, although I know it may

be another year before she takes off. It's just hard sometimes seeing other

babies her age doing things she's still far from managing. Little by little,

though, we seem to be forgetting her actual age and just being happy with her

accomplishments. It's a new ball game not to be crowing, " She's doing XYZ and

she's only X months old " like it might be some kind of reflection on us as her

successful family. It's about people being who they are and who says normal is

normal? It's about everyone being individual and special. I have learned a lot

in Abbie's first year. What a darling child she is. How could we have thought it

was a catastrophe when she was born with DS? It's just part of who she is, and

" who she is " is the most special, unique, beautiful, beloved little person ever

to walk on earth. Or crawl. Whatever. (She crawls, but with her belly on the

floor, looks like she's swimming but she moves pretty fast!)

Ellie in Western land

" If I am at these vines picking these berries,

I can't be at those vines picking those. Who

cares, if the bucket is full? "

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Ellie wrote:

>It's a new ball game not to be crowing, " She's doing XYZ and she's only X

months old " like it might be some kind of reflection on us as her successful

family.

>

I can still remember that feeling, when was a baby and

toddler. I really had to stop thinking about what " normal " timelines

were, except when was " meeting " them (then, of course, we were

extra thrilled). The good news is, once the " baby " milestones pass

(where everyone " crows " ), you have a period without as much " comparison "

(until school starts) LOL!

did many things on the " normal " baby timeline (especially

talking, which was wonderful!), others a little slower, but walking

seemed to take forever! She was cruising along furniture, pushing a

Little Tykes shopping cart (loaded down with stuff so she didn't pull it

over) FOREVER it seemed like, and the PT kept saying " wow, she's doing

great, she should be walking within a month " ........ that started about

16 months, and the PT was still saying it the day she walked, and about

26 months. Although she had all the gross motor skills she needed, she

(apparently) lacked the confidence to " let go " . Of course, not walking

didn't stop her from climbing on playsets, sliding on slides, etc.....

she loved those activities and was very strong, and couldn't care less

that at probably about 18-20 months, she was following 9crawling really

fast) big sis around at the playground. I really wanted her to walk

too, since our 3rd daughter was born when was 20 months

old...... for 6+ months I was carring both of them around....... I was

about ready to believe the Sammie would walk first because I knew she

would be an early walker, but beat her by a couple months!

You seem to have a great balance between wanting Abbie to do the things

that babies do (which we all want), and understanding that it will be

when she decides to do things (and she sounds like she is doing

great!). I think walking was the hardest thing to wait for, just

because (especially as got older) we got more " looks " like

" why isn't that big kid walking yet " . I can't wait for your post the

day Abbie takes her first independent steps!

, mom to (8), (6 DS), and (4)

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Thats great, I am doing the happy dance for you! I am going to incorporate that

into my next challenge.

Lammail <lammail2003@...> wrote:I have added an hour of walking a day this

week and the scale dropped 4 lbs. in four days..... 's doing the happy

dance!

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WOW! - that's a great whoosh!

I am making a concerted effort to add plain-old-walking to my daily

routine, as I am very sedentary (aside from my BFL workouts). Hopefully, I

will have the same results! Do you walk outside or on the treadmill? I

am thinking of walking on the treadmill, as I'd like to be able to read

while I walk......

n

At 03:22 PM 10/7/2005, you wrote:

>I have added an hour of walking a day this week and the scale dropped 4

>lbs. in four days....

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To Amber - why wait until your next challenge? I made a conscous

decision that when I am on the phone I can be walking instead of

sitting. Since the weather has cooled down I get fresh air by

walking around the apartment complex. When it is warm during the day

and they fixed the air in the gym I take my radio in there and just

walk the carpet.

My husband has longer drives and I was irritated about my progress.

So we talk alot on the phone while he is on the road.

I am actually getting in two hours of exercise which is giving me the

results I need on the scale.

n, the treadmil doesn't have a tv and instead of me having the

mirror right infront of me I would rather walk the room.... and enjoy

outsides good weather. A change of pace for a little while.

> >I have added an hour of walking a day this week and the scale

dropped 4

> >lbs. in four days....

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! Congratulations on the 4 pound whoosh! That's great!

I've walked 30-90 minutes a day for years and years and I swear the

walking plays a huge role in staying lean and in the number of

calories I'm able to eat. I looked up the calorie burn for my walks

and it means an extra 160-479 calories a day. That's 1120-3353

calories a week either added onto my deficit or bonus food that I get

to eat! No matter what else I do with my weight training, martial

arts, or HIIT cardio, the walks never change. I'd encourage anybody

who's stalled or disappointed with their progress to take a look at

walking or other ways to increase your normal daily activity level. It

can make a huge difference.

On 10/7/05, Lammail <lammail2003@...> wrote:

> I have added an hour of walking a day this week and the scale dropped 4 lbs.

in four days..... 's doing the happy dance!

>

>

> **~~W~~**

>

> Work hard ~~Play harder

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Wow! I am impressed. When do you fit that in? Is that when you

walk your dogs? I used to diligently take my daughter and dog for a

walk every night, we were doing an hour or so every time. Then I

started running again too, and before I knew it I had plantar

fascitis. Now I'm afraid to do too much walking for fear it will

impact my running (which is only 3 times a week).

What a dumb reason! Do you have any shoes you recommend for walking?

Diane

>

> ! Congratulations on the 4 pound whoosh! That's great!

>

> I've walked 30-90 minutes a day for years and years and I swear the

> walking plays a huge role in staying lean and in the number of

> calories I'm able to eat. I looked up the calorie burn for my walks

> and it means an extra 160-479 calories a day. That's 1120-3353

> calories a week either added onto my deficit or bonus food that I

get

> to eat! No matter what else I do with my weight training, martial

> arts, or HIIT cardio, the walks never change. I'd encourage anybody

> who's stalled or disappointed with their progress to take a look at

> walking or other ways to increase your normal daily activity

level. It

> can make a huge difference.

>

>

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The walk is the first thing I do when I wake up, before I have any

time at all to think about it. One minute I'm asleep, and the next

minute the three dogs are pulling me down the sidewalk. If I thought

about it I probably wouldn't do it, but once I'm out there I love that

time to myself. I use it to daydream, plan the rest of my day, sort

out problems, answer e-mails, review martial arts stuff, think about

articles. My walk is the time of day when I get my head together. I

really miss it on the rare days when I don't go.

I work an evening shift, so I do both my walk and my workout early in

the day. Usually the walk at 7:00am and the gym at 10:00 or 11:00. If

I worked a regular shift, I might do one before work and one after, or

maybe both after. I wouldn't call myself a morning person, even though

I'm usually out there before the sun comes up. :-)

I go through a lot of walking shoes and I don't really have any brand

loyalty. I do tend to buy a lot of Avia and Reebok walking shoes, and

Nike run/walks are great too. Sometimes the dogs take off after a cat

or something and I find myself sprinting on my " walk " . It's nice to

have a shoe that's designed for both. Running in walking shoes is a

biomechanical disaster. You can always walk in a running shoe though,

even though it doesn't provide as much cushion or roll as something

specifically for walking.

On 10/7/05, Diane <dmiller91@...> wrote:

>

> Wow! I am impressed. When do you fit that in? Is that when you

> walk your dogs? I used to diligently take my daughter and dog for a

> walk every night, we were doing an hour or so every time. Then I

> started running again too, and before I knew it I had plantar

> fascitis. Now I'm afraid to do too much walking for fear it will

> impact my running (which is only 3 times a week).

>

> What a dumb reason! Do you have any shoes you recommend for walking?

>

> Diane

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How do you know when it's time for new walking or running shoes? I

know " the experts " (who I'm sure are paid off by the shoe mfrs), say

to replace running shoes every 6 months. Of course that depends on

how many miles one puts on them, but still. I wear mine every day

to workout in and play in (bicycling or walking or hiking) on the

weekends. After 6 months, they hardly seem like they are all used

up.

Am I just being too cheap?

DeDe

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> > Wow! I am impressed. When do you fit that in? Is that when

you

> > walk your dogs? I used to diligently take my daughter and dog

for a

> > walk every night, we were doing an hour or so every time. Then I

> > started running again too, and before I knew it I had plantar

> > fascitis. Now I'm afraid to do too much walking for fear it will

> > impact my running (which is only 3 times a week).

> >

> > What a dumb reason! Do you have any shoes you recommend for

walking?

> >

> > Diane

>

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Yep. Actually, I¹d work out in a cross trainer as it has more lateral

support. I replace shoes three times a year. I can feel it in my back when

the shoes are done. It has more to do with the EVA getting worn out than

the shoe itself.

On 10/7/05 1:01 PM, " DeDe Spicher " <dedespicher@...> wrote:

> How do you know when it's time for new walking or running shoes? I

> know " the experts " (who I'm sure are paid off by the shoe mfrs), say

> to replace running shoes every 6 months. Of course that depends on

> how many miles one puts on them, but still. I wear mine every day

> to workout in and play in (bicycling or walking or hiking) on the

> weekends. After 6 months, they hardly seem like they are all used

> up.

>

> Am I just being too cheap?

>

> DeDe

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What shoes are you wearing? You are getting great results. I have to

replace mine every 3 months. I use my running shoes just for running, and

crosstrainers for everything else I do. You will know because your feet

will start to hurt. Usually I can feel the soles of my feet they just feel

different. I also wear insoles inside to help, but I still replace them

every couple of months. It does get expensive, but it beats your feet

hurting.

I would't worry about it yet because you will know when to buy new ones.

Right now I need new running shoes, and I know my runs would be easier if

I had new ones.

Pam

--- DeDe Spicher <dedespicher@...> wrote:

> How do you know when it's time for new walking or running shoes? I

> know " the experts " (who I'm sure are paid off by the shoe mfrs), say

> to replace running shoes every 6 months. Of course that depends on

> how many miles one puts on them, but still. I wear mine every day

> to workout in and play in (bicycling or walking or hiking) on the

> weekends. After 6 months, they hardly seem like they are all used

> up.

>

> Am I just being too cheap?

>

> DeDe

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> > >

> > > Wow! I am impressed. When do you fit that in? Is that when

> you

> > > walk your dogs? I used to diligently take my daughter and dog

> for a

> > > walk every night, we were doing an hour or so every time. Then I

> > > started running again too, and before I knew it I had plantar

> > > fascitis. Now I'm afraid to do too much walking for fear it will

> > > impact my running (which is only 3 times a week).

> > >

> > > What a dumb reason! Do you have any shoes you recommend for

> walking?

> > >

> > > Diane

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I was cheap, and that's how I ended up with heel pain. I was

wearing running shoes for running, weight lifting, and walking. I

bought cross trainers and use them now for weight lifting. Then I

bought new running shoes. (I replace them every 6 months because I

only run 3 x/week). I think I would want to buy something just for

walking, as I do not want to deal with heel pain again! Shoes are

so very important. I have experienced it first hand.

Diane

>

> How do you know when it's time for new walking or running shoes?

I

> know " the experts " (who I'm sure are paid off by the shoe mfrs),

say

> to replace running shoes every 6 months. Of course that depends

on

> how many miles one puts on them, but still. I wear mine every day

> to workout in and play in (bicycling or walking or hiking) on the

> weekends. After 6 months, they hardly seem like they are all used

> up.

>

> Am I just being too cheap?

>

> DeDe

>

>

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Oh that's so cool, . If you have been keeping track of your walking, maybe you can go back and put your steps in for the last two weeks... ;-)

That's a good day of walking you did!

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Bill, for the last 15 years, it has been hard to walk at any distance. When

I had my very first flare-up of AS in the early 1970's, besides the SI joints

flaring, my right hip was a problem. Sometimes, it took very long in the

morning to even walk downstairs. I could hear bone on bone rubbing against each

other and the pain was pretty bad. This went on for several years and then I

had a long remission from any pain. This is why it is important to not rush

into hip replacement at the first sign of hip involvement, because with

arthritis, you can go into remission at any point. Also, when you are young,

the

doctors tend to put this operation off as long as possible, because hip

replacement does not last forever. I think Mike's doctors were waiting for this

reason. They may have replacements, now, that can last longer than they used

to....and they are better materials, techniques. That's in Mike's favor, too.

Presently, I can't walk over 20 minutes before I have great pain in my

middle and upper back. Although, I do have days where it seems not to be so

severe. :-)

I believe a lot of this is osteoarthritis....my age and the AS inflammation

for so many years has caused this. Besides osteoporosis....chronic AS can

cause osteoarthritis, too.

When I was on Humira, I did very well for about a year or so...before it

stopped working as effectively. I would say I was about 80% better...overall. I

had to go off the Humira because of lung infection (side effect) after being

on double dose Humira for over two years. That was over a year ago...and I'm

still not as bad as I was before the Humira. I'm only on indocin and pain

medication now. Sometimes, I've only had to take 1/2 the dose of the pain meds!

So I'm not complaining at all.

However, my iritis flared up a couple of months ago...and they are watching

my other (good) eye for iritis inflammation now, too. It has a non-pain

inflammation going on it that eye. For those of you that are new....I've had

terrible problems with uveitis/iritis for the last 20+ years. After having the

normal iritis flareups that last a few months...it became quite

chronic...flaring for years at a time. They tried everything to control it. Of

course, with

the use of steroid drops and the inflammation for so long, and having a

cataract removed, my IOP pressure was off the charts and I was treated for

glaucoma. After a couple of years, I lost 1/2 my sight to glaucoma and had an

ahmed

glaucoma inplant operation. (the Ahmed implant was especially made of people

who have chronic inflammation.) Complications from that operation caused

retina damage (I had an another eye operation called vitrectomy/with gas

bubble),

so my limited vision in that eye is distorted. (Illustration: an *I* on the

chart looks like a *S*, can't tell the difference between a *N* from a *M*,

etc.) With a bad cataract in my good eye....my bad eye tries to take over and

reading becomes quite hard. (But, as you see, I struggle, and with the use of

computer technology, I still can read posts.) When you have distortion on one

eye, your good eye is suppose to compensate...and the distortion fades into

the background. This isn't happening anymore...so I will probably take the

chance and have the cataract taken out soon.

The doctors are afraid to take the cataract out of my " good " eye....as they

are afraid it will start up another bad inflammation. I have the best

glaucoma and retina doctor in the country...Dr. Layden and Dr. Mines in Tampa

and

Clearwater, Florida. Complications just happen with the best, sometimes.

The drugs that helped my iritis the most in the beginning, and for about 5

years...was plaquenil. The antiTNF drug helped my arthritis problems, but did

not help my iritis. We had tried everything before this...cancer drugs to

slow the immune system, Pred, shots to the eye. Nothing really helped, it just

slowed the flares to a slow simmer.

Well, my ramblings are becoming long....what I want to say Bill...is that

your walking ability may come back at any time...just be patient, as I know you

are doing...and hopefully you'll be biking and walking in the very near

future.

Best regards, Connie

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Hi Connie,

Thanks for your reply. You have been encouraging. I will continue to do what

I can to not lose any more mobility than I have already have and hopefully will

be able to do more.

You have gone a long time with your limited walking. I have not had any

replacement on my hip but have had arthroscopic surgery where they trimmed and

cut a large portion of cartilage from my hip joint. It has been 4 years now and

I hope it will still buy me more years before I have to do anything that major.

I was told something similar.

Seems like you have had more than your share of iritis/uveitis problems. It

has to be a bit of frustration for you. I would hope you get some relief from

that. And I do hope you keep us posted if you do something with that cataract.

I think it is sometimes hard to know what pain is actually happening at the

time. It could be inflammation from AS, it could be osteoarthritis, it could be

pain from the fused portion if it develops some cracks.

Well, today is a day I go off to the arthritis water exercises.

Looking for even better days.

Take care,

Bill

Grannyof9@... wrote:

Bill, for the last 15 years, it has been hard to walk at any distance...

I believe a lot of this is osteoarthritis....

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How long after sleeve surgery can I walk 1-2 miles? I currently walk 2-3 miles 6 days a week so I won't be starting something new. Also how long before I can tackle Curves again?Thanks!MarilouDr. AcevesVSG~February 5, 2010

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