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I did some homework on protein, thanks to some friends on this board, and I

thought you might be interested in this. I just bought some whey protein

isolate. Even though I don't like it as well, it's better for me....

Found this on the Thinner Times board. It's from a nutritionist:

Not all protein has the same value to your body. The amino acid profile

is the reason for this. Proteins are made of amino acids. There are 20

different ones in the human body. Of the twenty, 9 of them must be

consumed to meet your daily needs. These 9 amino acids are called

Essential (EAA) or Indispensable.

The 9 EAAs are needed in certain proportions. A protein scoring system

called Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Scoring (or PDCAAS)

was developed to show which products contain all the EAA and in the

correct proportions. It is supported by the FDA, the World Health

Organization, and perhaps most importantly, the Institute of Medicine at

the National Academy of Sciences. The highest possible score is 100.

-- Collagen Protein gets a 0 (the lowest possible score)

-- Whey Protein Isolate gets 100 (the highest possible score)

Some proteins such as COLLAGEN or HYDROLYZED COLLAGEN protein are

missing one of the EAAs entirely. So the PDCAAS for collagen is zero.

Collagen is often the main ingredient in protein supplements that come

in a liquid form, and they usually have lower PDCAAS scores.

Here are some collagen products that have lower PDCAAS scores:

New Whey and Profect1: These products appear to have a PDCAAS score of

5 or 6 out of 100. Lab analyses of several samples suggest that about

94% of their protein, by weight, is from collagen.

Proteinex2: The Proteinex OTC products appear to get protein only from

hydrolyzed collagen, so their PDCAAS score is 0 or virtually 0.

Pro-Stat 64 / Pro-Stat 1013: These products appear to have a PDCAAS

score of about 37 out of 100.

The BEST products to purchase are products made from whey protein

ISOLATE (not concentrate) and soy protein ISOLATE.

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> > Pam,

> >

> > This was some great information. There are some things that I want people

> > to consider.

> >

> > This is what you said:

> > Protein- I personally can't stand the powders, and they seem a little

> > " heavy " to me. Plus...to mix up a scoop, you have end up with a pretty good

> > sized serving. I used to mix my whey powder with a little Quick chocolate

mix,

> > and that helped. Body Fortress has a Protein whey shot that is a clear

> > liquid, and goes down pretty easy with a straw. That's worked best for me

this

> > time. It's the best I could find as far as protein content, as it has 28

> > grams per shot. So two of those and some Special K lemonade mix in your

> > water will give you your daily quota. You can get both at Walmart Super

Stores

> > or online at Amazon.com. (it's way more expensive then at Walmart though)

> >

> >

> > Please check out any of your proteins, not all are really what they say

> > they are. I have found that some of these " So Called whey shots " are nor

> > more than boiled cow hide so do a little readying--I have NO idea what the

> > Body Fortress are like, but many of the " Protein Shots " at Wallmart are not

> > that good. Also I noticed when I checked out " Special K " it has a LOT of

> > SUGAR and CARBS listed on the label. You really need to read ALL the

labels

> > of the products you are using not just the number of Protein grams you are

> > getting.

> >

> > With anything you use such as Vitamins, again read the labels and compare

> > the amount you are getting vs the others. I know I used Gummy Bear

> > Vitamins when I first came home and as I read the labels I notice I wasn't

getting

> > a lot of value compared to some other chewable Vitamins so I changed. It

> > is all a learning process.

> >

> > Thanks, Pam this was a lot of GREAT information. And congratulations to

> > joining some of us sleeve sisters and brothers!!

> >

> > Hugs,

> > Suzanne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > After having had the lapband and now two weeks out from VSG surgery, I can

> > tell you what works for me.

> >

> > 1. Fluids-try drinking with a straw, preferably the size of a cocktail

> > straw, at first. That way you are really " sipping " . You can even try a

> > toddler's " sippy cup. " I tend to gulp more with the sports bottle, so at

first,

> > that was too much for me. They are ok now though.

> >

> > Also, try supplementing fluids with sugar-free Popsicle brand popsicles.

> > They count toward your fluids, and the Tropical flavors are great.

> >

> > 2. Protein- I personally can't stand the powders, and they seem a little

> > " heavy " to me. Plus...to mix up a scoop, you have end up with a pretty good

> > sized serving. I used to mix my whey powder with a little Quick chocolate

> > mix, and that helped. Body Fortress has a Protein whey shot that is a clear

> > liquid, and goes down pretty easy with a straw. That's worked best for me

> > this time. It's the best I could find as far as protein content, as it has

> > 28 grams per shot. So two of those and some Special K lemonade mix in your

> > water will give you your daily quota. You can get both at Walmart Super

> > Stores or online at Amazon.com. (it's way more expensive then at Walmart

though)

> >

> > 3. Vitamins-Try the chewables by Viactiv. The multi vitamin comes in a

> > variety of flavors. Milk chocolate is my favorite. I also take the calcium

one

> > in the caramel flavor. They are chewy, but will melt in your mouth...and

> > are a little like eating candy.You can find them at Walmart or on Amazon

> > also.

> >

> > All of these suggestions are my personal preference, and everyone is

> > different, but it's what has worked for me.

> >

> > I was sleeved two weeks ago, I've lost 13 pounds, and I've been feeling

> > great except for last night. I made the mistake of having a glass of wine

at

> > a birthday party, and it went straight through me. So don't do that!!!!

> >

> > , hope you're feeling better....

> > Have a great day everyone!

> > Pam

> >

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