Re: HAD TO POSTPONE MY 12/8 VSG!! :( :(

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Means they have a bigger pile of paper than one that is not a COE. MarilouOn Dec 13, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Bipley wrote:BTW, a COE means NOTHING! COE does not mean a doctor is skilled or good. It means he has policies and procedures in place in case something goes wrong. That is ALL it means. One of the biggest butchers in bariatric medicine had his privileges to practice medicine revoked in Mexico yet he is a COE in Las Vegas. Go figure.The beauty of a sleeve is that you do not need a bariatric surgeon for aftercare. Let's say you have the worst of the worst complication, a leak. You are not limited to a bariatric surgeon, you can go to any GI surgeon, any general surgeon, OR.. any bariatric surgeon that is not a band mill. Life is a world difference with a sleeve vs. any other WLS surgery. Life is good with sleeves.On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Bipley <bipley@...> wrote:What you are looking for does not exist. There are no non-Dr. A websites that list his stats. That does not exist for any doc, including US docs.What you do is verify that other issues regarding Dr. A are true. You verify the track record of your coordinator. Many claim their docs are FACS, they are not. THIS, you can verify. Many claim their docs are board certified in surgery and they are not. THIS you can verify. Many claim their docs are ASMBS, they are not and THIS you can verify.The way you do it is this, you already verify info, you already know this info before you call the coordinator. Then you ask the coordinator these questions that you already know the answer to and see if s/he is honest. THAT is how you do it.You don't do it by asking for websites that do not even exist for US docs. You do your research, you verify what you are told in every single area that you can.And Priscilla, I personally sent you a link to the page that shows Dr. A is a fellow of the American College of Surgeons. I am not sure why you are posting asking if he is FACS, you have seen for yourself that he is FACS. ?????On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, pas03064 <pas03064@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,Thank you so much...you guys are just the best! I wrote to Nina last night and told her what is going on with my family and asked if she could supply some official websites (not Dr Aceves') where his stats of no leaks, his infection rate, etc are posted. Also where the public info is posted as to the infection rate of Almater Hospital. I'm also trying to work on getting into a local bariatric program that does Bands, VSG's and Gastric Bypasses to see if they will allow me into their program for my aftercare only. I called last Thurs and had to leave a voicemail but no one has called me back yet. I know that will help put my family more at ease and it's a good connection to have anyway in case of any complications. I live in NH and it's not like I can just jump on a plane and go down there for a complication. I'm going to try calling again today and hope I don't get the annoying voice mail again. This hospital is a "Bariatric Center of Excellence" too!! Priscilla

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HA~  That is a short cut I am going to start using! ;o)On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Marilou stone <terriertamer@...> wrote:

 

Means they have a bigger pile of paper than one that is not a COE.  Marilou

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Hi Everyone,

I finally got a callback tonight from the local hosp that I was hoping to get

into their program for my aftercare (just in case, and to make my family happy)

but they won't take anyone who has had their surgery by a surgeon other their

own. Get this, they get $24,300 for private pay sleevers. I told her I was

going to Mexico, but did a lot of research and he's an excellent surgeon. She

was not put off by that at all but did ask me a lot of questions. Most of my

answers were typical of their program too. She asked me if I would please call

her when I return to tell her how I'm doing and how my experience was. I said

sure! Things are starting to calm down with my family and I thank you all again

so very much because you gave me good answers to come back with for their

questions. The man I have lived with for 30 years is now accepting that I'm

going but he won't go with me. You know, I'd rather he didn't anyway. He would

probably just stress me out worrying about this and that from the time we even

arrived at the airport for takeoff. I also spoke with my sister in AZ twice

today about some business stuff, and she did not bring it up either time. I

also received the nicest encouraging letter from Nina last night. She is so

nice and understanding! Everyone here is too!

I went online trying to rebook my flight with United in early Jan and the prices

have just skyrocketed (little pun there). Didn't book anything yet.

Does anyone have a definte Jan date yet?

Priscilla

PS. Bipley - what does COE stand for -- Center of Excellence??

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Priscilla

Do you Know that is not a such website where Drs can post their failure or bad records that is forbidden to them because that would affect their record, can you inmagine if any Dr post any failure in his career all of them will become poor and homelessThe only way to see Dr records in they career is by people posting or reporting any good or bad things that happen or by reporting to the Medical Associations but listen to this the Drs are well care by those AMA and they just do not report any complication if this problem haven't been decided by a court that found the Dr guilty of X problem otherwise if your own desicion and research that have to decided what to do also searching in forums like this one help you with your final choice.

From: Marilou stone <terriertamer@...> Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 8:07:05 PMSubject: Re: HAD TO POSTPONE MY 12/8 VSG!! :(

Means they have a bigger pile of paper than one that is not a COE. Marilou

On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Bipley wrote:

BTW, a COE means NOTHING! COE does not mean a doctor is skilled or good. It means he has policies and procedures in place in case something goes wrong. That is ALL it means. One of the biggest butchers in bariatric medicine had his privileges to practice medicine revoked in Mexico yet he is a COE in Las Vegas. Go figure.

The beauty of a sleeve is that you do not need a bariatric surgeon for aftercare. Let's say you have the worst of the worst complication, a leak. You are not limited to a bariatric surgeon, you can go to any GI surgeon, any general surgeon, OR.. any bariatric surgeon that is not a band mill.

Life is a world difference with a sleeve vs. any other WLS surgery. Life is good with sleeves.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Bipley <bipley@...> wrote:

What you are looking for does not exist. There are no non-Dr. A websites that list his stats. That does not exist for any doc, including US docs.

What you do is verify that other issues regarding Dr. A are true. You verify the track record of your coordinator. Many claim their docs are FACS, they are not. THIS, you can verify. Many claim their docs are board certified in surgery and they are not. THIS you can verify. Many claim their docs are ASMBS, they are not and THIS you can verify.

The way you do it is this, you already verify info, you already know this info before you call the coordinator. Then you ask the coordinator these questions that you already know the answer to and see if s/he is honest. THAT is how you do it.

You don't do it by asking for websites that do not even exist for US docs. You do your research, you verify what you are told in every single area that you can.

And Priscilla, I personally sent you a link to the page that shows Dr. A is a fellow of the American College of Surgeons. I am not sure why you are posting asking if he is FACS, you have seen for yourself that he is FACS. ?????

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, pas03064 <pas03064@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,Thank you so much...you guys are just the best! I wrote to Nina last night and told her what is going on with my family and asked if she could supply some official websites (not Dr Aceves') where his stats of no leaks, his infection rate, etc are posted. Also where the public info is posted as to the infection rate of Almater Hospital. I'm also trying to work on getting into a local bariatric program that does Bands, VSG's and Gastric Bypasses to see if they will allow me into their program for my aftercare only. I called last Thurs and had to leave a voicemail but no one has called me back yet. I know that will help put my family more at ease and it's a good connection to have anyway in case of any complications. I live in NH and it's not like I can just jump on a plane and go down there for a complication. I'm going to try calling again today and hope I don't get the annoying voice mail again. This hospital is a "Bariatric Center of Excellence" too!! Priscilla

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Hi,

I am flying into San Diego from Baltimore on Jan 2nd. My sister and I are

spending a couple days out there to explore the city. My husband is staying here

to be with our children. I am being picked up on the 4th and surgery is on the

5th! I am so excited! I leave in 18 days!

B.

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Yes!

 

PS. Bipley - what does COE stand for -- Center of Excellence??

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Marilou,

I'm in New Hampshire!

Priscilla

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Hi ,

I just got some open dates from Nina for me to try to work my flights around but

she didn't offer the 5th. She offered the 6th & 8th though, plus 4 dates the

following week. I'll let you know when it get finalized...maybe we'll see each

other there! Good luck and enjoy your sightseeing in San Diego!

Priscilla

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Priscilla:

I'm January 14 if you want you can go too that day also another person in this forum will be going the same day talk to nina or monica and may be you can book that same day.

From: pas03064 <pas03064@...> Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 9:48:02 PMSubject: Re: HAD TO POSTPONE MY 12/8 VSG!! :(

Hi Everyone,I finally got a callback tonight from the local hosp that I was hoping to get into their program for my aftercare (just in case, and to make my family happy) but they won't take anyone who has had their surgery by a surgeon other their own. Get this, they get $24,300 for private pay sleevers. I told her I was going to Mexico, but did a lot of research and he's an excellent surgeon. She was not put off by that at all but did ask me a lot of questions. Most of my answers were typical of their program too. She asked me if I would please call her when I return to tell her how I'm doing and how my experience was. I said sure! Things are starting to calm down with my family and I thank you all again so very much because you gave me good answers to come back with for their questions. The man I have lived with for 30 years is now accepting that I'm going but he won't go with me. You know, I'd rather he didn't anyway. He would probably just

stress me out worrying about this and that from the time we even arrived at the airport for takeoff. I also spoke with my sister in AZ twice today about some business stuff, and she did not bring it up either time. I also received the nicest encouraging letter from Nina last night. She is so nice and understanding! Everyone here is too!I went online trying to rebook my flight with United in early Jan and the prices have just skyrocketed (little pun there). Didn't book anything yet.Does anyone have a definte Jan date yet?PriscillaPS. Bipley - what does COE stand for -- Center of Excellence??> > >> >> > Means they have a bigger pile of paper than one that is not a COE. Marilou> >>

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Hi Priscilla,

Let me know what date you decide on and hopefully I will get to meet you in

Mexico!

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Hi,

I'm waiting for a phone call from after she confirms with a patient on

whether or not they are really still scheduled for Dec 28th (they weren't down

as a definite). If they are not, then I'm probably going on 12/27 for a 12/28

surgery date and returning home on Jan 2nd. It's mostly because of the

scheduling problem with United in Jan. If they are, then I may just book with a

totally different airline but I have $389 into united so I wanted to use that up

first. Will give you all another update as one comes about.

Priscilla

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Hi Everyone,

The date has been finalized - It's Jan 6th!!! I'm so excited - I even have my plane reservations all made. Flying down on the 5th, VSG surgery on the 6th, then fly to Phoenix on the 9th to spend 5 nights with my sister (she's fine with this now). I fly back to NH on the 14th and was even lucky enough to get a Non-Stop flight (just 4 Hrs, 45 Min) instead of the normal 8 hrs.

Thanks for all your support! I can't believe how wonderful and caring everyone is here. Thank you so much. Happy Holidays to all!

Priscilla

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Hi ,

Will miss seeing you in MX. My surgery date is now Jan 6th and I'm

leaving on the 9th but let's still stay in touch. We're so close!

Priscilla

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This sound perfect. I am so happy for you. You are about to take a BIG step towards changing the rest of your life. You have done one of the nicest things that you could ever do for yourself. Congratulations to you!

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 12/21/2010 8:32:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, pas03064@... writes:

Hi Everyone,

The date has been finalized - It's Jan 6th!!! I'm so excited - I even have my plane reservations all made. Flying down on the 5th, VSG surgery on the 6th, then fly to Phoenix on the 9th to spend 5 nights with my sister (she's fine with this now). I fly back to NH on the 14th and was even lucky enough to get a Non-Stop flight (just 4 Hrs, 45 Min) instead of the normal 8 hrs.

Thanks for all your support! I can't believe how wonderful and caring everyone is here. Thank you so much. Happy Holidays to all!

Priscilla

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Hi Priscilla:

I'm very glad and SUPER HAPPY that your family is accepting your decision and because you can resolve your trip issue with the airlines, even though I wont meet you in MX I will keep in touch with you.

Best Regards

Happy Holydays

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Hi ,Will miss seeing you in MX. My surgery date is now Jan 6th and I'mleaving on the 9th but let's still stay in touch. We're so close!Priscilla> >> > >> > >> > > Means they have a bigger pile of paper than one that is not a COE.Marilou> > >> >>

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Suzanne and -

Thank you for your replies. The days seem to be flying by now!

Priscilla

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I am getting my sleeve on Jan 7th. See u there!

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