Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Bipley, The full sensation is very much like it was before surgery for me however it is very clear very early on that you do not over eat. I got my sleeve in march have only gotten ill twice and it was because (my thinking) I had dessert you know those little sweet shots you can get from chilis ....Lesson learned !! I wont do that again.... it seems that if i eat and then have a sweet it does something weird to me I almost passed out and of course just to be sure I had to try it again! (on a diffrent occasion). I can have a sweet by its self but not after a meal. ( my 5 or 6 bites of protein! LOL) OK I am going on and on... bottom line I don't notice a diffrence except I dont get that feeling of man I ate too much I have to unbutton my pants and feel miserable for the next two hours feeling. And that is a good thing!!! By the way DON"T BUST A STAPLE !!!! Marie From: Bipley <Bipley@...>Subject: Sleeve question"" < >Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 8:20 PM Is this me or is this standard?Before I was banded, full felt... full.After I was banded I felt full but it was a different kind of feeling full.Today I am sleeved and full is back to feeling like it was before banding, simply full.Is this the same experience other sleeved folks have? Does full feel the same as before surgery just on less food? I think I forgot what this sensation felt like until I ate my 1/4 cup of baked beans the other day. WOW... huge difference in what full feels like with a sleeve vs. banding.BTW, on 7/4/08 KittenQutie's grandma is going to make me Southern Fried Chicken, her Mom is making garlic mashed potatoes, and I'm gonna eat ALL day long. I'm not going to quit until I can't get another bite down or until my staples bust! ;o))))))) S-252/G-150/ C-120Banded 12/06Revision to sleeve 6/3/08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Yes, Bipley, tis I, Gerry, from LBT, but I haven't been there for awhile. This group seems to answer most questions I have.now. You are so right. NO GHRELIN ROCKS. I have been one of the lucky ones. Other than bad gas discomfort on the 3rd day, I have had an easy go of it. I have had no nausea, never upchucked and my hair is intack..I did feel tired for awhile, but my energy levels are now better than ever. It's been more than a week since I hit that brick wall at only a 25 pound loss, but I think I may be about to crack it soon. How goes your progress? I'm enclosing an email I received from the HSI (Health Science Institute), an alternative medicine site, about ghrelin which you and the group might find interesting. ---------------------- ------------------------ ---------------------- ------------------------ Dear Reader, You might think you're hungry, but that's just the hormones talking. When it comes to your desire for food, you're largely at the mercy of the hormones leptin and ghrelin. A rising ghrelin level prompts your brain to register the sensation of hunger. As you eat and fulfill your body's need for nourishment, leptin rises, ghrelin drops, and hunger fades. Simple. But when you're trying to lose weight - not so simple. ------------------------------------------------------------- Rise and fall ------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone who sets out to lose weight with a program of exercise and restricted calorie intake will have to face down ghrelin - a formidable adversary. A 2002 New England Journal of Medicine study followed subjects' ghrelin levels over the course of a six-month weight reduction effort. After the first three months, each of the overweight subjects had lost an average of nearly 40 pounds. By the end of the study they had managed to maintain that level of weight loss. But here's the bad news (and possibly the key reason dieters typically regain lost weight): As body weight dropped, ghrelin output increased. At the end of the study, the subjects' LOWEST ghrelin levels were almost as high as their pre-meal ghrelin peaks before their weight-loss program began. That's daunting. Here you are, working hard, week after week, exercising and depriving yourself of calories, while ghrelin lays the groundwork for backsliding the moment you let your guard down. ------------------------------------------------------------- Walk this way ------------------------------------------------------------- Now for the good news: There are three steps you can take to tame the ghrelin gremlin. 1) Get enough sleep Research shows that ghrelin levels are generally higher and leptin levels are lower in people who regularly get inadequate sleep. As a result, hunger is more pronounced during the day. And worse: Sleep deprived people tend to desire calorie-dense, high-carbohydrate foods. But for most people, a full eight hours of sleep each night may not be necessary to moderate ghrelin/leptin levels. A 2006 sleep study shows that many overweight people may experience benefits by adding just 20 minutes of additional sleep each night. 2) Avoid fructose Fructose makes ghrelin rise. And fructose is in a wide range of processed foods. In the e-Alert "Soft and Sweet" (6/22/04), I told you about a study in which subjects of normal weight drank a fructose drink or a glucose drink after each meal for 24 hours. Results: High fructose intake was linked to higher ghrelin levels, and lower leptin and insulin levels. 3) Don't attempt a crash diet A weight-loss diet that starts right in with a steep drop in calories is a shock to the system - a shock that's more likely to prompt ghrelin increase. Your body gets a chance to adjust incrementally if you ease into a new regimen of less caloric intake. And of course, avoiding simple, refined carbs is a must. Consumption of inferior carbs just makes you hungry for more carbs. Sources: "Plasma Ghrelin Levels after Diet-Induced Weight Loss or Gastric Bypass Surgery" New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 364, No. 21, 5/23/02, content.nejm.org "Dietary Fructose Reduces Circulating Insulin and Leptin, Attenuates Postprandial Suppression of Ghrelin, and Increases Triglycerides in Women" Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, Vol. 89, No. 6, 6/4/04, ncbi.nlm.nih.gov "Overweight and Obese Patients in a Primary Care Population Report Less Sleep Than Patients With a Normal Body Mass Index" Archives of Internal Medicine, Vol. 165, No. 1, 1/10/05, archinte.ama-assn.org http://www.hsibaltimore.com/welcome.html--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Bipley <Bipley@...> wrote: From: Bipley <Bipley@...>Subject: Re: Sleeve question Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 8:24 AM Hi Gerry...I know you! I know you from LBT I believe!It's common to lose like crazy on the post op diet (clear liquids) and then it slows down. It does stop for a few days for many people regardless of surgery type. Another common plateau is the 50# point, I have an article on it somewhere if someone is interested, I think I have it anyway. It's common to plateau at 50#.Yeah, the "no hunger" thing is weird! I have not experienced hunger since the day before surgery. No Ghrelin ROCKS! I have a handle on head hunger so I forget to eat. I used to read about people setting timers so they would remember to eat a meal and I thought they were exaggerating. They aren't! One day I had a protein shake at about 6AM and then at 7PM I realized I hadn't consumed anything else. Weird. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:49 PM, g <gerryleeo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Bipley, What is "is"? What is full? LOL Having never had a band I don't know what full feels like with it. My feeling of full with the sleeve is more a restrictive feeling of full, not a bloated feeling of full like I had before the sleeve when I was out of control. The first 10 days was amazing. I dropped 25 pounds like a rock, then like a bad check I bounced up 5 and have stalled between 18 and 22 pounds. I'm following the diet faithfully and am confident I will pass through this wall soon. I wonder, if I have hit that age cured fat that has been cemented in for many decades. Fortunately I have no hunger, only very mild visions rare steak and pizza. Careful of those staples, woman!! Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 5 and one closest to the bra line was about 2 inches below.Marie Kindness is the language the blind can see and the deaf can hear. - Mark Twain how many incisions are make for the sleeve procedure, are any of them in the bra area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I only have 4 incisions... 3 of which are TINY (I use Maderma 3x a day) and 1 thats a little shorter than an inch long. The other " incision " was avoided by using my belly button which Dr. A said he does whenever he can to avoid too many scars- for my soon to come bikini days Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Just out of curiosity, If you don't mind me asking did your insurance cover your gall bladder surgery? From: oregondaisy56 <denisef822@...>Subject: Re: sleeve question Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 10:14 PM I now have 14 incision sites. 5 for my lap band, 5 more myrevision to sleeve, and 4 new ones for my recent gall bladdersurgery.My tummy looks like I have been in a knife war!the one that bothers me the most is definitely my latest and largestfrom the gall bladder surgery. None of my other incision sites ever bothered me at all. This one is right smack in the middle,right between my boobs but down about 2" I am beginning to wonderif I am getting a hernia there. It bulges out a little bit.None of the 14 are anywhere that my bra would touch it.> > >> >> > how many incisions are make for the sleeve procedure, are any of them in> > the bra area?> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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