Re: Question for the old timers on the board

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It didn't happen for me.  One thing that does happen is that the higher your BMI the faster you lose in the beginning.  Those last 20# are a buggar for all WLS types to get off.On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Cheryl on <boernecheryl@...> wrote:

 

Back when I was investigating which surgery I wanted to have, I signed up for an email from a DS (duodenal switch) group.So today, I get this post and I wanted to find out if it applies to VGS people as well:

" If you're a DS post-op - can I be honest with you here?  if you are in that magic 1 to 2 years post-op phase (aka the honeymoon) - you feel invincible, don't you?  It's okay to admit it.  Pretty much about 90% of

us have been there.  Doesn't matter what you do - you just somehow - amazingly - manage to lose weight.  It's nearly dizzying, the euphoria that comes with it!

It does not last.

There will be a day when your body figures out what your surgeon did to make the magic happen - and it will dig in it's heels, so to speak, and fight you for each pound lost. " Does that happen to " us " too?  It would seem to me that it would, since the VSG is " part one " of the DS.  And if so, is it just " no more weight loss " or is it " regain danger! " ???

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What? IDK what this poster was smoking, but NOoooooooo........that does not happen unless you're trying to eat your way through St. Louis or something. Any surgery is a TOOL....hello, what does tool mean? Oh yeah, something you have to HELP you control you. Anybody can eat their way around something if so determined, the point is, how determined are you (or is anyone) to lose and keep off the weight? A tool is exactly that, a tool, the rest is up to you. There is no magic wand. IDK who posted that, but they don't sound very determined to use their tool as intended. Just saying.

>> Back when I was investigating which surgery I wanted to have, I signed up> for an email from a DS (duodenal switch) group.> So today, I get this post and I wanted to find out if it applies to VGS> people as well:> > "If you're a DS post-op - can I be honest with you here? if you are in that> magic 1 to 2 years post-op phase (aka the honeymoon) - you feel invincible,> don't you? It's okay to admit it. Pretty much about 90% of us have been> there. Doesn't matter what you do - you just somehow - amazingly - manage> to lose weight. It's nearly dizzying, the euphoria that comes with it!> > It does not last.> > There will be a day when your body figures out what your surgeon did to make> the magic happen - and it will dig in it's heels, so to speak, and fight you> for each pound lost."> Does that happen to "us" too? It would seem to me that it would, since the> VSG is "part one" of the DS.> And if so, is it just "no more weight loss" or is it "*regain danger!*" ???> > Cheryl> *My Best Friend's Bowl*> *Premium Nutrition for Optimum Health*> *www.mybestfriendsbowl.com* <http://www.mybestfriendsbowl.com/>> Quality AKC Chihuahuas from Champion Bloodlines> www.campchihuahua.com> The dog-watchers need a watchdog.> Let's keep the Humane Society of the United States HONEST.> Join the discussion:> www.humanewatch.org>

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I am wondering as a person who may have to have the band removed at some point, If I go for a revision and am already at my ideal weight(or pretty close), how much will I lose

if I switch to the sleeve? I understand the last 20# are the hardest to lose, but what if thats all you have to go?

Re: Question for the "old timers" on the board

What? IDK what this poster was smoking, but NOoooooooo........that does not happen unless you're trying to eat your way through St. Louis or something. Any surgery is a TOOL....hello, what does tool mean? Oh yeah, something you have to HELP you control you. Anybody can eat their way around something if so determined, the point is, how determined are you (or is anyone) to lose and keep off the weight? A tool is exactly that, a tool, the rest is up to you. There is no magic wand. IDK who posted that, but they don't sound very determined to use their tool as intended. Just saying.

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> Back when I was investigating which surgery I wanted to have, I signed up

> for an email from a DS (duodenal switch) group.

> So today, I get this post and I wanted to find out if it applies to VGS

> people as well:

>

> "If you're a DS post-op - can I be honest with you here? if you are in that

> magic 1 to 2 years post-op phase (aka the honeymoon) - you feel invincible,

> don't you? It's okay to admit it. Pretty much about 90% of us have been

> there. Doesn't matter what you do - you just somehow - amazingly - manage

> to lose weight. It's nearly dizzying, the euphoria that comes with it!

>

> It does not last.

>

> There will be a day when your body figures out what your surgeon did to make

> the magic happen - and it will dig in it's heels, so to speak, and fight you

> for e ach pound lost."

> Does that happen to "us" too? It would seem to me that it would, since the

> VSG is "part one" of the DS.

> And if so, is it just "no more weight loss" or is it "*regain danger!*" ???

>

> Cheryl

> *My Best Friend's Bowl*

> *Premium Nutrition for Optimum Health*

> *www.mybestfriendsbowl.com* <http://www.mybestfriendsbowl.com/>;

> Quality AKC Chihuahuas from Champion Bloodlines

> www.campchihuahua.com

> The dog-watchers need a watchdog.

> Let's keep the Humane Society of the United States HONEST.

> Join the discussion:

> www.humanewatch.org

>

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I was content with my weight just not with my band when I went for the revision

surgery. I lost about 20 or 30 pounds with absolutely no effort after sleeve

surgery. Most people lose weight with any kind of surgery and your new little

stomach will be swollen (no surprise there, right) and just won't hold much.

While I was content to be a size 14 ( " normal " enough for me I love being a size

6 with no " dieting " needed.

gloria

>

> I am wondering as a person who may have to have the band removed at some

point, If I go for a revision and am already at my ideal weight(or pretty

close), how much will I lose

> if I switch to the sleeve? I understand the last 20# are the hardest to lose,

but what if thats all you have to go?

>

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I think the original poster was referring to the malabsorption component of

bypass and DS surgery. There've been some studies showing that after about 2-3

years, the body figures out how to absorb the fat and calories (but not the

vitamins) from the foods you eat. Since Sleevsters have never *had* a

malabsorptive component to their weight loss....no, this doesn't affect us.

>

> All I can speak about is what I have experienced. I am about 2 1/2 years

> out. I find it really easy to maintain my goal weight. I fluctuate 2 to 3

> pounds at the most. It is all about your lifestyle change NOT a diet for

> me. I changed what I eat, and it is a way of life. I have a treat now and

> then, but I don't overdue it and maybe just a few bites of something seems

> to satisfy my need for it. I also make a point to continue to exercise.

> So for me I feel very confident that I will ALWAYS maintain this weight

> loss of 105 pounds.

>

> Now if I went on the milk chocolate diet and NEVER changed how I ate, I

> would gain weight back for sure. It does take work on your part. But after a

> while this is becomes a lifestyle change and just a normal way of life.

>

> I hope that helps you some.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2011 6:25:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> boernecheryl@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Back when I was investigating which surgery I wanted to have, I signed up

> for an email from a DS (duodenal switch) group.

> So today, I get this post and I wanted to find out if it applies to VGS

> people as well:

>

> " If you're a DS post-op - can I be honest with you here? if you are in

> that magic 1 to 2 years post-op phase (aka the honeymoon) - you feel

> invincible, don't you? It's okay to admit it. Pretty much about 90% of us

have

> been there. Doesn't matter what you do - you just somehow - amazingly -

> manage to lose weight. It's nearly dizzying, the euphoria that comes with

it!

> It does not last.

> There will be a day when your body figures out what your surgeon did to

> make the magic happen - and it will dig in it's heels, so to speak, and fight

> you for each pound lost. " Does that happen to " us " too? It would seem to

> me that it would, since the VSG is " part one " of the DS.

> And if so, is it just " no more weight loss " or is it " regain danger! " ???

>

> Cheryl

> My Best Friend's Bowl

> Premium Nutrition for Optimum Health

> _www.mybestfriendsbowl.com_ (http://www.mybestfriendsbowl.com/)

> Quality AKC Chihuahuas from Champion Bloodlines

> _www.campchihuahua.com_ (http://www.campchihuahua.com/)

> The dog-watchers need a watchdog.

> Let's keep the Humane Society of the United States HONEST.

> Join the discussion:

> _www.humanewatch.org_ (http://www.humanewatch.org/)

>

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I had a 20.8 BMI when I revised to a sleeve.  You can't help but to lose weight at first.  If you have 20# to go - you will get there in weeks. ;o)On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:27 PM, <DStu98@...> wrote:

 

I am wondering as a person who may have to have the band removed at some point, If I go for a revision and am already at my ideal weight(or pretty close), how much will I lose

if I switch to the sleeve? I understand the last 20# are the hardest to lose, but what if thats all you have to go?

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I was kind of wondering if this is what the person was talking about as well but thing is, DSers will always malabsorb fat and protein, granted not to the extent they do in the beginning but they will always malabsorb.

Bypass does not, they will malabsorb calories for 6-24 months.  Then the body compensates for the bypassed intestine by growing more villi, the little finger like things that absorb calories.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Janice <jangwas@...> wrote:

 

I think the original poster was referring to the malabsorption component of bypass and DS surgery. There've been some studies showing that after about 2-3 years, the body figures out how to absorb the fat and calories (but not the vitamins) from the foods you eat. Since Sleevsters have never *had* a malabsorptive component to their weight loss....no, this doesn't affect us.

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Bipley, Did Dr. A remove your band? How painful was that? Did you get the sleeve done at the same time? How painful was the sleeve compared to the band? What was the recovery like in comparison? Right now my band is "ok" with minor problems only because it is very loose and provides me with little or no restriction whatsoever. But the writing is on the wall for the long run. I would like to take a proactive approach sometime soon and just deal with it. What are the food restrictions immediately following the surgery? Is it the liquid diet/mushy diet etc. thing again? Gosh, I wish I knew this before...glad you are doing so well.

Deborah

In a message dated 1/12/2011 9:20:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Bipley@... writes:

I had a 20.8 BMI when I revised to a sleeve. You can't help but to lose weight at first. If you have 20# to go - you will get there in weeks. ;o)

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:27 PM, <DStu98@...> wrote:

I am wondering as a person who may have to have the band removed at some point, If I go for a revision and am already at my ideal weight(or pretty close), how much will I loseif I switch to the sleeve? I understand the last 20# are the hardest to lose, but what if thats all you have to go?

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I had my band removed and sleeve in the same surgery, took about 1.5 hours.  Really the surgeries were pretty similar in pain and recovery.  It was about 2 weeks for full recovery for surgery pain.  The post op diet was 10 days of clears, 10 days of fulls, and 10 days of soft foods.  If I never see broth again, that will be okayyyyy with me! ;o)

Oh, and yes, Dr. Aceves did my surgery, wouldn't have it any other way.I'm beyond 2.5 years post op revision and there is no food I do not tolerate but there were foods I didn't tolerate well for a couple of months post op, now it's no big deal.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:54 PM, <DStu98@...> wrote:

 

Bipley, Did Dr. A remove your band? How painful was that? Did you get the sleeve done at the same time? How painful was the sleeve compared to the band? What was the recovery like in comparison? Right now my band is " ok " with minor problems only because it is very loose and provides me with little or no restriction whatsoever. But the writing is on the wall for the long run. I would like to take a proactive approach sometime soon and just deal with it. What are the food restrictions immediately following the surgery? Is it the liquid diet/mushy diet etc. thing again? Gosh, I wish I knew this before...glad you are doing so well.

Deborah

 

In a message dated 1/12/2011 9:20:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Bipley@... writes:

 

I had a 20.8 BMI when I revised to a sleeve.  You can't help but to lose weight at first.  If you have 20# to go - you will get there in weeks. ;o)

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:27 PM, <DStu98@...> wrote:

 

I am wondering as a person who may have to have the band removed at some point, If I go for a revision and am already at my ideal weight(or pretty close), how much will I loseif I switch to the sleeve? I understand the last 20# are the hardest to lose, but what if thats all you have to go?