Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 , I can say that when we were going through the CI process for our daughter, we didn't have a choice in implants, given her situation and inner ear malformation, we were " stuck " with AB because it was the one that could deliver her the best sound. The AB Implant has DONE amazing things for her and I while I may be upset at the fact that she could possibly have another surgery to have hers replaced, I am more welcome to the fact that they are open with their information and not withholding until the FDA gets a hold of it. Like someone else said, every device has a failure rate. Mom to Michela (2.5 y.o. AB 8/04) ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of majohnsen32 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: Advanced Bionics Recall Hi: I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working or having another surgery. I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else really matters if the internal part isn't working. What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned that there were significant differences between the companies when I was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! Freedom 6/17/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I am not trying to look like I am putting down other companies. Forgive me if I do. I can understand 's anger and frustrations. If I was in her shoe right now, I would have gone and got Freedom. But I have Freedom and Nucleus 24 Contour so I am not complaining. 4th recall in 4 years is not a good sign (my opinion) It make me wonder about their reliability. I am sure their products are excellent like Cochlear. I can't really say because I don't have Advanced Bionic products in my head. I know people with AB that are very very successful and I am happy for them. AB is not being done very much here in Utah compare to Cochlear. I think it's same case with most centers in the world. I just hope AB can work out the kinks because their products are very good. I am sure all companies have their own kinks to work out. Jarom N24C Freedom > > , > > I can say that when we were going through the CI process for our > daughter, we didn't have a choice in implants, given her situation and > inner ear malformation, we were " stuck " with AB because it was the one > that could deliver her the best sound. The AB Implant has DONE amazing > things for her and I while I may be upset at the fact that she could > possibly have another surgery to have hers replaced, I am more welcome > to the fact that they are open with their information and not > withholding until the FDA gets a hold of it. > > Like someone else said, every device has a failure rate. > > > > > > Mom to Michela (2.5 y.o. AB 8/04) > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of majohnsen32 > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:17 AM > > Subject: Advanced Bionics Recall > > > > Hi: > > I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, > I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another > recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the > deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they > are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. > Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to > go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics > doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! > > I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but > in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom > system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! > I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice > that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working > or having another surgery. > > I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about > reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every > presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I > guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they > wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message > they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else > really matters if the internal part isn't working. > > What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned > that there were significant differences between the companies when I > was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight > and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times > more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't > really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. > > Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- > that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! > > > Freedom > 6/17/05 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi , I am one that does have the AB device in question. I'm not going to get too deeply into a discussion right now, until I have true facts from AB (more than just a news article) and I know what I'm talking about, which right now, I don't know any more than you do. AB has always said that they will recall at the slightest hint of a problem. I see this as a good thing. I just passed my one year CI anniversary, and have done wonderfully with my AB 90k implant. I have no complaints. This may surprise you, given the tone of your post, but if I was one of the people affected, if my CI failed, I would be re-implanted, as quickly as possible, and I would choose AB. I am not going to bash Cochlear, just because I have an AB implant. I just have to say this, also. I wonder if you guys know, or realize how you sound. I hope it's not just that you don't care how you sound. Your posts are hurtful, and mean-spirited, and it's like laughing at someone who falls down, before you know if they're hurt or not. This isn't the only forum this issue is being discussed, believe me. I just wish that people would wait for the facts from the company involved before making these major decisions that it must be a terrible ocmpany. They're a great company, and I cannot reiterate enough, that I would choose them again. I am an eduated person who is late deafened, and like most folks, I did lots of research before choosing AB. I don't regret the decison. I hope that everyone doesn't start jumping all over me, now that I've said this. I just needed to get it off my chest. Thanks for listening. Binns BEA Volunteer for Advanced Bionics ----Original Message Follows---- From: " majohnsen32 " <majohnsen32@...> Reply- Subject: Advanced Bionics Recall Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:17:27 -0000 Hi: I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working or having another surgery. I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else really matters if the internal part isn't working. What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned that there were significant differences between the companies when I was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! Freedom 6/17/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 hello , I can appreciate how you must feel. If the AB device has worked for you, that is wonderful. The same thing could have easily happened to one of the Nucleus or Med-El products. In my opinion, list such as these should be used for hearing support, and to encourage those who wish to pursue the gift of hearing with an implant regardless of the company. Ford has had many recalls thought the years, but we will get on board and buy one more ford. Don't worry; be happy! Larry Advanced Bionics Recall > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:17:27 -0000 > > Hi: > > I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, > I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another > recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the > deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they > are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. > Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to > go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics > doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! > > I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but > in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom > system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! > I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice > that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working > or having another surgery. > > I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about > reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every > presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I > guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they > wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message > they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else > really matters if the internal part isn't working. > > What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned > that there were significant differences between the companies when I > was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight > and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times > more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't > really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. > > Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- > that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! > > > Freedom > 6/17/05 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Well thank you, Larry, that was a really, really nice thing to say. I appreciate that so much, haven't heard many nice things in the past couple days. Thank you. Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: " larry wilson " <lwilson005@...> Reply- < > Subject: Re: Advanced Bionics Recall Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:05:28 -0600 hello , I can appreciate how you must feel. If the AB device has worked for you, that is wonderful. The same thing could have easily happened to one of the Nucleus or Med-El products. In my opinion, list such as these should be used for hearing support, and to encourage those who wish to pursue the gift of hearing with an implant regardless of the company. Ford has had many recalls thought the years, but we will get on board and buy one more ford. Don't worry; be happy! Larry Advanced Bionics Recall > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:17:27 -0000 > > Hi: > > I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, > I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another > recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the > deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they > are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. > Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to > go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics > doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! > > I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but > in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom > system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! > I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice > that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working > or having another surgery. > > I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about > reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every > presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I > guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they > wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message > they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else > really matters if the internal part isn't working. > > What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned > that there were significant differences between the companies when I > was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight > and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times > more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't > really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. > > Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- > that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! > > > Freedom > 6/17/05 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 , There is no need for anyone to be defensive. Stuff happens. But we are not seeing knee jerk reactions here. Larry tries to draw a parallel between cochlear implants and Fords. Ahhhh, its not like that. When Ford recalls certian models, they can be criven to the shop and left for repairs. Not so with cochlear implants. You may be ok with deplantation and reinplantation if it was necessaery. But if your device failed, you would not have a choice. And if your insurance covered it, not likely you would have a choice either to switch. But not everyone would find a 2nd surgery to replace a failed device an easy experience especially if that person didnt have an easy first experience in surgery. And I am sure that those with the affected devices are feeling like they are playing Russian Roulette. We are not making light of this. Now, you said " AB has always said that they will recall at the slightest hint of a problem. " They dont have a choice, its a medical device, and if a recall is mandated, it has to take place. I see this as a good thing. How we sound in this matter is not relevant. People will react as they will to news of this nature. This is serious business, not a matter to be trivialized. Yes, its unfortunate that the various forums will carry much negative debate but the defensive positions many take do not help. And why worry about people jumping all over you, this is not your fault but if you put yourself out there as an advocate for AB, you have to accept it as coming with the territory. All 3 CI companies make great products. But humans are involved so...stuff happens. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. --Dorothy Galyean & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 , thanks for clearing up the difference between Fords and CI. And yes, anyone can say what's on their mind on this forum cuz this is what it's about. We r not here to be nice, we have a right to worry and I am worried even though I have a Freedom implant. Rule of thumb is when u manufacture a product, the goal is to sell it and the bottom line is profit. So waiting to hear from AB abt their product is like waiting to hear what you wanna hear. Even if it was as easy as switching Fords, I rather a BMW, Toyota or VW cuz realiability DOES matters. Also, do ya'll remember all that pain when gettin out of the hospital on ur day of surgery? I can't even imagine me or my children going thru multiple skull surgeries and if it was for a fact, then I wud rather remain deaf. Just to be clear with some of you who might miss my point, Im not against AB in particular, but " implant recall " is the last thing ANYONE w a CI needs to hear. Three time is one too many recalls and unaccetable unless some of you into the " Ford " concept. Another thing that disgust me in this forum is the " don't worry " crap cuz it's not legitimate comig from anyone who post, especially coming from you, Larry. If you intend to keep this group " worry-free " then must opt out. Let's get real everyone, this is a very serious matter. We are not talkin abt just switching defective, brand stuff, we r talkin about opening our SKULLS over and over until " they get it right " . Fords anyone? I want to thank everyone for their worry, concern, information, facts, etc to the light, this is what makes the world a better place. Again, thank you. -JA Hear Re: Advanced Bionics Recall , There is no need for anyone to be defensive. Stuff happens. But we are not seeing knee jerk reactions here. Larry tries to draw a parallel between cochlear implants and Fords. Ahhhh, its not like that. When Ford recalls certian models, they can be criven to the shop and left for repairs. Not so with cochlear implants. You may be ok with deplantation and reinplantation if it was necessaery. But if your device failed, you would not have a choice. And if your insurance covered it, not likely you would have a choice either to switch. But not everyone would find a 2nd surgery to replace a failed device an easy experience especially if that person didnt have an easy first experience in surgery. And I am sure that those with the affected devices are feeling like they are playing Russian Roulette. We are not making light of this. Now, you said " AB has always said that they will recall at the slightest hint of a problem. " They dont have a choice, its a medical device, and if a recall is mandated, it has to take place. I see this as a good thing. How we sound in this matter is not relevant. People will react as they will to news of this nature. This is serious business, not a matter to be trivialized. Yes, its unfortunate that the various forums will carry much negative debate but the defensive positions many take do not help. And why worry about people jumping all over you, this is not your fault but if you put yourself out there as an advocate for AB, you have to accept it as coming with the territory. All 3 CI companies make great products. But humans are involved so...stuff happens. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. --Dorothy Galyean & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 , My brain is fried from being online nonstop for 2 days. To tell you the truth, I pretty much expected the response to my post, that you have written here. Not from you, in particular, I don't know you except as a list member here, but from someone. Pretty much it's if I can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Yeah, I know. Ok, for that. As for the part where you said that 'how we sound isn't relevant', well, wow, that does blow me away. Because, you can't make that determination for another person, as to what's relevant and what's not. It's relevant to me, when I read cruel, unkind things on a CI support forum. In another post, someone else said, 'we are not here to be nice.' Really? Well then, I have misunderstood. This is not the place for a person with an implant from AB to vent their feelings, any frustrations, or to open their hearts. Because here there's too much snickering going on. On my other lists, we are friends, and are helping one another through this. We will be ok, and I bet AB will, too. I'm not defensive, . I'm just tired, and I'm going to bed. Binns BEA Volunteer ----Original Message Follows---- From: " " <rclark0276@...> Reply- < > Subject: Re: Advanced Bionics Recall Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:11:45 -0800 , There is no need for anyone to be defensive. Stuff happens. But we are not seeing knee jerk reactions here. Larry tries to draw a parallel between cochlear implants and Fords. Ahhhh, its not like that. When Ford recalls certian models, they can be criven to the shop and left for repairs. Not so with cochlear implants. You may be ok with deplantation and reinplantation if it was necessaery. But if your device failed, you would not have a choice. And if your insurance covered it, not likely you would have a choice either to switch. But not everyone would find a 2nd surgery to replace a failed device an easy experience especially if that person didnt have an easy first experience in surgery. And I am sure that those with the affected devices are feeling like they are playing Russian Roulette. We are not making light of this. Now, you said " AB has always said that they will recall at the slightest hint of a problem. " They dont have a choice, its a medical device, and if a recall is mandated, it has to take place. I see this as a good thing. How we sound in this matter is not relevant. People will react as they will to news of this nature. This is serious business, not a matter to be trivialized. Yes, its unfortunate that the various forums will carry much negative debate but the defensive positions many take do not help. And why worry about people jumping all over you, this is not your fault but if you put yourself out there as an advocate for AB, you have to accept it as coming with the territory. All 3 CI companies make great products. But humans are involved so...stuff happens. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. --Dorothy Galyean & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Hi , Seeing " Comments like, I feel sorry for those with AB....Happy Nuk wearer for 18 years, seem so uncalled for. " I suspect that the Happy Nuk wearer for 18 years is a sarcastic rephrasing of my sign off. I am sorry if that offends you. You use AI 1999 Holly CI 1999 And I use Cheers, Ruth 18 wonderful years of hearing with my Nucleus CI I started using this in total awe of the miracle of the hearing my CI has provided. It has nothing to do with the AB recall. Cheers, Ruth 18 wonderful years of hearing with my Nucleus CI. I _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of AVHear2@... Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Advanced Bionics Recall , " That doesn't sound like a trustworthy company to me " . I trusted this company with two of the most important people in my life...And for the last seven years have been blessed to watch that trust grow into two amazing, listening, hearing successful little girls. I always get so frustrated when it isn't those that are effected by something like this talking, but those that seem to have something to gain, talking. History shows that everytime anything, something happens to AB, a kind of wide spread panic is started by someone who isn't even effected by it. Comments like, I feel sorry for those with AB....Happy Nuk wearer for 18 years, seem so uncalled for. Let me just say this...It was a long a difficult decision to implant both of my daughter. They where 5 and 6 respectfully at the time. There is no question in my mind that over these years Advanced Bionics has stood by us, supported the girls needs and stood up to the reason I chose them in the beginning. There honesty is impeccable. If those looking at an implant want to discuss or search through the statistics, that makes complete sense. Those who are already have another implant...I just don't understand. In all of these years, I have never gone on line and looked up what might be going wrong with another companies implant. Why would you really...?. It was this kind of hard sell, and what I felt was something underhanded selling that turned me away while we where choosing. Just my two cents, that is valued only in TWO amazing little girls, that have never had a problem with their implants AI 1999 Holly CI 1999 Advanced Bionics Recall Hi: I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working or having another surgery. I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else really matters if the internal part isn't working. What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned that there were significant differences between the companies when I was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! Freedom 6/17/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 The FDA did not find the device faulty. The recall was proactive. Binns ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Carol " <carol@...> Reply- < > Subject: Re: Advanced Bionics Recall Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:31:43 -0500 Just a note.... VOLUNTARY RECALL means that the company has recalled a device. Period. If a company does not do a voluntary recall when the FDA finds it faulty, it becomes a MANDATORY RECALL. Soooo... either way, it is going to be recalled. And either eay it is bad. If anything implanted in me (be it CI or anything else I might have implanted in the future) was recalled by the company, you had better believe I would be down on that company. I certainly wouldn't defend it in any way. Perhaps I would even feel like I didn't do my homework if they had multiple recalls, but I would NEVER defend them. Just my take.... Carol Advanced Bionics Recall Hi: I'm usually one of the " lurkers " here, but after hearing this news, I just couldn't keep quiet! I was so shocked to hear of another recall--after the shock wore off, I just felt anger. What is the deal with this company? They clearly do not value the people they are putting this device into or they wouldn't be so careless. Eventhough the CI surgery wasn't hard, I certainly wouldn't want to go through it again unneccessarily just because Advanced Bionics doesn't make enough of an effort to deliver a quality product! I considered getting the very device that is now being recalled, but in the end Cochlear's history and the options on the new Freedom system won me over. I'm counting my blessings about that tonight! I just feel bad for those people who didn't make the same choice that I did, and may now have to deal with their device not working or having another surgery. I guess I never fully understood why Cochlear always talks about reliability. They have it in all of their materials, and every presentation I have ever seen them give, they talk about it. I guess I always thought that all of them must be reliable or they wouldn't be able to sell them. I finally understand the message they have been trying to send all this time--that nothing else really matters if the internal part isn't working. What's really strange to me is that my audiologist never mentioned that there were significant differences between the companies when I was trying to decide. I went back and found my brochures tonight and in Cochlear's they talk about how their device is up to 4 times more reliable than either Advanced Bionics or Med-El...that didn't really jump out at me when I was comparing companies. Someone mentioned this is Advanced Bionics 4th recall in 4 years--- that doesn't sound like a very trustworthy company to me! Freedom 6/17/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 There have been a few people who mentioned that all the companies have device failures, and that Advanced Bionics latest recall isn't a very big deal. I have to disagree. While all companies do have internal failures, there is a significant difference between the manufacturers. My family had the wonderful opportunity to attend the Cochlear Celebration last month. It was just an amazing chance to connect with other families--children and adults recipients, and learn directly from Cochlear. Several of the sessions talked about how the implants are made and Cochlear's philosophy about quality. The Nucleus device is up to 4 TIMES MORE RELIABLE than either of the other companies. They do a significant amount of testing BEFORE releasing products to market, which is why I think they haven't had recalls. It's concerning to me that AB continues to have recalls and some people react like it's a good thing; saying they are impressed that AB is doing a recall!!! I feel if they were paying more attention to quality at the start, they wouldn't need to have all these recalls. Lexi Mom to Sophie--3 1/2--Freedom user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Please, put the AB recall to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Lexi, That is a very interesting perspective and I think it applies to all products (in partocular medical devices) regardless of brand. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Me no here. Me go bye. Leave me message. Me reply. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ NEW Home Page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 To all who wrote about the AB recall: Thanks. I wouldn't have known about it if I wasn't tuned into this group. And, it has been informative. Get this: I'm right at a point of choosing one or the other (no need to name them). And, I've favored the Nucleus. Now, after reading about the recall and checking their site and even reading more about some future 120 channel processor that is coming out, I may even go with AB. If you squimish and faint hearted and smilely face and you don't like reading things called facts then you can do the following: just don't read them. Thanks again for all the info and I'm still in dire need for more. Again, no Hugs pleeeze. I want facts: which one is the KIA and which one is the BMW.... @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > Please, put the AB recall to rest. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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