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Hi, All,

Just a note on the subject of maintaining residual hearing following

implantation. Nope - not me - not with the N24C and not with the Freedom.

There

wasn't much to lose in the first but I did have some worth noting in the most

recent ear implanted. I made the decision to go ahead, despite knowing I

could/would lose it in the interest of gaining much more. I'll let you know at

the end of the week if this works out, as I get hooked up on Wed/Thursday.

:o) Jackie

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Hi Jackie,

We'll all be waiting for that report too! Good Luck and please don't

make us wait long.

Regarding the subject of residual hearing - I do have some which I

find simply amazing.

Alice

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I'll let you know at

> the end of the week if this works out, as I get hooked up on

Wed/Thursday.

> :o) Jackie

>

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What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing you

have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, then they

say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been totally Deaf

before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another question I have is,

if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear mumbled sounds without

a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only amplify the mumbled

sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that ability to hear the

mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound source without the CI?

Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@...

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Ilana, If a person has residual hearing before getting a CI in that ear,

then if any of it is preserved, it will almost certainly be less than

previously.

In my opinion, saying they may be able to save some of your hearing is done

as a selling point. A lot of people shy away from getting a CI because they

don't want to lose the hearing in that ear.

Ralph

CII 8/01

HiRes 2/03

> What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing

> you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost,

> then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been

> totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another

> question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can

> hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech

> clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will

> you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing

> your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M

> 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@...

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Hi Ilana, Manufacturers work at trying to design electrodes that can be

inserted without doing any damage to the remaining functioning hair cells

and structure of the cochlea. Cochlear Corporation came up with the soft

tip contour design with this in mind along with the concept of getting the

electrode placed as closely as possible to the inner most wall of the

cochlea which places it the closest possible to the hearing nerve giving it

better power and stimulation results.

Ralph, if you search the internet, you will find there are studies that have

proven that the design of the electrode indeed determines the degree of

cochlea damage. Maintaining residual hearing for the purpose of

functionality might not be a reasonable expectation, as obviously if the

residual hearing were functional, why would one want to get a CI in the

first place. However, I would think that the more intact the cochlea is and

the more surviving hair cells there might be the better results a person

might get from the CI stimulation. I wouldn't brush it off as a " marketing "

ploy as all of the companies are working hard and spending huge amounts of

research dollars to find the ultimate electrode solution.

Just my thoughts,

Ruth Fox

19 years of wonderful hearing with my CI

6 fantastic upgrades

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Ilana2@...

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:44 AM

NUCLEUS FORUM;

Subject: Residual Hearing

What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing

you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost,

then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been

totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another

question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can

hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer

it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still

have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next

to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus

Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2yebo (DOT) <mailto:Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> co.za

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Hi Ilana, Manufacturers work hard at trying to design electrodes that can be

inserted without doing any damage to the remaining functioning hair cells

and structure of the cochlea. Cochlear Corporation came up with the soft

tip contour design with this in mind along with the concept of getting the

electrode placed as closely as possible to the inner most wall of the

cochlea which places it the closest possible to the hearing nerve giving it

better power and stimulation results.

Maintaining residual hearing for the purpose of functionality might not be a

reasonable expectation, as obviously if the residual hearing were

functional, why would one want to get a CI in the first place. However, I

would think that the more intact the cochlea is and the more surviving hair

cells there are, might improve the results a person might get from the CI

stimulation.

Just my thoughts,

Ruth Fox

19 years of wonderful hearing with my CI

6 fantastic upgrades

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Ilana2@...

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:44 AM

NUCLEUS FORUM;

Subject: Residual Hearing

What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing

you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost,

then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been

totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another

question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can

hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer

it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still

have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next

to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus

Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2yebo (DOT) <mailto:Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> co.za

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maybe you get your hearing back when the electrodes are remove since minimal

damage is done to the cochlea?

Regards,

Jerome

On 12/16/06, Ilana2@... <Ilana2@...> wrote:

>

> What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual

> hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is

> lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have

> been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve.

> Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you

> can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech

> clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you

> still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear

> next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00

> Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... <Ilana2%40yebo.co.za>

>

>

>

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Ilana your question is a very good one and one that is difficult to answer. The

CI manufacturers say that the CI is designed to help preserve any residual

hearing, however, there are no guarantees and thus everyone should understand

this before having surgery. I has so little residual hearing in my implanted

ear that it didn't matter.

I will be very interested to see if I have any residual hearing left after my

bilateral implant as my " good " ear will be implanted. Again my " good " ear has

residual hearing, however, it has very little and no work comprehension.

Connie

Ilana2@... wrote:

What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual

hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is

lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been

totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another

question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear

mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only

amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that

ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound

source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06

Ilana2@...

" The Miracle at Ohio State "

aka Nucleus Freedom

Implanted 10/04/2005

Activated 11/1/2005

Surgery: Ohio State University

Surgeon: Dr. Bradley Welling

http://internalmedicine.osu.edu/article.cfm?ID=2021

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The electrodes are not removed. They work in absence

of functional cilia (sp?) on the cochlea. Without

them, the process would fall apart.

Deb

--- Jerome Tan <tan.jerome@...> wrote:

> maybe you get your hearing back when the electrodes

> are remove since minimal

> damage is done to the cochlea?

>

> Regards,

> Jerome

>

> On 12/16/06, Ilana2@... <Ilana2@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > What do they mean that CIs are designed to

> preserve what residual

> > hearing you have? If they promote that statement

> and all residual hearing is

> > lost, then they say: it might happen that residual

> hearing is lost. I have

> > been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't

> need to 'try' preserve.

> > Another question I have is, if a person have

> residual hearing with which you

> > can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA

> doesn't help to make speech

> > clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the

> aboue situation) will you

> > still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds

> without placing your ear

> > next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana

> Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00

> > Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@...

> <Ilana2%40yebo.co.za>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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not all residual hearing is gone, some people still have residual hearing

but no longer useful

On 12/17/06, bertipeeters <Berti.Peeters@...> wrote:

>

> strange.....I thought that once you get a CI, what is left as residual

> hearing will be lost because of the implant.....

> or has this changed then?

>

> berti

>

>

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Illana,

Retention of residual hearing varies from person to person. Following my CI

surgery, I lost all of my residual hearing (which allowed me to hear loud

environmental sounds with HAs) rendering me completely deaf when my

processors are off. I would think that any residual hearing one retains

after surgery would be so minimal that it wouldn't be functional except in

cases where someone is speaking directly into a person's implanted ear.

There may be cases where people retained higher degrees of residual hearing,

but I am unaware of them.

Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

Deafblind/Postlingual

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