Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hi, All, Just a note on the subject of maintaining residual hearing following implantation. Nope - not me - not with the N24C and not with the Freedom. There wasn't much to lose in the first but I did have some worth noting in the most recent ear implanted. I made the decision to go ahead, despite knowing I could/would lose it in the interest of gaining much more. I'll let you know at the end of the week if this works out, as I get hooked up on Wed/Thursday. ) Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hi Jackie, We'll all be waiting for that report too! Good Luck and please don't make us wait long. Regarding the subject of residual hearing - I do have some which I find simply amazing. Alice http://www..com I'll let you know at > the end of the week if this works out, as I get hooked up on Wed/Thursday. > ) Jackie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Ilana, If a person has residual hearing before getting a CI in that ear, then if any of it is preserved, it will almost certainly be less than previously. In my opinion, saying they may be able to save some of your hearing is done as a selling point. A lot of people shy away from getting a CI because they don't want to lose the hearing in that ear. Ralph CII 8/01 HiRes 2/03 > What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing > you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, > then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been > totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another > question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can > hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech > clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will > you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing > your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M > 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hi Ilana, Manufacturers work at trying to design electrodes that can be inserted without doing any damage to the remaining functioning hair cells and structure of the cochlea. Cochlear Corporation came up with the soft tip contour design with this in mind along with the concept of getting the electrode placed as closely as possible to the inner most wall of the cochlea which places it the closest possible to the hearing nerve giving it better power and stimulation results. Ralph, if you search the internet, you will find there are studies that have proven that the design of the electrode indeed determines the degree of cochlea damage. Maintaining residual hearing for the purpose of functionality might not be a reasonable expectation, as obviously if the residual hearing were functional, why would one want to get a CI in the first place. However, I would think that the more intact the cochlea is and the more surviving hair cells there might be the better results a person might get from the CI stimulation. I wouldn't brush it off as a " marketing " ploy as all of the companies are working hard and spending huge amounts of research dollars to find the ultimate electrode solution. Just my thoughts, Ruth Fox 19 years of wonderful hearing with my CI 6 fantastic upgrades _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ilana2@... Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:44 AM NUCLEUS FORUM; Subject: Residual Hearing What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2yebo (DOT) <mailto:Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> co.za Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hi Ilana, Manufacturers work hard at trying to design electrodes that can be inserted without doing any damage to the remaining functioning hair cells and structure of the cochlea. Cochlear Corporation came up with the soft tip contour design with this in mind along with the concept of getting the electrode placed as closely as possible to the inner most wall of the cochlea which places it the closest possible to the hearing nerve giving it better power and stimulation results. Maintaining residual hearing for the purpose of functionality might not be a reasonable expectation, as obviously if the residual hearing were functional, why would one want to get a CI in the first place. However, I would think that the more intact the cochlea is and the more surviving hair cells there are, might improve the results a person might get from the CI stimulation. Just my thoughts, Ruth Fox 19 years of wonderful hearing with my CI 6 fantastic upgrades _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ilana2@... Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:44 AM NUCLEUS FORUM; Subject: Residual Hearing What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2yebo (DOT) <mailto:Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> co.za Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 strange.....I thought that once you get a CI, what is left as residual hearing will be lost because of the implant..... or has this changed then? berti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 maybe you get your hearing back when the electrodes are remove since minimal damage is done to the cochlea? Regards, Jerome On 12/16/06, Ilana2@... <Ilana2@...> wrote: > > What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual > hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is > lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have > been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. > Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you > can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech > clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you > still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear > next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 > Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... <Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Ilana your question is a very good one and one that is difficult to answer. The CI manufacturers say that the CI is designed to help preserve any residual hearing, however, there are no guarantees and thus everyone should understand this before having surgery. I has so little residual hearing in my implanted ear that it didn't matter. I will be very interested to see if I have any residual hearing left after my bilateral implant as my " good " ear will be implanted. Again my " good " ear has residual hearing, however, it has very little and no work comprehension. Connie Ilana2@... wrote: What do they mean that CIs are designed to preserve what residual hearing you have? If they promote that statement and all residual hearing is lost, then they say: it might happen that residual hearing is lost. I have been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't need to 'try' preserve. Another question I have is, if a person have residual hearing with which you can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA doesn't help to make speech clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the aboue situation) will you still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds without placing your ear next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... " The Miracle at Ohio State " aka Nucleus Freedom Implanted 10/04/2005 Activated 11/1/2005 Surgery: Ohio State University Surgeon: Dr. Bradley Welling http://internalmedicine.osu.edu/article.cfm?ID=2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 The electrodes are not removed. They work in absence of functional cilia (sp?) on the cochlea. Without them, the process would fall apart. Deb --- Jerome Tan <tan.jerome@...> wrote: > maybe you get your hearing back when the electrodes > are remove since minimal > damage is done to the cochlea? > > Regards, > Jerome > > On 12/16/06, Ilana2@... <Ilana2@...> > wrote: > > > > What do they mean that CIs are designed to > preserve what residual > > hearing you have? If they promote that statement > and all residual hearing is > > lost, then they say: it might happen that residual > hearing is lost. I have > > been totally Deaf before my CIs so they didn't > need to 'try' preserve. > > Another question I have is, if a person have > residual hearing with which you > > can hear mumbled sounds without a HA (the HA > doesn't help to make speech > > clearer it only amplify the mumbled sounds, in the > aboue situation) will you > > still have that ability to hear the mumbled sounds > without placing your ear > > next to the sound source without the CI? Ilana > Deaf-Blind N24M 8/5/00 > > Nucleus Freedom 8/5/06 Ilana2@... > <Ilana2%40yebo.co.za> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 not all residual hearing is gone, some people still have residual hearing but no longer useful On 12/17/06, bertipeeters <Berti.Peeters@...> wrote: > > strange.....I thought that once you get a CI, what is left as residual > hearing will be lost because of the implant..... > or has this changed then? > > berti > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Illana, Retention of residual hearing varies from person to person. Following my CI surgery, I lost all of my residual hearing (which allowed me to hear loud environmental sounds with HAs) rendering me completely deaf when my processors are off. I would think that any residual hearing one retains after surgery would be so minimal that it wouldn't be functional except in cases where someone is speaking directly into a person's implanted ear. There may be cases where people retained higher degrees of residual hearing, but I am unaware of them. Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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