Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 On another forum we were discussing the various ways to sign cochlear implant. One person mentioned that a character on CSI: NY fingerspelled the letters " C-I. " They wondered if this was a new way of signing cochlear implant or whether this usage has been around for awhile. When I used a tactile interpreter during my first CI evaluation, she fingerspelled the letters " C-I. " Another tactile interpreter I had at a different time during my evaluation used the " H " sign against the head. I've also had tactile interpreters who use the " vampire " sign on the head where the magnet goes. Personally, I've seen tactile interpreters, Deaf and deafblind people who have used all 3 signs. Since I use PSE with tactile interpreters, I wonder if fingerspelling the letters " C-I " is an English-based way of making this sign or if it was a neutral way of signing cochlear implant so as not to offend members of the Deaf community? I thought I remember my sign language instructor telling me at one point that the " vampire " and " H " signs were harsh ways of signing cochlear implant while fingerspelling the letters " C-I " was considered more polite/gentle. What variations of the sign have you seen? Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Hi , Over 16yrs ago, deaf community members signed CI in this way; First finger spell CI, then index finger and next finger stretched out and together, pressing behind the ear with a slight tilt to the head. The first time I saw it across the room two people signing to each other about me. I have not be exposed to signing in years so have no way of knowing if this is still used or even correct. Got the point across at the time. Michele Kozlik <lisak70@...> wrote: On another forum we were discussing the various ways to sign cochlear implant. One person mentioned that a character on CSI: NY fingerspelled the letters " C-I. " They wondered if this was a new way of signing cochlear implant or whether this usage has been around for awhile. When I used a tactile interpreter during my first CI evaluation, she fingerspelled the letters " C-I. " Another tactile interpreter I had at a different time during my evaluation used the " H " sign against the head. I've also had tactile interpreters who use the " vampire " sign on the head where the magnet goes. Personally, I've seen tactile interpreters, Deaf and deafblind people who have used all 3 signs. Since I use PSE with tactile interpreters, I wonder if fingerspelling the letters " C-I " is an English-based way of making this sign or if it was a neutral way of signing cochlear implant so as not to offend members of the Deaf community? I thought I remember my sign language instructor telling me at one point that the " vampire " and " H " signs were harsh ways of signing cochlear implant while fingerspelling the letters " C-I " was considered more polite/gentle. What variations of the sign have you seen? Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hi, , Where I substitute teach, we use the bent forefinger " cupping " the ear for hearing aid and the " vampire " (forefinger and middle finger tapping above the ear) for CI. I've been told that some hard of hearing people don't like the " vampire " sign, but it works to differentiate it from a hearing aid in our neck of the woods. ) Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Jackie, From what I understand, the " vampire " sign has been used for many years and I agree that there needs to be some way to differentiate between the sign for HA and CI. Thanks for your reply! Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hi , One of my tactile interpreters used the same sign you described during my CI evaluation. From what my sign language instructor told me, using the " H " sign against the head or fingerspelling the letters " C-I " is a more gentle way of signing cochlear implant. I've seen all 3 signs, but wonder if one sign is used more extensively than another. I'll have to ask some people I know in our local Deaf community about this. Thanks for responding to my question! Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 HI Yes, I understand that the sign can be confusing especially when doing tacile interpreting. I am volunteer SSP for here in Indiana and Ohio. I try to think of other way to sign or spell if the sign is too close to be confused like this. The best way is to spell - CI just like that unless they do not know or familiar with cochlear implant. > > On another forum we were discussing the various ways to sign cochlear > implant. > > One person mentioned that a character on CSI: NY fingerspelled the letters > " C-I. " They wondered if this was a new way of signing cochlear implant or > whether this usage has been around for awhile. > > When I used a tactile interpreter during my first CI evaluation, she > fingerspelled the letters " C-I. " Another tactile interpreter I had at a > different time during my evaluation used the " H " sign against the head. I've > also had tactile interpreters who use the " vampire " sign on the head where > the magnet goes. > > Personally, I've seen tactile interpreters, Deaf and deafblind people who > have used all 3 signs. > > Since I use PSE with tactile interpreters, I wonder if fingerspelling the > letters " C-I " is an English-based way of making this sign or if it was a > neutral way of signing cochlear implant so as not to offend members of the > Deaf community? I thought I remember my sign language instructor telling me > at one point that the " vampire " and " H " signs were harsh ways of signing > cochlear implant while fingerspelling the letters " C-I " was considered more > polite/gentle. > > What variations of the sign have you seen? > > > > Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE > Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 > > Right ear - Nucleus Freedom > Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 > > Deafblind/Postlingual > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 , Thanks for your reply! That's also one of the things I was taught by my sign language instructor (i.e. using a sign that is comfortable to the Deaf or deafblind person). When it comes to tactile sign, some signs are altered slightly (or fingerspelled) to make them easier to recognize tactually. Also, the visual elements of ASL (such as facial expression) are replaced by descriptors which describe a person's body language, facial expression and/or voice. Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Thank you for ask me about this type of SEE book. It has lot of words like 4,400 in one sign language book. This one is make exact english like hearing or normal people are using written in language and also communication. But I will give you the website to explain you better and also let you see which book I am going to paste it so you can see what this book is look like if you seen or not seen one type of book before and also I am giving you the information about S.E.E. center on homepage and go down to stroll and it tell you more and explain you about few different things to explain and hope it helps you better and let me know if you have problem try get website for two different areas to work. One store is like show you book on same place but alittle bit different address is look at this one about book that i am using http://www.oc2net.com/modsign/ProductDetail.asp? ProductID=11 & DepartmentID= & CategoryID=21 & MerchantID=15000 & RepID= & Baske tID= plus it is modsigns.com for store online and also other information is tell you informations like for everyone as parents,teachers and other all too and tell you about lot different informations and research thing is about S.E.E. Center is http://www.seecenter.org/index.html but if you want to type www.seecenter.org then click it and you will see the homepage or something. I hope you able get through website and click on these addresses where I paste as quick for you see quick it is work through these addresses. HOpe it helps you and let me know if you have any questions or able not get through websites or the book look like and let me know. Thanks Colleen > > Colleen, > > Thanks for sharing that information! Can you tell me what SEE II is? I've > heard of SEE I and SEE II, but do not understand the difference between the > two. When I used tactile interpreters in the past, I used PSE (and sometimes > SEE). > > > > Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE > Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 > > Right ear - Nucleus Freedom > Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 > > Deafblind/Postlingual > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Connie, Thanks for your explanation of SEE II and the S.E.E. Center website! <smile> Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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