Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dixie, Well said. Good points all around. said " Am I missing something here? This is truly a profound difference in technology folks! " And my comment is, its a profound difference only to the engineers who work on the guts and brains of our devices. What is truly profound is that we benefit from whatever technology we have in our heads. You know what they say, Speed Kills. Well maybe not in this case but yeah, I agree, the difference in the speed here is not so profound. Some day there will be another study done on this, should be interesting. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Chaos, panic and disorder ... my work here is done. & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 , I've heard that the 90K requires more overall power than Cochlear's N24 or Freedom which may explain the differences between each in regards to PPS. Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05 Right ear - Nucleus Freedom Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06 Deafblind/Postlingual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I beg to differ - a faster processing strategy is definatley going to provide better sound - especially soudn DETAILS! I can attest to personal experiences while in the Harmony trial - i wasn't just hearing my daughter cry over the baby monitor, I was hearing the TYPE of cry. While out on a date with my wife, I wasn't just hearing her talk to me, i was UNDERSTANDING her amid all the chatter, and general restuarant noises. It's all about the details folks - faster is better. Royer Advanced Bionics CI > > Hi , > > I read your post and wondered if you felt that 90K PPS was needed to > hear sound and have great performance with any CI? For the AB > product, it may be needed for their device, but for Cochlear > (Nucleus) it's not needed with their technology. I think it's > exciting for any product to upgrade to technology that is needed to > better the ability to hear, but it's only good for that product and > does not apply to other technologies for other companies. So when > you compare technology of one company next to another, it's a moot > point since it's not the same. I've met many users of all brands of > CI's through the years and was familiar with CI technology as well. > I've found users of all three brands that did not do well with the > latest and most current of all processes with what that company has > to offer, and that is with having the aptitude of being able to hear > well and no problems prior to having the implant. Speed may be > important with your device and how it works, but for Cochlear America > devices, most people have found that a slower speed works better for > them. There may be some relation to the terminology of slower vs > faster. We think of slow as well, slow...not up to par, a little > behind... fast as speed, progression faster, etc. Again, this is > only important to the device and that particular brand. So saying > it's a truly profound difference only applies to the implant you > have. You and I have had a similar hearing loss history. I wore one > aid in my left ear for 23 yrs. My right ear was never aided and that > was the ear I had implanted. Our (yours and mine) is on the same > scale of 92-93% at 3 months post activation, at the end of 6 months, > mine was even higher. One difference is that your ear was aided > prior to a CI, mine was not. You wore a hearing aid for 18 yrs in > your implanted ear. We both had 0 speech discrimination in our > implanted ear. While I prefer ACE 900 speed and find anything over > 900 to be totally overwhelming, you are on a fast speed that wouldn't > apply to the technology I use at all. I'd imagine if I had the AB > implant, I'd probably like the speed you are using with your device. > > I hope this helps a bit in the explanation you were referring to in > your post. It's great when new technology comes around for any > product, but does not apply to other products or to say it would be > of value to another product if they designed the same with their > existing technology. I'm sure if Cochlear Americas felt that having > 90K PPS in their technology would help with better hearing, it would > already have been designed and in use long, long ago. They are the > world leaders in implants and I'm sure they know what they are doing. > > I'm glad hearing is better with what new technology is available for > everyone with every device and let us all hope it continues for each > company for more advancement for us all. > > Dixie > > one thing that truly sticks out on this chart is AB's 90,000 PPS > (Pulses Per Second) VS. Cochlear's 18,182 PPS. Am I missing > something here? This is truly a profound difference in technology > folks! > > Royer > Advanced Bionics CI > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Mike - What is working well for you is exciting. I know from my own personal experience that I have tried higher speeds of ACE. These rates were done as trials. By this, I mean that I had to try each rate of speed for 3 weeks. I didn't know what speed was on each map. When I went back to the audiologist, I let her know which map gave me the best hearing in all types of situations. To my surprise, I found that I do so much better on a slower speed of ACE and I'm talking about those same DETAILS that you are mentioning. I totally expected my chosen map to be the highest speed. You will never know how you would have done on a slower ACE speed but you do know that you do better with the faster rate you are currently using with the Harmony. It really does boil down to different technologies from different implant companies. Let's be happy for each other. This is a special time of year and one that we as CI users can especially enjoy with our gift of sound. There are few better gifts. Congratulations to you and your wonderful accomplishments. Alice http://www..com > > I beg to differ - a faster processing strategy is definatley going to > provide better sound - especially soudn DETAILS! I can attest to > personal experiences while in the Harmony trial - i wasn't just > hearing my daughter cry over the baby monitor, I was hearing the TYPE > of cry. While out on a date with my wife, I wasn't just hearing her > talk to me, i was UNDERSTANDING her amid all the chatter, and general > restuarant noises. It's all about the details folks - faster is better. > > Royer > Advanced Bionics CI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 We all need to recognize the fact that has found that he hears with a fast rate of speed. He's been activated for 2 years and just now is able to hear in noisy situations and distinguish the sound of his child's cry because he has been mapped with the speed he needs to gain that sound. This is exciting and indeed a CI moment. It also proves that we can improve and note positive changes in our hearing even two years (or more) later. It also shows us how grateful we should be for upgrades and implant companies that are constantly working to improve the devices we use. Alice http://www..com > > > I beg to differ - a faster processing strategy is > > definatley going to > > provide better sound - especially soudn DETAILS! I > > can attest to > > personal experiences while in the Harmony trial - i > > wasn't just > > hearing my daughter cry over the baby monitor, I was > > hearing the TYPE > > of cry. While out on a date with my wife, I wasn't > > just hearing her > > talk to me, i was UNDERSTANDING her amid all the > > chatter, and general > > restuarant noises. It's all about the details folks > > - faster is better. > > > > Royer > > Advanced Bionics CI > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 " All I can do is say thank you to all the unknown people whose hard work went into making my deaf ears hear. Every time I read a story, or hear a CI user sharing CI moments, it warms my heart. " Ruth, we can all say a hearty 'AMEN' to that!!! Steve > > > > > I beg to differ - a faster processing strategy is > > > definatley going to > > > provide better sound - especially soudn DETAILS! I > > > can attest to > > > personal experiences while in the Harmony trial - i > > > wasn't just > > > hearing my daughter cry over the baby monitor, I was > > > hearing the TYPE > > > of cry. While out on a date with my wife, I wasn't > > > just hearing her > > > talk to me, i was UNDERSTANDING her amid all the > > > chatter, and general > > > restuarant noises. It's all about the details folks > > > - faster is better. > > > > > > Royer > > > Advanced Bionics CI > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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