Re: Recruitment and tinnitus?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have great news for you. I had severe recruitment and tinnitus in

my left ear from Meniere's disease. I too was unable to wear a

hearing aid in that ear due to the recruitment. My left ear was

implanted on 11/3/05 and it was activated on 12/3/05. I have had no

problems with recruitment even with very loud mapping programs.

Even thought that ear was essentially deaf for over 35 years I am

hearing very well and my family and I are thrilled with the results.

The other good news is my tinnitus is much improved since the

activation.

Best regards,

Jim

>

> Hi all,

>

>

>

> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

cochlear

> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

implantation? Or do

> you know of people who have had recruitment?

>

>

>

> When I had the sudden increase in my hearing loss 4 months ago now

a by

> product of that was severe recruitment and tinnitus, I guess from

damage to

> the little hair nerves inside my ears. I do have a little hearing

left in

> that ear but cannot wear a hearing aid because the recruitment

makes it

> unbearable. The tinnitus I can live with even though it is

annoying 24

> hours.

>

>

>

> It just seems hard to imagine that things will get better. I have

the

> meeting with the surgeon next week so I am looking forward to that.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim and ,

May I asks what is recruitment in the ear is?

I heard of tinnitus but not recruitment.

Thank you for any info on this subject.

Dolly Dolphin

Jim wrote:

Hi ,

I have great news for you. I had severe recruitment and tinnitus in

my left ear from Meniere's disease. I too was unable to wear a

hearing aid in that ear due to the recruitment. My left ear was

implanted on 11/3/05 and it was activated on 12/3/05. I have had no

problems with recruitment even with very loud mapping programs.

Even thought that ear was essentially deaf for over 35 years I am

hearing very well and my family and I are thrilled with the results.

The other good news is my tinnitus is much improved since the

activation.

Best regards,

Jim

[Guest guest]

Hi Dolly:

Recruitment is a problem that only occurs with sensorineural hearing

loss. With recruitment normal environmental sounds, like dishes

rattling, become magnified and excruciatingly painful. Here is a

link to an article that explains recruitment very well:

http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

I was going to respond to your question about flying after CI

surgery, but Pam beat me to it. I also live in Anchorage, Alaska

and I flew home four days after the surgery without any problems.

Best regards,

Jim

>

> Hi ,

>

> I have great news for you. I had severe recruitment and tinnitus

in

> my left ear from Meniere's disease. I too was unable to wear a

> hearing aid in that ear due to the recruitment. My left ear was

> implanted on 11/3/05 and it was activated on 12/3/05. I have had

no

> problems with recruitment even with very loud mapping programs.

> Even thought that ear was essentially deaf for over 35 years I am

> hearing very well and my family and I are thrilled with the

results.

> The other good news is my tinnitus is much improved since the

> activation.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jim for explaining what recruitment is and for giving me the website

to read it up.

I am glad the CI has help you to hear without hurting your ear.

Dolly Dolphin waving her fins to Jim

Jim wrote:

Hi Dolly:

Recruitment is a problem that only occurs with sensorineural hearing

loss. With recruitment normal environmental sounds, like dishes

rattling, become magnified and excruciatingly painful. Here is a

link to an article that explains recruitment very well:

http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

I was going to respond to your question about flying after CI

surgery, but Pam beat me to it. I also live in Anchorage, Alaska

and I flew home four days after the surgery without any problems.

Best regards,

Jim

[Guest guest]

I had recruitment in my ears prior to being implanted. Now I have the

implant in my right ear and a digital hearing aid in the left which I just

received

about 4 weeks ago. There is no longer any recruitment in the implanted ear

because the processor has upper limits that are set by you and the audie so that

you are comfortable with loud noises. Any sound that is louder than the set

comfort level gets " squished down " by the processor.

The digital hearing aid also does that to some degree. If I have to hear an

ambulance cmong down the street, it's not as loud in the implanted ear as in

the HA ear....but that's been ok. I hadn't worn anything in my unimplanted ear

fopr 5 years so now I have to wake up that hearing nerve again. I'll have to

wait and see how things change in my HA ear.

I have always had tinnitus and still do, in both ears. I learned to live

with it a long time ago so it is not an issue for me.

N24C 9/28/2000 R ear

Sumo 1/6/2006 L ear

In a message dated 1/21/2006 6:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

prdavies@... writes:

Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your cochlear

implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after implantation? Or do

you know of people who have had recruitment?

[Guest guest]

Recruitment was like this for me: My audigram showed that I could not hear a

certain sound until it was, let's say, 85 dB loud. But at that loudness it

was too painful for me to tolerate.

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

What is recruitment? Larry

Re: Recruitment and tinnitus?

> Hi ,

>

> I have great news for you. I had severe recruitment and tinnitus in

> my left ear from Meniere's disease. I too was unable to wear a

> hearing aid in that ear due to the recruitment. My left ear was

> implanted on 11/3/05 and it was activated on 12/3/05. I have had no

> problems with recruitment even with very loud mapping programs.

> Even thought that ear was essentially deaf for over 35 years I am

> hearing very well and my family and I are thrilled with the results.

> The other good news is my tinnitus is much improved since the

> activation.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>>

>> Hi all,

>>

>>

>>

>> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

> cochlear

>> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

> implantation? Or do

>> you know of people who have had recruitment?

>>

>>

>>

>> When I had the sudden increase in my hearing loss 4 months ago now

> a by

>> product of that was severe recruitment and tinnitus, I guess from

> damage to

>> the little hair nerves inside my ears. I do have a little hearing

> left in

>> that ear but cannot wear a hearing aid because the recruitment

> makes it

>> unbearable. The tinnitus I can live with even though it is

> annoying 24

>> hours.

>>

>>

>>

>> It just seems hard to imagine that things will get better. I have

> the

>> meeting with the surgeon next week so I am looking forward to that.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hey Larry,

Look at post 41858

Jim

> >>

> >> Hi all,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

> > cochlear

> >> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

> > implantation? Or do

> >> you know of people who have had recruitment?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> When I had the sudden increase in my hearing loss 4 months ago

now

> > a by

> >> product of that was severe recruitment and tinnitus, I guess

from

> > damage to

> >> the little hair nerves inside my ears. I do have a little

hearing

> > left in

> >> that ear but cannot wear a hearing aid because the recruitment

> > makes it

> >> unbearable. The tinnitus I can live with even though it is

> > annoying 24

> >> hours.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> It just seems hard to imagine that things will get better. I

have

> > the

> >> meeting with the surgeon next week so I am looking forward to

that.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

From what I understand recruitment is caused by damage to the

cochlear hair cells and since the CI bypasses them it essentially

cures the problem. My audie has turned up my mappings to full

volume and I've had no problem with recruitment. Here is an

interesting article on how recruitment works.

http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

Best regards,

Jim

>

> I had recruitment in my ears prior to being implanted. Now I have

the

> implant in my right ear and a digital hearing aid in the left

which I just received

> about 4 weeks ago. There is no longer any recruitment in the

implanted ear

> because the processor has upper limits that are set by you and the

audie so that

> you are comfortable with loud noises. Any sound that is louder

than the set

> comfort level gets " squished down " by the processor.

>

> The digital hearing aid also does that to some degree. If I have

to hear an

> ambulance cmong down the street, it's not as loud in the implanted

ear as in

> the HA ear....but that's been ok. I hadn't worn anything in my

unimplanted ear

> fopr 5 years so now I have to wake up that hearing nerve again.

I'll have to

> wait and see how things change in my HA ear.

>

> I have always had tinnitus and still do, in both ears. I learned

to live

> with it a long time ago so it is not an issue for me.

>

>

> N24C 9/28/2000 R ear

> Sumo 1/6/2006 L ear

>

> In a message dated 1/21/2006 6:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> prdavies@w... writes:

> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

cochlear

> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

implantation? Or do

> you know of people who have had recruitment?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I did not have recruitment, but suffered from Tullio's Phenomenon

which caused me to have severe vertigo attacks due to sound coming

from my hearing aid.

I'm happy to say that I no longer experience the vertigo, and as my

surgeon explained, it would probably not be a problem for me anymore

since sound was being sent directly to my auditory nerve and

bypassing the middle ear, where the suspected dihensence was thought

to be.

Freedom 9/21/05 HOOKED!!

>

> Hi all,

>

>

>

> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

cochlear

> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

implantation? Or do

> you know of people who have had recruitment?

>

>

>

> When I had the sudden increase in my hearing loss 4 months ago now

a by

> product of that was severe recruitment and tinnitus, I guess from

damage to

> the little hair nerves inside my ears. I do have a little hearing

left in

> that ear but cannot wear a hearing aid because the recruitment

makes it

> unbearable. The tinnitus I can live with even though it is

annoying 24

> hours.

>

>

>

> It just seems hard to imagine that things will get better. I have

the

> meeting with the surgeon next week so I am looking forward to that.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jim. This was a good article about recruitment, and I

appreciate the link. Larry

Re: Recruitment and tinnitus?

> Hi ,

>

> From what I understand recruitment is caused by damage to the

> cochlear hair cells and since the CI bypasses them it essentially

> cures the problem. My audie has turned up my mappings to full

> volume and I've had no problem with recruitment. Here is an

> interesting article on how recruitment works.

>

> http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

>

>>

>> I had recruitment in my ears prior to being implanted. Now I have

> the

>> implant in my right ear and a digital hearing aid in the left

> which I just received

>> about 4 weeks ago. There is no longer any recruitment in the

> implanted ear

>> because the processor has upper limits that are set by you and the

> audie so that

>> you are comfortable with loud noises. Any sound that is louder

> than the set

>> comfort level gets " squished down " by the processor.

>>

>> The digital hearing aid also does that to some degree. If I have

> to hear an

>> ambulance cmong down the street, it's not as loud in the implanted

> ear as in

>> the HA ear....but that's been ok. I hadn't worn anything in my

> unimplanted ear

>> fopr 5 years so now I have to wake up that hearing nerve again.

> I'll have to

>> wait and see how things change in my HA ear.

>>

>> I have always had tinnitus and still do, in both ears. I learned

> to live

>> with it a long time ago so it is not an issue for me.

>>

>>

>> N24C 9/28/2000 R ear

>> Sumo 1/6/2006 L ear

>>

>> In a message dated 1/21/2006 6:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>> prdavies@w... writes:

>> Just wondering if any of you had severe recruitment before your

> cochlear

>> implant and whether it was successfully bypassed after

> implantation? Or do

>> you know of people who have had recruitment?

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

Thank you so much for such an interesting topic with lots of discussion

regarding " recruitment " .....I have this and Meniere's so I am looking

forward to having my CI surgery soon.....how wonderful to be able to

hear much better than I have in so many years. Understanding speech is

my first priority but later on I do hope music will begin to sound more

normal. Music is a very painful sound to me so I don't listen to it or

turn off my hearing aids if it is playing. You have given me hope!

Thanks,

Gardner

>

>

> From what I understand recruitment is caused by damage to the

> cochlear hair cells and since the CI bypasses them it essentially

> cures the problem. My audie has turned up my mappings to full

> volume and I've had no problem with recruitment. Here is an

> interesting article on how recruitment works.

>

> http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think someone else actually started the topic asking about

recruitment, tinnitus and the CI. I have certainly contributed to

the topic though lol. I have bilateral Meniere's disease. I am

happy to report that Meniere's patients do very well with CIs. I

had my surgery on 11/3/05 in my worst ear (left). Prior to the

surgery I had severe recruitment, severe distortion and bad

tinnitus. The surgery esstentially cured the recruitment and

distortion and markedly improved the tinnitus. I had been

esstentially deaf in that ear for over 35 years. I was blessed in

being able to understand voice during my initial activation. Music

is harder and has taken a lot more work, but I am very happy with

the progress. Music is sounding so much richer now than it ever did

with the hearing aid in my right ear. Good luck with your upcoming

surgery. I think you will be pleased with the results.

Best regards,

Jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> Thank you so much for such an interesting topic with lots of

discussion

> regarding " recruitment " .....I have this and Meniere's so I am

looking

> forward to having my CI surgery soon.....how wonderful to be able

to

> hear much better than I have in so many years. Understanding

speech is

> my first priority but later on I do hope music will begin to sound

more

> normal. Music is a very painful sound to me so I don't listen to

it or

> turn off my hearing aids if it is playing. You have given me hope!

>

> Thanks,

> Gardner

> >

>

> >

> > From what I understand recruitment is caused by damage to the

> > cochlear hair cells and since the CI bypasses them it

essentially

> > cures the problem. My audie has turned up my mappings to full

> > volume and I've had no problem with recruitment. Here is an

> > interesting article on how recruitment works.

> >

> > http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

are at the same stage and have communicated with each other about our

concerns as MMs patients, what the CI will do to our balance, tinnitus,

recruitment etc. I am a candidate with zero speech comp in both ears. NO

INSURANCE. Working with Voc Rehab to see if they will help, but while awaiting

their decision, I am trying to learn more from other MM people with CIs. Any

info you can offer will help. Doc is wanting to implant the " better ear " which

lost all hearing Aug 2005. But the worse ear has no vestibular function and the

worse TINNITUS!!! AAACCCK. So I am concerned about losing more balance (I

stagger like a drunk, use a cane at dark, fall frequently, but no vertigo

because of the destruction of my vest. syst.) And I would really like to get

relief from the AWFUL tinnitus in the worse ear.

But, I will do what the doc recommends, unless I really have good research or

info to the contrary. Thanks for your input.

Sherry

P.S. Please reply to sl.mason@... because I get so many emails in

that they get lost in the pileup!

ak_mustang2000 <ak_mustang2000@...> wrote:

Hi ,

I think someone else actually started the topic asking about

recruitment, tinnitus and the CI. I have certainly contributed to

the topic though lol. I have bilateral Meniere's disease. I am

happy to report that Meniere's patients do very well with CIs. I

had my surgery on 11/3/05 in my worst ear (left). Prior to the

surgery I had severe recruitment, severe distortion and bad

tinnitus. The surgery esstentially cured the recruitment and

distortion and markedly improved the tinnitus. I had been

esstentially deaf in that ear for over 35 years. I was blessed in

being able to understand voice during my initial activation. Music

is harder and has taken a lot more work, but I am very happy with

the progress. Music is sounding so much richer now than it ever did

with the hearing aid in my right ear. Good luck with your upcoming

surgery. I think you will be pleased with the results.

Best regards,

Jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> Thank you so much for such an interesting topic with lots of

discussion

> regarding " recruitment " .....I have this and Meniere's so I am

looking

> forward to having my CI surgery soon.....how wonderful to be able

to

> hear much better than I have in so many years. Understanding

speech is

> my first priority but later on I do hope music will begin to sound

more

> normal. Music is a very painful sound to me so I don't listen to

it or

> turn off my hearing aids if it is playing. You have given me hope!

>

> Thanks,

> Gardner

> >

>

> >

> > From what I understand recruitment is caused by damage to the

> > cochlear hair cells and since the CI bypasses them it

essentially

> > cures the problem. My audie has turned up my mappings to full

> > volume and I've had no problem with recruitment. Here is an

> > interesting article on how recruitment works.

> >

> > http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/recruitment.htm

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi ,

> . I have bilateral Meniere's disease. I am

> happy to report that Meniere's patients do very well with CIs. I

> had my surgery on 11/3/05 in my worst ear (left). .

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jim

Hi again Jim,

I believe you were the one who told me that after your CI surgery you

did not have as much balance problems with Meniere's? Thank you for

your encouraging email about how well Meniere's patients do with

CI's. I am going to have my worst ear implanted. Just heard from my

audi and I am next to get a CI....that is the good news. The bad

news is that the clinic normally has 5 audiologists and now down to

three so they have put CI surgery on hold until they hire two more

audi's.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That must have been someone else. What I said was my the CI did away

with my severe recruitment and severe distortion and improved my

tinnitus. It didn't do anything for my balance.

Jim

> >

> > Hi ,

> > . I have bilateral Meniere's disease. I am

> > happy to report that Meniere's patients do very well with CIs.

I

> > had my surgery on 11/3/05 in my worst ear (left). .

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jim

>

> Hi again Jim,

>

> I believe you were the one who told me that after your CI surgery

you

> did not have as much balance problems with Meniere's? Thank you

for

> your encouraging email about how well Meniere's patients do with

> CI's. I am going to have my worst ear implanted. Just heard from

my

> audi and I am next to get a CI....that is the good news. The bad

> news is that the clinic normally has 5 audiologists and now down

to

> three so they have put CI surgery on hold until they hire two more

> audi's.

>

>

>