Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Kim, Its nice to be able to help others but we certainly dont need to bring Mark into it do we? He is not here to tell us his story so lets leave him out of it. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face. --Jack Handley & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@... http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 There are people who are happy with AB and there are people who are happy with Nucleus and there are people who are happy with MedL. There are people who are not happy with AB and there are people who are not happy with Nucleus and there are people who are not happy with MedL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well said, Ruth. I started with SPEAK 9 years ago. And though I have tried ACE and CIS, I still prefer SPEAK, and that is what I use. Nice to have options if SPEAK didn't work for me. I, too, hear voices, music, environmental sounds, and can enjoy a full range of hearing, much like what I had with typical hearing (before getting hearing aids) Nothing wrong with SPEAK. I also upgraded to the 3G from the Esprit BTE when it became available. I was astounded at how well the telecoil feature worked. Because I never used it on my hearing aid. That feature alone was worth the upgrade. As you said, there are many ways to improve speech perception, and other sounds. Good that nobody gets left behind by technology. The Original Posted by: " Ruth Ilean Fox " rifox@... ruthifox Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:16 am (PST) Though SPEAK may be the latest program language for the N22 electrode, it was the 4th program upgrade I experienced as a user of the N22. It was also the program with which I was able to resume playing my violin well enough to play in a symphony and to do a few solo performances. It was the program (as did the previous programs) that allowed me to talk with ease with the parents of my students, both in noisy settings, and over the telephone. It was the program that allowed me to walk through the woods along side of Lake Michigan, with huge sand dues between me and the lake, yet hearing the children playing on the beach and the waves crashing, along with the leaves crunching under my feet, the birds singing and my friend talking, easily recognizing each sound from the rich quality of those sounds. It was the program that allowed me to hear all 88 keys on my piano, and complain because it was out of tune. It is always nice to have researchers improving on a good thing. They added CIS to Nucleus programming strategies, and then took it a step further and combined CIS with that SPEAK program, and made ACE, giving us the best of SPEAK and of CIS. Rates options have been added but many of us still don't max out the rates available on the N24, because as researcher's have found, faster isn't always better. But the option is there, if for someone, it is better. Researchers have been looking at the virtual channel option for years. To my knowledge as far back as the Ineraid which is now obsolete. It could be further. It is an option for all of the Nucleus electrodes, but it didn't produce enough gain in performance so Cochlear went a different way. The program language might still be SPEAK for N22 users, but many many people in my CI groups that upgraded to the 3G from their BWP, have spoken of how much better they can hear. The program language isn't the only way to improve listening. Newer technology within the processors themselves has been made available to all Nucleus users in a timely fashion. I think all CI companies should work so that all of their users are able to wear the latest in processors, regardless of electrode, with all of the added features that come with them. Ruth, 19 years with CI hearing (13 with the N22 until removed for MRI) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 HI Kim, this is a 14 (l992) year old article that speaks of using the Ineraid subject to study virtual channels. http://www.rti.org/reports/capr/N01-DC-2-2401QPR01.pdf And this is an undated study using Ineraid recipients: http://www.utdallas.edu/~loizou/cimplants/virtual.pdf There are more but I don't have time to list them. You can do the same Google search that I did. Ruth _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kmbrownen Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: Re: N22 Question Ruth Please show me some documentation that the Ineraid had Vitual Channels. The Ineraid device was the foundation of the beginning of CIS and that was as far as it was taken. I have been through numerous papers on the Ineraid and the terminology of virtual channels is not even known back in the 1980s. So I ask - please show me some prrof of this statement Ruth: Researchers have been looking at the virtual channel option for years. To my knowledge as far back as the Ineraid which is now obsolete. It could be further. It is an option for all of the Nucleus electrodes, but it didn't produce enough gain in performance so Cochlear went a different way. Kim B Advanced Bionics CI > > Though SPEAK may be the latest program language for the N22 electrode, it > was the 4th program upgrade I experienced as a user of the N22. It was also > the program with which I was able to resume playing my violin well enough to > play in a symphony and to do a few solo performances. It was the program > (as did the previous programs) that allowed me to talk with ease with the > parents of my students, both in noisy settings, and over the telephone. It > was the program that allowed me to walk through the woods along side of Lake > Michigan, with huge sand dues between me and the lake, yet hearing the > children playing on the beach and the waves crashing, along with the leaves > crunching under my feet, the birds singing and my friend talking, easily > recognizing each sound from the rich quality of those sounds. It was the > program that allowed me to hear all 88 keys on my piano, and complain > because it was out of tune. > > > > It is always nice to have researchers improving on a good thing. They added > CIS to Nucleus programming strategies, and then took it a step further and > combined CIS with that SPEAK program, and made ACE, giving us the best of > SPEAK and of CIS. Rates options have been added but many of us still don't > max out the rates available on the N24, because as researcher's have found, > faster isn't always better. But the option is there, if for someone, it is > better. Researchers have been looking at the virtual channel option for > years. To my knowledge as far back as the Ineraid which is now obsolete. > It could be further. It is an option for all of the Nucleus electrodes, but > it didn't produce enough gain in performance so Cochlear went a different > way. > > > > The program language might still be SPEAK for N22 users, but many many > people in my CI groups that upgraded to the 3G from their BWP, have spoken > of how much better they can hear. The program language isn't the only way > to improve listening. Newer technology within the processors themselves has > been made available to all Nucleus users in a timely fashion. I think all > CI companies should work so that all of their users are able to wear the > latest in processors, regardless of electrode, with all of the added > features that come with them. > > > > Ruth, 19 years with CI hearing (13 with the N22 until removed for MRI) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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