CI moments!!//Amish CI'ers

[Guest guest]

Wow, that is interesting, . I think it was around 1994 -1995 I

taught an Amish family ASL in Warren. I wonder if the little girl was

one of Dr. Rizer's patients. I remember her along with her immediate

family all attended my class. The girl hid under the table most of the

time. She also attended the deaf program in Warren. They were funny

and very nice. They told me there was one other deaf family member.

That is amazing that they would go for the CI.....well I suppose they

won't be using the rechargeable batteries, huh?!

>

> ,

> GREAT CI moments. And did you know the horses will turn right or

left

> depending on the " gee " and " haw " commands?

> My implant surgeon did a lot of implants on Amish and Mennonite

people

> in the Warren, OH area - near Pennsylvania. Why? Because sign language

> has " no part " of their culture. So they get CIs for their children.

> Amazing.

>

>

> The Original

> cindy4baskets@... luvinmyhonda

> Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:06 pm (PST)

> My mom, sister and I took a " road trip " today to Volant, PA, a quaint

> little town where many Amish people live. As I was walking out the door

> of a gift shop, I saw the first horse and buggy (Amish) and immediately

> heard the clip clop of the horses hooves. OH MY, what an

> AWESOME sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I stood there just soaking it all in with

> the happiest smile. That was my first time to ever hear that!!!!!! Mom

> was about to cry over my happiness. Then just when the magical moment

> passes, I hear the driver shout out " git, git " and a moment later, it

> registered in my brain that he was commanding the horse to move faster.

> COOL! Then we went to a restaurant and I heard an antique mantle clock

> chime every quarter hour while we were eating. What a

> day!! 2007 is on its way to sounding great!!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I also found this information interesting. I would have thought the Amish

would oppose CIs given the fact that they are a form of technology.

Evidently from what said, that's not the case.

Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE

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Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

Deafblind/Postlingual

[Guest guest]

I am very curious about this...the Amish, and signing

not being a part of their culture? Where can I find

out more? I don't see anything about it on the web.

Thanks!

Deb

--- <cindy4baskets@...> wrote:

> Wow, that is interesting, . I think it was

> around 1994 -1995 I

> taught an Amish family ASL in Warren. I wonder if

> the little girl was

> one of Dr. Rizer's patients. I remember her along

> with her immediate

> family all attended my class. The girl hid under the

> table most of the

> time. She also attended the deaf program in Warren.

> They were funny

> and very nice. They told me there was one other deaf

> family member.

> That is amazing that they would go for the

> CI.....well I suppose they

> won't be using the rechargeable batteries, huh?!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> > GREAT CI moments. And did you know the horses

> will turn right or

> left

> > depending on the " gee " and " haw " commands?

> > My implant surgeon did a lot of implants on

> Amish and Mennonite

> people

> > in the Warren, OH area - near Pennsylvania. Why?

> Because sign language

> > has " no part " of their culture. So they get CIs

> for their children.

> > Amazing.

> >

> >

> > The Original

> > cindy4baskets@... luvinmyhonda

> > Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:06 pm (PST)

> > My mom, sister and I took a " road trip " today to

> Volant, PA, a quaint

> > little town where many Amish people live. As I was

> walking out the door

> > of a gift shop, I saw the first horse and buggy

> (Amish) and immediately

> > heard the clip clop of the horses hooves. OH MY,

> what an

> > AWESOME sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I stood there just

> soaking it all in with

> > the happiest smile. That was my first time to ever

> hear that!!!!!! Mom

> > was about to cry over my happiness. Then just when

> the magical moment

> > passes, I hear the driver shout out " git, git " and

> a moment later, it

> > registered in my brain that he was commanding the

> horse to move faster.

> > COOL! Then we went to a restaurant and I heard an

> antique mantle clock

> > chime every quarter hour while we were eating.

> What a

> > day!! 2007 is on its way to sounding great!!!

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I, too, was amazed at the number of Amish who went for a CI, because I

thought they only did what was written in scripture. Where are the

chapter and verse that say CIs are OK? Of course they use hearing aids

when necessary, and wear glasses, neither of which was in the Bible. So

apparently the restrictions can be relaxed a bit.

I know during their " rumspringa " (a time when the teenagers get to cut

loose and drive, drink, engage in casual sex, etc) before becoming

confirmed, they try lots of things. The idea is that they know what they

are giving up when they take their confirmation vows. And I see that a

lot of the children's clothing now has snaps and buttons, where weren't

allowed in the past. Buttons being a sign of vanity. I asked a woman

how they kept their clothing together, and she said, " Straight pins " .

Well, don't you get stuck? " All the time " was her reply. So velcro,

snaps, and even some buttons are getting into the Amish way of life, but

no driving cars, having electricity, and such. But they will use cell

phones, or pay phones.

Interesting group of people. One of the largest groups is in Ohio.

Makes it interesting to see that a group as old fashioned and rooted

in Biblical tradition as the Amish would have cochlear implants, yet the

Cultural Deaf oppose them.

,

I also found this information interesting. I would have thought the Amish

would oppose CIs given the fact that they are a form of technology.

Evidently from what said, that's not the case.

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

There won't be much on the Amish on the web, because they don't USE

the web that often. Remember they don't have electricity, or phones in

their homes. Gas lights, and use a pay phone if required.

Not sure it is doctrine that they don't know ASL, but the family I

spoke to said that NOT being able to speak was something they were

against, so they'd do whatever was necessary to have their child oral.

In this case a CI. They did sign to the child, but only to emphasize

what they were speaking.

Since the Amish don't seek to convert anyone, they wouldn't have any

reason to advertise or otherwise promote themselves on the web.

You might check under " Old Order Amish " , or Mennonite - which is

similar, but drive cars and use buttons.

OR perhaps under " Plain People " . Amish pretty much stick to

themselves socially. A lot of their young girls work as house cleaners

and get rides to and from where they work. No prohibition on riding in

cars or busses.

The Original

I am very curious about this...the Amish, and signing

not being a part of their culture? Where can I find

out more? I don't see anything about it on the web.

Thanks!

Deb

[Guest guest]

It was interested about Amish. We did not know about that part. But

we does have Amish in our community area. I have not gone into their

Amish community to go few general stores and since we had not take

anyone to see for few years ago. Amish's relativity seen me and my

mother communicated in sign language then invitited and told us about

a deaf girl. But one time we met a deaf girl in their Amish but girl

did not had hearing aid. But her aunt was trying to interpter for her

in their own school in Amish but they were rather only do oral but

not know much sign language but one girl know alittle bit sign

language. But she learned from someone somewhere because she went to

deaf school but Amish told us before in one state Amish only go to

Amish school and deaf only go to deaf school. I dont remember which

state was about what Amish person told us. They do not know much

about how support they had but they want to kept deaf girl home and

go to their own Amish school and be with family so she was about

teenage started stay home and go school with own Amish. But I dont

know where or what deaf girl who was in Amish is doing now as

present. But sometimes we do see Amish go down the road, in the

building or horse with wagon is in parking lot becasue they go to few

stores like grocery store or something but I never seen before that

one amish went to into Chirocpractic or massage therapy center so it

was first time. But we all never know until Amish surprise everyone

or us about something that not know or not usually like that. But I

know Amish is not allowed to have let people take pictures or use

carema in their Amish community if someone is trip to see or do

something becasue of their own religious. Most of their Amish general

stores are closed every wednesday because of church and religouis day

of Wednesday so they only have general store open

monday,tues,Thursday and Fridays. I only know about more about our

own Amish community in our area. I am sure in these states may have

different for these Amish and their decisions with religious.

Colleen